Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.16] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Bluebird42]

Damn it I should have added more Eubicha cuck content to the bingo card.
But damn what a shitshow of an update. Can't wait until the only expansion we get for Quin is watching him have his turn with Eubicha after every dick in the setting has had its turn with her.

Not happening

 

[DuckwingQuack]

Not happening

What do you have in my mind for Quin?
I must admit I am very confused where his story is suppossed to go.
Or maybe I just don't remember him well enough.
I only recruited him once and then never after.

 

[Yaiba]

Seeing the updated Bust for Gytha. Remember Dragoon Gytha / Melara? They are still not available in the Wayfort Jail when that piece of content was added back in 0.6.0. Alissa became fuckable in 0.7.26 / October 18th 2024.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Seeing the updated Bust for Gytha. Remember Dragoon Gytha / Melara? They are still not available in the Wayfort Jail when that piece of content was added back in 0.6.0. Alissa became fuckable in 0.7.26 / October 18th 2024.

And Sigrune, along with Harpy Matron have been in the game since 2018, and neither of them have any content.
I thought they would add Harpy Matron as an actual npc when Windy Peaks released, but that whole area just sputtered out like a wet fart.
The lesson here is: Don't expect anything good to happen with this game, ever.

 

[Neighborsknowmyname]

The lesson here is: Don't expect anything good to happen with this game, ever

Like it or not, he spittin facts frfr

 

[Nadekai]

And Sigrune, along with Harpy Matron have been in the game since 2018, and neither of them have any content.
I thought they would add Harpy Matron as an actual npc when Windy Peaks released, but that whole area just sputtered out like a wet fart.
The lesson here is: Don't expect anything good to happen with this game, ever.

Sigrune...

What even happened to her

 

[Bluebird42]

What do you have in my mind for Quin?
I must admit I am very confused where his story is suppossed to go.
Or maybe I just don't remember him well enough.
I only recruited him once and then never after.

Stuff I've got for Quin:
-Menu rewrites [submitted]
-Base set rework + new set [accepted, waiting to be coded]
-Dad!Quin short expac [half done]
-Bunny buttslut expac [drafted]
-QuinQuest 1 and 2 [drafted]
-A bunch of new sets [drafted]
-Marriage expac [planned]

I'd like to go back and retroactively add lines for him in existing stuff, eventually as well.

And Sigrune, along with Harpy Matron have been in the game since 2018, and neither of them have any content.
I thought they would add Harpy Matron as an actual npc when Windy Peaks released, but that whole area just sputtered out like a wet fart.
The lesson here is: Don't expect anything good to happen with this game, ever.

Sigrune's alternate talk stuff is gated behind Tychris, but she was never planned to have any kind of sex content, so don't expect it.

Not sure what's going on with Shaedra cuz I'm not really into harpies so I don't pay much attention to them, but there may possibly be a Harpy Bathhouse dungeon for the Windy Peaks eventually.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Sigrune is literally a brick wall muscle girl who exists solely to protect us from the shitty twist about the seven. It's no wonder she's unsexable, shitty writing also kills my libido faster than buttchugging estrogen pills ever did.

Due to design, our only options to get past her are to grind or to wait for Tychris to become available so many years after her inclusion. Savin presents me with a two pronged road, one leads to hell and the other also to hell. But fool that he is he didn't realize I can simply walk off the fucking road by choosing to save edit in mirror stance.

But damn what a shitshow of an update. Can't wait until the only expansion we get for Quin is watching him have his turn with Eubicha after every dick in the setting has had its turn with her.

I'm genuinely stunned they haven't added a Eubicha futa option. And I'm very disappointed there's more cuck content than bdsm content for her.

And I don't think he's realized he retroactively recontextualizes the fact that Eubitch is now a character that's just around because she's a slut. Makes her look like shit because she was complacent in her ppl get mindfucked and enslaved as long she gets pony-bondage play. that muff is for anyone as long as she's getting fucked I guess...Cait but horse

I'm telling y'all that honse is up to some bullshit. Bet she's the real cult leader and Tollus is just her stand in so when the champ goes full Waco, she gets away completely unscathed.

I do get we're a repetitive bunch, but at least complain when it doesn't make sense.

I'm not sure if I'd call it futaslop this time. More just orcslop or theme month slop. that is futa adjacent. Given just how much futa is in the game, a lot of stuff can easily be misconstrued as futaslop.

Last time I brought up the roleplay cult from CoC1, but do you guys remember the sand witches? Like punny name aside they also played into different kinks with the extra set of genitals and breasts and had their dungeon. Plus they interacted with the tf system. I know CoC1 was still flawed but the differences in creativity and variation of fetishes is night and day between the first and second games. At least with CoC1 there was a good chance there was content you liked out there. CoC2 is just get futa'd or go home.

