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Meatshield236

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I don't know about any f95 folks going to the official since I'm pretty sure most if not all are banned already.
Me included. :KEK:
I'm not banned, but that's just cause I don't care enough to post elsewhere. I'm not that dedicated.

As for why it seems like everyone involved is a bit of a basket case... well, let's be frank here: CoC 2 is a bit of a niche game. It's a porn game (already a niche) with furries and futa galore (so more niche), and it's text-based. So the kind of people who would be willing to work on it is already small, and a lot of those would be the "OC sexy furry donut steel" sort of people. Throw in the the fact that the lead dev can't lead for shit, and you have a recipe for an asylum run by the inmates.
 
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So, I actually agree with Skandranon, with regards to this censorship debate. Seems like the community here (and possibly 4chan), are slightly hyper-aware of any censorship being perpetrated on the official forums.
This might have been the case in the past, but recently it seems like the developers are more inclined to ridicule one for criticism (constructive criticism or not), and rile up the community to dunk on the one who supplied said critique, or just laugh at them - instead of outright removing the post.
Seems like they've more so given up on the official forums (if the bug reports are anything to go by, lol) in favor of the discord instead, as it appears to be an environment that is easier for discussions about the game, and possibly less negative.
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TheVegnar

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Is he finally realising that his content is 100% bs? LOL hard to notice when you bann anyone who says it isnt.
 
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Off topic some sorry, but would someone mind giving me cliff notes or pointing to a link which shows how to give stuff the spoiler drop down tab thingy? I have free time and would like to kinda collect "interdasting" comments for posterity or whatever from skimming through the devs threads but I don't want to flood or overtake anything
 

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Further insight, Undertales was made with 50K. Made by one person. Now I know there is not as much writing in Undertales, but Toby Fox did all of the music, writing and programing himself. I think only two characters were designed by Temmie. It was the Spider chick and Temmie village. Finished development in roughly 2-3 years (32months if you want to be exact). So, what is the excuse for this game, that is mostly dialogue focused, has multiple writers and artist. Plus the commission writers. Programmers. And even if you low-ball the amount of money( lets say they only got 100k) they are still making a game with about 2x the budget of undertales. (This is also ignoring the donations they get from streams and steam sales.) If they really got 200k from their gofund me that's 4x. There is no excuse for this game being in the state that it is. This goes beyond incompetence and laziness.

Skull Girls- was made for 200k. 8 hand drawn sprites, with hand drawn animation, music and fully voiced. Miss information on my part.
The excuse is Patreon. It incentivizes long development times, which is why so many of these games never finish development. Even CoC1 technically was never finished, Fenoxo just tacked on an 'ending' and called it done (it wasn't). These devs think that 'if I finish the game the money will stop coming in' so they drag the development out as long as humanly possible. What they don't understand is that you can finish a story and still keep releasing content lol...
 

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I really wish I didn't read that. One of the most self-aggrandizing insufferable dipshits I've seen, and that's saying something.

I'm actually kind of disgusted someone like this is allowed to write for ANY project, let alone this one. He seems like a legitimately awful human being, does he get like this anytime someone has a slightly negative response to anything he does? I am so glad I have the emotional intelligence and maturity to not act like this, it's really embarrassing for him honestly. He seems stuck in his edgy teenager years where he has to act like he doesn't care what people say by telling them how much he doesn't care. It's just sad to look at, man. Wonder what life circumstances lead to someone acting like such a spoiled brat. And he's doing this while contributing to the project on THEIR public forum. Imagine how quickly any actual company would fire him for acting like this to potential customers.

Also really funny how he's had plans for Leofric for 4 fucking years and he still hasn't done anything with the character. And the classic "this content(femhirrud) was projected to come out a year ago". Makes me feel better about my own writing speed and I don't even fucking write for a project.
 
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Shiro15

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If you're wondering why they don't react to the wishes of their fanbase, take a look at their earnings

and notice it's been rising fairly steadily since its inception, not even counting its two other revenue streams.

The people paying them seem to like what they're doing. Their fan reactions that you speak of are largely positive.

Why change?
Now based off what I've seen of their behavior it seems like they've actively done everything in their power to push away people who would be willing to give them good faith criticism. Either by mocking or censoring critics. (They may have changed now, but the damage is more less already done) So, only the yes men are left or are willing to talk to them. Not only that but the community seems to largely be fractured and spread across 5 different forums (here, 4chan, official forum, discord, and steam) Go to the official forums, steam reviews, and discord and it'll seem like Kiyoko is the most popular character. Ask the 10 or so people who regularly comment here and 4chan Brienne is the most popular. (I would have to go digging, but I remember someone posting that Brienne was voted most popular on 4chan polls with Kiyoko coming in second. Which further validates that Kiyoko and Tobs content popularity) Go to Steams forums and it seems Ethryn is the most popular. Or you can listen to the 10 dollars polls (when most patrons on Savins Patreon are only paying 4.90, I find it highly unlikely Bubs is getting regular 10 dollar patron. So, even in paid polls its not clear how the majority feel about this content.)

