Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.16] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[gembunny]

And no we're not bringing up the deleted bad end.

Welp, you mentioning it makes me wonder what horrors got nuked somehow given what has been allowed. Spill. :U

 

[JJJetPlane6644]

I would just like to remind you all that if you lose to the foxes you get turned into a bimbo kitsune and one of the bad endings is that you become Nakano's wife.

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The Miko and Mai "Slut Sister" Isn't much better. Basically the same but you spend your days getting fucked by Mai's magicock instead. And no we're not bringing up the deleted bad end.

What's the deleted bad end and why was it deleted?

 

[GS21]

Welp, you mentioning it makes me wonder what horrors got nuked somehow given what has been allowed. Spill. :U

What's the deleted bad end and why was it deleted?

Short of it is Nakano rapes Brienne in front of you before beheading you. Oh yeah and Tobs made sure to add variants for whether she's pregnant or not (without wsan's permission apparently).
If you look hard enough you can probably find the full thing on the thread.
It happens in another instance except this time with the Undermountain Hobgoblins, you can read the full thing here:

Yeah, content warning on this one.

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For real though, who the fuck throws the phrase "the petals of her womanly flower" into the middle of a gang rape? That's just hilariously bad.

Tobs is genuinely sick in the head. Just when you think he can't sink lower, he already has.

 

[gembunny]

Short of it is Nakano rapes Brienne in front of you before beheading you. Oh yeah and Tobs made sure to add variants for whether she's pregnant or not (without wsan's permission apparently).
If you look hard enough you can probably find the full thing on the thread.
It happens in another instance except this time with the Undermountain Hobgoblins, you can read the full thing here:


Tobs is genuinely sick in the head. Just when you think he can't sink lower, he already has.

Bruh what's with Tob's obsession with raping your mino companion.

Wait... so apparently this general idea was REUSED? For a later encounter's loss sequence? And it got through the SECOND TIME bc ig the beheading you part was removed??? I heard about the hobgoblin discourse but never saw the actual scene bc I had lost interest in the game at that point to play that far.

Is Savin daft bc how did this get past his weird standards of what is/isn't allowed a second time?
Honestly I don't even wanna know how often Tobs has written hard rape stuff now. Apparently he's had multiple NTR shit rejected (but not this apparently bc Savin accepted it without Wsan even knowing, I did go and look for that story further back in the thread, messed up), so like... dude, why hate your own fanbase that much to keep trying to actively upset people you're writing for. Not even actual writers do that.

 

[JJJetPlane6644]

Short of it is Nakano rapes Brienne in front of you before beheading you. Oh yeah and Tobs made sure to add variants for whether she's pregnant or not (without wsan's permission apparently).
If you look hard enough you can probably find the full thing on the thread.
It happens in another instance except this time with the Undermountain Hobgoblins, you can read the full thing here:


Tobs is genuinely sick in the head. Just when you think he can't sink lower, he already has.

Um pardon but what the actual fuck

Like not pearl clutching but I would NEVER have expected shit that dark from a game like that, isn't it supposed to be light hearted all-things-considered?

 

[gembunny]

Um pardon but what the actual fuck

Like not pearl clutching but I would NEVER have expected shit that dark from a game like that, isn't it supposed to be light hearted all-things-considered?

Relatively, what with the slavery and whatnot that happens in-universe. But that is still very tame in how it's handled in tone compared to... yeah.

 

[JJJetPlane6644]

Relatively, what with the slavery and whatnot that happens in-universe. But that is still very tame in how it's handled in tone compared to... yeah.

Like, WHAT I just have so much whiplash now, like yeah with TiTS they had the ant civilizations and the "trench wives" stuff and indentured servitude with brothels, but that shit sounds like from a COMPLETELY different game!

Like what you like, but wtf Tobs... read your audience brosky!

 

[gembunny]

Like, WHAT I just have so much whiplash now, like yeah with TiTS they had the ant civilizations and the "trench wives" stuff and indentured servitude with brothels, but that shit sounds like from a COMPLETELY different game!

Like what you like, but wtf Tobs... read your audience brosky!

What's wild is if this was anyone else (as in anyone else other than Savco manning the joint) and any other game he'd probably be fired for actively trying to drive away fans with this shit. Infact if it was anyone else but Tobs I feel it wouldn't be allowed to past the first rejection and they'd get kicked compared to him.
Even in FoE Tobs couldn't do much to this extent bc he was on a much tighter leash there, which you kinda need to enforce when you're with such people who get off to antagonizing your audience and revenue.