Gardeford can shake hands with Skow in making companion "sharing" content as he? wrote all of those scenes I think.

We on the cuck throne at this point.

 

[M0nte]

Stuff I've got for Quin:
-Menu rewrites [submitted]
-Base set rework + new set [accepted, waiting to be coded]
-Dad!Quin short expac [half done]
-Bunny buttslut expac [drafted]
-QuinQuest 1 and 2 [drafted]
-A bunch of new sets [drafted]
-Marriage expac [planned]

I'd like to go back and retroactively add lines for him in existing stuff, eventually as well.




Sigrune's alternate talk stuff is gated behind Tychris, but she was never planned to have any kind of sex content, so don't expect it.

Not sure what's going on with Shaedra cuz I'm not really into harpies so I don't pay much attention to them, but there may possibly be a Harpy Bathhouse dungeon for the Windy Peaks eventually.

Since we are on the topic of threesomes and what not, do you have any you yoursel would like to write for Quin? Bubble had plans for Cait and Atugia off top of my head, but a lot of Quin's current love flings are kept to champ just watching or just splitroasting.

 

[Bluebird42]

Since we are on the topic of threesomes and what not, do you have any you yoursel would like to write for Quin? Bubble had plans for Cait and Atugia off top of my head, but a lot of Quin's current love flings are kept to champ just watching or just splitroasting.

I'd like to write some, but those are up in the air atm while I figure out how I want to balance his anal content, cuz I can make it a champ only thing or I can decide to whore him out completely, but that feels like a bit of a cheap option outside of some potential loss scenes in combat encounters.

Quin won't get any sex stuff with Cait. That's already something I talked with Savin about and we both agreed that she's not really up for having anything to do sexually with a cultist, former or otherwise. That could also be because he loathes Quin, but that's not really something I can control.

 

[Jbuster]

but there may possibly be a Harpy Bathhouse dungeon for the Windy Peaks eventually.

They'll do Starhome II, I know it (I hope everything with the Quin project goes well)

We on the cuck throne at this point.

*beep beep bep bep bep beep bep bep bep beep*

And then everyone but Cait was fucking Eubicha, "you know?", said Cait while scratching her nose, "From the other side this is really uncomfortable, I'm glad I'm nothing like that"

It was unreal

 

[Welwick]

I don't know, these cuckold updates involving Eubicha one after the other make me believe they're lurking around here.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to irritate us; that kind of attitude is right up their alley.

 

[ButteCaller]

I don't know, these cuckold updates involving Eubicha one after the other make me believe they're lurking around here.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to irritate us; that kind of attitude is right up their alley.

As the self-proclaimed biggest Eubicha guy here (I'm proclaiming right now at this moment btw), I doubt it.
She's not that important of a character; more likely that she's simply been associated with that kind of content basically since her addition to the game that it's now her default state.
I'd crashout real bad if it was done on purpose though.

 

[Teshay]

He does it on purpose.

In case y'all haven't read his ethos, this was what he said about Kinu and Kiyoko respecting the champ's pronouns and about his writing in general.

Look, I get it: you want to write morally messy race and provoke. That’s fine. But provocation without consequence is just posturing. I actually can agree with him to a degree on how he writes his characters. With them being xenophobic, straight, not letting their scars get to them and not being particularly empowering. As a writer, power to him. Now before you guys get your pitchforks and roast my nuts on a grill, I'm just being fair. His real problem is that he doesn't write the champion actually being able to react or question these things. Instead, they are written as a simpering yes-man or someone who begrudgingly goes along with the flow. Which is weak pussy sauce, how the fuck are you going to write yourself as some intellectual psychic vampire who goes by his own rules but write the champ practically as a NPC? Why can't the champ call them out or point out flaws in their logic. Like how Nanako's head is up his ass, his security is shit, and his briliant idea of trying to 1v3 armed attackers was retarded. That depending on your champion, you could point out how he should be lucky the champ didn't kill him like he planned to kill them.