Now even if what I'm implying is true, one cannot ignore the patreon. Its holding strong and there making more money than most people on patreon. 125th on all of Patreon and 11th in their particular genre. No denying the series is successful. So,

Well, there have been multiple projects that have made money left and right. Star Wars the Last Jedi, Skyrim, Twilight series and even 50 Shades of grey. No denying these series made a lot of money and are finical success. And if its only about getting money then they should absolutely keep doing what they are doing.


But if they want do something more. Something that has value beyond a dollar sign. I think they should seek out criticism and be willing lesson to people. Now don't take this as me saying they should self sabotage. Nor do think the project should become content-by-committee. Far to often in the effort appease everyone games will include content with no real purpose other than its popular or to scrape up some minority fan-base, which ironically leads to it appealing to no one and the game being bloated. I don't want that (the game is already bloated enough with all the one off characters imo) But, part of being an artist/entertainer requires that one have some ability to be introspective. It requires one to be able to sincerely consider both praise and criticism without letting their ego get in the way. This especially important to project leads. But this is what I would say to someone who is trying to create something that isn't just about the money. If it just about the money for them I'd tell them should abandon fetish porn games. They should consider working/investing in Star Wars, Marvel, Fortnite or Call of Duty, become a fucking V-tuber with big ol anime titties because that's where the real money is at. There are alterntive careers they can choose that are far eaiser and offer a bigger payday.

But hey what do I know. The only time I've seen $30,000 dollar was when it came time to pay off my student tuition, and I'm regularly wrong. So, fuck my opinion, right?
 
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Huh...
Hey Quinn, remember what I said about not being bothered enough to use a save editor on you?
Sorry man it's time to go, I'm sure those cultists will take care of you.

Real shame, I had hoped that when they started giving Quinn new content he would finally develop into a decent companion character. But if this is what his creator wants for him, and said creator's attitude, then it's time to take him behind the woodshed where I buried Kiyoko and Cait.
 

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Hello again.I've cleared all of Old Forest post-Alraune except for picking up the orb(still hesitant with the Foxes content).
Is exploring all the other areas before beating Alraune fine or is the natural progression to beat Alraune and get Etheryn(which already seems like my favourite kind of character).
 
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Hello again.I've cleared all of Old Forest post-Alraune except for picking up the orb(still hesitant with the Foxes content).
Is exploring all the other areas before beating Alraune fine or is the natural progression to beat Alraune and get Etheryn(which already seems like my favourite kind of character).
There's little point exploring save for filling out the map. There are very few locations on each map and you can see them all when following the main path to the next objective. I think the only exceptions to this are for some abandoned content in the mountain region.
Otherwise the game directs you towards all the content, so only explore if you want to read the tile descriptions.
If your concern is power gaming, then don't worry, the game's difficulty oscillates between too easy and RNG hard at the end. Just play at your pace and remember to save before entering any "dungeon" area where it tells you you can't turn back in case you need to grind/buy items/swap companions.
 

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As someone who is choking on sand, in the desert that is the lack of male characters with meaningful content...idk whether to laugh or cry at this (though he said this back in 2018).

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This one confuses me because it becomes sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you're known as the guy who writes egotistical and/or hypersexual male chars who may fuck the PC but are REALLY interested in fucking other npcs, and your next big Quin update is going to be about him breeding an npc so we can get off on just watching the ~steamy sex~, then why on earth would people ever commission you to do otherwise. I would assume it's content he's not really into writing. It would make more sense for people to throw money/support behind someone who has already written good male npc on pc content.
 

destroyerofassholes

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This guy gets paid to write professionally. I just... I can't.

It's an incredible feedback loop where he is an asshole and people don't like him and he becomes more of an asshole because people don't like him and that's our fault apparently.

Also almost all of the content he writes is just for himself to see in the game. Nobody gives a shit about his companion or his characters...which pisses him off even more 'cuz people won't pay him to make new stuff.
 
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destroyerofassholes

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Huh...
Hey Quinn, remember what I said about not being bothered enough to use a save editor on you?
Sorry man it's time to go, I'm sure those cultists will take care of you.

Real shame, I had hoped that when they started giving Quinn new content he would finally develop into a decent companion character. But if this is what his creator wants for him, and said creator's attitude, then it's time to take him behind the woodshed where I buried Kiyoko and Cait.
Y'know, I'm actually legitimately impressed that Bubblelord of all people allows you to kill his companion albeit indirectly.

I'd expect a person of his toxicity and delusions of grandeur to straight up force his incredible character on you.
 
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