A sane boss wouldn't accept that stuff in any level and would snipped the bud before it grew further, but ig when you have two guys who get a boner out of upsetting people, it's two peas in a rotted pod.

 

[GS21]

Bruh what's with Tob's obsession with raping your mino companion.

Wait... so apparently this general idea was REUSED? For a later encounter's loss sequence? And it got through the SECOND TIME bc ig the beheading you part was removed??? I heard about the hobgoblin discourse but never saw the actual scene bc I had lost interest in the game at that point to play that far.

Is Savin daft bc how did this get past his weird standards of what is/isn't allowed a second time?
Honestly I don't even wanna know how often Tobs has written hard rape stuff now. Apparently he's had multiple NTR shit rejected (but not this apparently bc Savin accepted it without Wsan even knowing, I did go and look for that story further back in the thread, messed up), so like... dude, why hate your own fanbase that much to keep trying to actively upset people you're writing for. Not even actual writers do that.

I don't know the actual timeline but I think they got in and were found out later or something (Because who the fuck loses to the hobgoblins?)
The word is that Tobs was jealous of Brienne's success (Since she didn't come with the kinu baggage) so he went out of his way to write that loss scene explicitly for her (when there's a bunch of other companions and he could have just used the companion parser)
There's a lot of speculation to it but it's always been crystal clear that Tobs hates the players and Savin simply does not care. For all it's worth to him it's more cuck content which he absolutely loves and can't get enough of. He does not have to care either, since he's getting funded either way.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

So what you're saying is, we're prepping for the great Vulpine-Neko war.

The true Battle of the Mid.

We find out Cait is actually unleashing the salt mine from the Fen forums in the form of a fucking invasion comparable to Mordor coming down on you. Savin has a Sauron-like self insert and he's here to destroy the thing he created because he actually fucking hates this game and everyone involved with it. Whatever ambitions he had making this game has completely dried up by now and he loathes the community that formed around it.

Or Savin just can't write for shit. I don't know, I think the Mordor style crash out sounds kinda cool.

That's his Noble Phantasm, Anger of the Discord Server. Used to be Anger of the Forum, but that didn't have the manpower to properly source it.

You might just be on to something. Idk if "nextgame" is just thrown around the discord jokingly since he mentions it from time to time (as if he's already sick of the current one or something), or people are genuinely looking forward to that... which is kind of a sobering thought considering the state of things.

I think it's a little bit of both. Their captive audience will like whatever they spew out, so might as well start making plans for a third game. And talking about that means having to talk less about CoC2...

Can already imagine what kind of shitshow that will be. Future looking bright as always.

I genuinely couldn't care less. The key players would need to take themselves very unseriously to deliver anything I'd find remotely pleasant. And given the likelihood of it featuring Savin and Tobs, I find it unlikely to happen.

And you don't even get the incentive to make your own character there.

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You all need to learn from the real pro of monster fucking registration. Chubs, may you do us a solid and show us how it is?

Would u really comeback for more Savin cucketry? I'm not.

Gotta say I'm not keen on traincrashes myself.

Considering how many zombie games survive through furry blood sacrifices and patreon's dark arts, I would say years but who knows?, maybe a visual novel would make them trim the dullest parts of their writing and with Moria's art, it could work, but then again that's betting that none of them over indulge in whatever makes them horny

Sole positive of a CoC3 for a non-Savco coded crowd is Moira getting more work. She deserves better stuff, but work is work.

With the companion mod I feel like fights quickly become worthless side pieces when you just roflstomp everyone in 1 or 2 turns because you decided, "hey, we can do the numbers thing too."

Also the more I play with Kiyoko, the more venom I spit from what will happen at the end.

Well, yeah. The system was made with a limited party in mind, specifically to not let you curbstomp battles, even more so characters like Savin's wittle futa demon OC.

So of course, having more companions in battle makes it easier. Ever seen team MMA? Same principles.

We really need to mod in a Doomguy class. Stupidly high attack and speed, but a special trait where demons do fuck all to you, and beating up demons actually heals you, making you an impossible mountain to scale.

I insist we get a grappler class. I'd gladly write attacks and techniques for that if necessary.

Moira's art depicts futa with god-tier tuck game.

FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT, LIKE HOLY SHIT BRO—

Moira is this game's equivalent to Messi. And not MLS Messi, prime Messi. Sucks the rest of the team is Millwall.

She can only carry Savco drivel so far... and I imagine the voluntary writers don't get to have anything from her unless they pay out of pocket.

Bruh what's with Tob's obsession with raping your mino companion.