Not to mention there's no meaningful choices. You could’ve used clashes of opinion to create branching outcomes — exile, public trial, forced alliance, there was alot of shit you could have worked in that could have made becoming the Keros chosen worth a damn. Like it makes sense why the champ themselves wouldn't have much impact on kitsune society as a whole, but these guys are far removed from it and shouldn't be so self-sufficient considering they are basically invaders and rapist for chi. But no-one bothers them outside of a group of fox dudes worshiping a god from another universe that, surprise, surprise, THE CHAMP CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT. It's Boring and Lazy. Like, no one really gives a shit about the kitsune in game or out of it because they do nothing, and you can do nothing with them. You could have had the champ be able to help them with alot of their issues and have them change based on how the champ treats them and vice-versa. While the kero chosen champ would get way better treatment and could get involved with Kitsune politics and shit. Perhaps even find a way to get Kiyiko back as the head of her family. But nope. You half-assed it, the 8,000 words dude couldn't rack his brain to make a decent plot.


I feel a mix of pity and disgust when reading his shit. Trying to act like he's some grand bad mofo when he's just a splurg-lord who wrote a shitty fanfic in a game and wasted a lot of people's time, and double-down on his bad habits. I'd rather be someone who tries their best to write good content and have people like my work instead of them looking at my name and immediately losing interest. But that's just me.

Well, thankfully that at least the pronounce debacle got sorted not soon after. The way Kiyoko/Kinu case so violently went against rest of the game was him probably at his most stubborn.

Oh yeah. Savin wasn't going to let that shit slide if the coc 2 made an enemy out of the lgbt community, they would be pretty cooked.

Now I know this wasn't for me but lemme help you out with this:

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To spice up verb game a bit

It kind of reminds me of how Disco Elysium was developed. Except it worked. The writers got to show their unfiltered bias towards the stuff that they liked. But other writers within the group were allowed to write options or different outlooks for those scenes so the player could select what theu jived with. So you could have an option that totally agreed with that writer's extreme take. And you could have an option that destroys that take with a critique or an alternate understanding.
Tobs doesn't even want to entertain that, its his way and that's it, player agency and roleplay be damned.

Tobs: “My work challenges modern sensibilities!”
Reality: You wrote a glorified Imperial Japan fanfic where no one can disagree with you because the protagonist’s brain is set to ‘obedient sponge.’
Players: “Can I be a character now?”
Tobs: “No. That would ruin my artistic vision. Sit there and take it while your magically aged daughter fucks my self-inserts and tells me how much she haaaates you.”

I hate this fucking poser, dude. He reminds me of a teacher's pet kid from school who usually got his answers right and thought he was smarter than everyone else, but lost his shit when a lazy student decided to get a higher score than him for the lols. He was a real stubborn prick.

I need to reiterate that I have no problems with conflict, without it there's no way to move story or develop character.

I have issues that there's no way to resolve it, positively or negatively, like with the kitsune's racism, or whatever shit is going on up in the Rift. It just remains in an unsatisfying limbo.

It's just lazy and half-assed really. Like I don't think any future work they get on will become better because the problem isn't us 'haters' or having to make new content every month, it's them. They let shit fall off the rock and sink into the water. Not just in game but with bug reports, commisions, and who knows what else? It still grinds my gears how there's no satifisfaying corruption in the sequel to CORRUPTION of champions.

 

[Teshay]

0.8.12 Patch Notes:

Ylvid has a new repeat scene wherein you can fuck Arona into her. (May result in one or more pregnant orcs)
Submissive Arona has a new scene wherein you really treasure her feminine side and work that pussy. (by Shovelry)

YESSSSSS FUCKYEAH MORE OF MY GIRL ARONA PLAPPING THOSE ORC CHEEKS INTO SOME OTHER ORC CHEEKS I SEE THIS AS A ABSOLUTE WIN.

• Eubicha has a new scene for letting Arona take a crack at that marepussy. (by Gardeford)

Is Eubicha taking lessons from cait or something? I'd rather my storage pussy be more exclussive to me.

Ragnhild has a new nursing scene. (OH?!) By Tobs (...Oh...)

• The Orc Twins from Snowcat Quest have a new pair of scenes: either they worship your cock, or you worship theirs. (by Skow)

Ngl I don't not remember orc twins, I'm not sure I even did the quest everything is so forgettable. But making some strong ladies/men worship my dick is a win.

I figured as much, but it's nice to have confirmation as to how petty he is. He acts like his writing has some greater depth and complexity to it, but in reality he is just writing pretty standard lore for a game. None of it is terribly complex either, as seen in his writing that you quoted. Ragnild hates slavery, not because of any moral or ethical reasons, but because she believes it weakens the Kervus. He forgot to expound on that in any meaningful way, such as how it would actually weaken the Kervus, or anything that would at least give her real characterization by informing as to why she believes the things she does. The main example is that the Kitsune are all xenophobic, militaristic, monarchical, etc. Just like Japan during the Feudal and Imperial eras, which doesn't add any depth to it. It all just comes off as someone taking an Eastern Civ class and never being able to shut up about it.