Wait... so apparently this general idea was REUSED? For a later encounter's loss sequence? And it got through the SECOND TIME bc ig the beheading you part was removed??? I heard about the hobgoblin discourse but never saw the actual scene bc I had lost interest in the game at that point to play that far.

Is Savin daft bc how did this get past his weird standards of what is/isn't allowed a second time?
Honestly I don't even wanna know how often Tobs has written hard rape stuff now. Apparently he's had multiple NTR shit rejected (but not this apparently bc Savin accepted it without Wsan even knowing, I did go and look for that story further back in the thread, messed up), so like... dude, why hate your own fanbase that much to keep trying to actively upset people you're writing for. Not even actual writers do that.

I'd argue it's not so much a thing for rape, but a thing for his own OC having his way. Not exactly the first one to want to do that, either.

I don't know if it was reused, but I would find it funny and rather in-character of Savin to do so. "It did create drama and all, but... I mean, it's here already, just file off names and we're good to go~"

 

[GS21]

I don't know if it was reused, but I would find it funny and rather in-character of Savin to do so. "It did create drama and all, but... I mean, it's here already, just file off names and we're good to go~"

The hobgoblin scene is still in the game I think, but the Nakano one was removed to just have him behead you instead of raping your wife in front of you and claiming her for himself afterwards in true imperial Japanese war crime fashion.
Edit: It's been "dummied out"

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

I guess Tobs was abusing his previous position in the review process to get his stuff through before the hobgoblin. He should've been kicked off of it the first time.

which you kinda need to enforce when you're with such people who get off to antagonizing your audience and revenue.

The sad part is the main revenue source is either unaware of all this or doesn't care. Savin probably won't change since he has no reason to. He's made his stance on us clear and there's no genuine critique to be had on the fenforums or the discord.

That's his Noble Phantasm, Anger of the Discord Server. Used to be Anger of the Forum, but that didn't have the manpower to properly source it.

Is it stronger than Wsan's Domain Expansion, Horsecock Prison Mines?

And you don't even get the incentive to make your own character there.

You mean you don't wanna play as the Ryn/Cait blorbo fusion?

Ever seen team MMA? Same principles.

Tag team boxing would be cool.

Moira is this game's equivalent to Messi. And not MLS Messi, prime Messi. Sucks the rest of the team is Millwall.

She can only carry Savco drivel so far... and I imagine the voluntary writers don't get to have anything from her unless they pay out of pocket.

Who is Messi?
I maintain that Moira is one of the biggest reasons this game is surviving. Art is subjective but I love her art.

(Because who the fuck loses to the hobgoblins?)

Me. But only because I was hoping the loss scene would have someone say hobgoblin deez nuts.

 

[gembunny]

The hobgoblin scene is still in the game I think, but the Nakano one was removed to just have him behead you instead of raping your wife in front of you and claiming her for himself afterwards in true imperial Japanese war crime fashion.
Edit: It's been "dummied out"

The hobgoblins scene was removed too iirc, surprisingly, bc of the backlash it got everywhere in that community.

I'm surprised they even bothered, but I did hear Wsan when that happened was thinking of quitting, which Savin obviously can't have one of his cash cow writers leave. Wsan (unfortunately) didn't leave in the end, honestly I feel it's not worth it to stay under a boss and his favorite pet weeaboo who have proven to abuse and antagonize their own crowd.

 

[Yeppers34]

Short of it is Nakano rapes Brienne in front of you before beheading you. Oh yeah and Tobs made sure to add variants for whether she's pregnant or not (without wsan's permission apparently).
If you look hard enough you can probably find the full thing on the thread.
It happens in another instance except this time with the Undermountain Hobgoblins, you can read the full thing here:


Tobs is genuinely sick in the head. Just when you think he can't sink lower, he already has.

Ok I've heard and read the hobgoblin scene but I ain't never heard of nanako raping Brienne that's a new one for me.

 

[GS21]

Ok I've heard and read the hobgoblin scene but I ain't never heard of nanako raping Brienne that's a new one for me.

It could very well be me misremembering and mixing it up with the hobgoblin scene to be honest, but I know that it's been mentioned a while back if you can be bothered to look for it. Thing is it wouldn't be entirely out of character for Tobs to write something like that, considering the whole "non-consensual" gangrape and Samurai Wife bad end.

 

[GS21]

The sad part is the main revenue source is either unaware of all this or doesn't care. Savin probably won't change since he has no reason to. He's made his stance on us clear and there's no genuine critique to be had on the fenforums or the discord.

The whole thing was sorted out was because people were constantly complaining about this incident, even if it wasn't removed initially with Wsan stating "the damage is done" and just moving on, but people kept on bringing up the topic which led to its eventual removal.
Granted it was purely the Brienne crowd making noise, considering the rest of the community adopts whatever stance Savin has at the time, which in this case was nonchalant dismissal, as he's made it very clear that 'Brienne is dead to him' because Wsan doesn't want her to be shared with other NPCs or something. Again a lot of it is speculation but that won't change the fact that there were people actively advocating for the rape scene to be kept in just because of Savin's dismissive stance on the topic.

Who is Messi?

All 0 football fans in chat are gasping in shock right now at your blatant ignorance.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

I guess Tobs was abusing his previous position in the review process to get his stuff through before the hobgoblin. He should've been kicked off of it the first time.

The sad part is the main revenue source is either unaware of all this or doesn't care. Savin probably won't change since he has no reason to. He's made his stance on us clear and there's no genuine critique to be had on the fenforums or the discord.

Is it stronger than Wsan's Domain Expansion, Horsecock Prison Mines?

You mean you don't wanna play as the Ryn/Cait blorbo fusion?

Tag team boxing would be cool.

Who is Messi?
I maintain that Moira is one of the biggest reasons this game is surviving. Art is subjective but I love her art.

Messi is an Argentinian footballer, internationally known for being very good at the sport and generally not bringing much of a fuss in the process. So... you know, Moira.

Tag Team boxing is iffy, hard to tag in and tag out during a fight. Plus, it suffers from the obvious fault of tag combat sports, where they only end when one side is totally out and not like, say, Tekken Tag.

Needless to say, when one side is one man down, they're more likely to get wiped out so it loses interest right there.

The Horsecock Prison Mines domain expansion's only stronger against those that are horrified of horsecock, so it's less useful than Anger of the Discord Server. Those who are angry over them get a boost of Berserker Strength, for example.

Highest ranked one of the game is either Cait's Unlimited Semen Works or Tobs' N I H Ō N - Weebuna Eilish.

The whole thing was sorted out was because people were constantly complaining about this incident, even if it wasn't removed initially with Wsan stating "the damage is done" and just moving on, but people kept on bringing up the topic which led to its eventual removal.
Granted it was purely the Brienne crowd making noise, considering the rest of the community adopts whatever stance Savin has at the time, which in this case was nonchalant dismissal, as he's made it very clear that 'Brienne is dead to him' because Wsan doesn't want her to be shared with other NPCs or something. Again a lot of it is speculation but that won't change the fact that there were people actively advocating for the rape scene to be kept in just because of Savin's dismissive stance on the topic.

All 0 football fans in chat are gasping in shock right now at your blatant ignorance.

You know, thinking about that makes me feel rather surprised Tobs hasn't literally just gone and got himself yeeted from the project. Disdain for the audience, disdain for a coworker, wouldn't be surprised if he somehow pisses off Savin over some stupid shit.

For the record, we currently have one football fan and that's me... and I'm not shocked. The mods gave us grief over talking about PSG anyway.

 

[Chris20]

An elf without a dick, i could never imagine i would live to see this

 

[JJJetPlane6644]

The hobgoblin scene is still in the game I think, but the Nakano one was removed to just have him behead you instead of raping your wife in front of you and claiming her for himself afterwards in true imperial Japanese war crime fashion.
Edit: It's been "dummied out"

What's this I keep hearing about Sevin or Tobs WWII Japanese stuff? I like and quite admire Japan myself, but take it they're the stereotypical foreigner weebs who idolize Japan no matter what or the like? What's the context here?

 

[JJJetPlane6644]

What's wild is if this was anyone else (as in anyone else other than Savco manning the joint) and any other game he'd probably be fired for actively trying to drive away fans with this shit. Infact if it was anyone else but Tobs I feel it wouldn't be allowed to past the first rejection and they'd get kicked compared to him.
Even in FoE Tobs couldn't do much to this extent bc he was on a much tighter leash there, which you kinda need to enforce when you're with such people who get off to antagonizing your audience and revenue.

A sane boss wouldn't accept that stuff in any level and would snipped the bud before it grew further, but ig when you have two guys who get a boner out of upsetting people, it's two peas in a rotted pod.

What's FoE again? And yeah remind me if I'm mixing up stuff, but didn't others who try to do similar shit prompty kicked out of the community? Like this whole thing gives me "main character syndrome." Is he doing it on purpose just to be shocking?