Him being a petty prick really isn't even my greatest issue with him because multiple core members of SavCo are petty, and they can be total pricks. My biggest problem with him is that he's just so underwhelming and boring as a writer. He apparently forgot that you have to make the porn at least somewhat exciting in a porn game. I would rather install Gentoo Linux and compile literally everything that I use from source than read his scenes because then something would be getting done. I tried to get something out of his scenes once, but it was like trying to masturbate to the Vietnam War Memorial.

ChatGPT does a better job at writing sex scenes then he does. Also don't ask.

They'll give her this personality

Sex must be world-changing. Have you seen the dumptruck on this bbw,I'd be like scotsman too. He plapped that like no tommorrow with how many children she popped out. DAMN! They better not give her that personality or she'll out number my other spawn 10 to 2.

Yes. But nobody cares about Azzy after she was ruined by SKoW's cuck fetish.

I think itwould be funny if azzy or Agni became the john cena of this thread. Like anytime someone mentioned them people would rely with "WHO?!" because of how forgettable they are.

you guys just call everything you don't like futaslop huh?

Oh it's not futaslop this patch, nice! *looks inside*

*It's futaslop*
(i'm joking but seeing the floping futa dicks under your name made me want to mess with you some because it's CLEAR what you are into and that's like a large amount of content this game produces)

So is it just me or do the comments on the official release pages seem to be getting progressively more negative lately? I saw one calling it cucktober (lol), another asking to dedick Arona, and another pointing out they added a scene for a one off encounter people have already done apparently.

I just checked and they are like two of them and one asking for Sub Arona to fuck them with her dick (which is just...why? I'm all for more scenes with sub arona, but not bottoming for her. I fear they may ruin her with some forced dick musk shit so I want to shut that idea down immediately.)

 

[claralover]

you guys asked for it, and here it is!
Kiyoko, now with extra meat

 

[M0nte]

I'd like to write some, but those are up in the air atm while I figure out how I want to balance his anal content, cuz I can make it a champ only thing or I can decide to whore him out completely, but that feels like a bit of a cheap option outside of some potential loss scenes in combat encounters.

To me, it all depends on where on the scale of sluttiness/devotion you want Quin to be at, and if you want to still keep his ability to get others pregnant. Personally, while I do love the idea of him being Champ's personal butt slut and all that, there is something to be said about how CoC2 puts being on top (being the pitcher) on a pedestal compared to being the bottom.

It happens with Brint, it happens with Arona, it happens with a lot of bedicked NPCs here and in TiTS -- they are more than happy to top anyone they see fit, but Champ, oh the Champ, is the only one that gets to turn the tables on them. While on one hand it does add to a sense that they value you above all other sexual partners, on the other hand it does paint you bottoming to them as a lesser deal, if only indirectly.

Let's say you make Quin, as he is currently, our personal buttslut. Sure, it does add a sense of exclusivity/devotion/love that he currently lacks, but on the other hand, if you are not into topping men and/or prefer to bottom to the bunny boy, it does make his sudden stance on how his bum is for our pleasure only kind of jarring. He is more then happy to dick down Rune, Elthara and Salwah. Latter two he can even get pregnant without much fuss or fanfare. Like, sure, preferences and all that, but it does not bode well in my eyes for a guy to be less willing to bottom to me than to sow his seed all willy-nilly.

Of course, what I wrote is a hypothethical scenario where you write the buttslut expansion into the present Quin. And as I prefaced above, it just depends on how much of a playboy you want him to be.

Though, of course, there are other gests of love he could showcase. Passion is not only expressed through sex. This whole speal is just me giving my view on things. About the patterns I noticed throughout the game.

 

[Bluebird42]

I appreciate your viewpoint! I'd like more input into what people would be interested in regarding his buttstuff, since my interest in it extends to pegging him. what would people be interested in seeing, regarding Quin bottoming content?

 

[Bluebird42]

you guys asked for it, and here it is! View attachment 5331136
Kiyoko, now with extra meat

I loathe Kiyoko, but Moira arts are always welcome

 

[Stassonil]

I appreciate your viewpoint! I'd like more input into what people would be interested in regarding his buttstuff, since my interest in it extends to pegging him. what would people be interested in seeing, regarding Quin bottoming content?

Anal stuff is fun and all, but can we shut his yapping mouth with a cock, balls deep? Good ol’ deepthroat until he gags? Or, if we push him deep enough into the subby rabbit hole, a cleanup blowjob after an intense session of drilling his ass? Y’know, as a symbol of his gratitude to the Champ?