G3b

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So much insulting of how much of this game has so much to give, yet completely outright removed one of the companions just so that they have less of a burden. It's even more insulting how they didn't even edit the damn wiki (Berwyn is still a companion even though they outright axed him to the ground). Almost like they have prioritized their Original Characters and shitting on everyone who (joking or not/criticism or not) is even more than a bad look for them in the long run. But the money keeps on pouring am I right?
 
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So much insulting of how much of this game has so much to give, yet completely outright removed one of the companions just so that they have less of a burden. It's even more insulting how they didn't even edit the damn wiki (Berwyn is still a companion even though they outright axed him to the ground). Almost like they have prioritized their Original Characters and shitting on everyone who (joking or not/criticism or not) is even more than a bad look for them in the long run. But the money keeps on pouring am I right?
Nobody should use the wiki, at all, better off just asking others. They've got like one volunteer in charge of the whole thing, forget Berwyn dude they haven't even added the barbers in hawkethorne existing yet. I think theyve successfully got up to around gweyrs final quest (update wise). It's handy solving the dumb orb color quests easy and the gibberish door in the underwater temple but that's about it.
 
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Ok I've been playing this game for the longest time and my curiosity has reached a point where i just gotta ask. Why are there nude Pics for characters who don't have a sex scenes or the transformations available yet? I ain't complaining i just wanna know. I mean i exhausted every dialogue for Astraea and all i got was a "I'll let you pet my trouser snake when you reach my city in, optimistically, 2-3years; but there it is in the 'Fulls' folder. Women like Calise get a Futa pic but I can't hand over a blue egg in-game. Anyone got an answer or did i just not get to see cuz i always play as a Trap Catboy with foot long dong?
 

MoneyMan181

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Honestly easiest thing would be to make liaden bi but that'd probably be a political minefield.
The only reason I can even think that she isn't bi is just to make the PC feel weird about the LiadenxAzzy thing. Like even in a situation where Azzy doesn't just ignore the champ, it would still be very weird to try and have harmony because 2/3 people can't even sex each other. There is objectively 0 reason she should be a lesbian instead of bi. It doesn't add to her character even slightly, she's a very minor character in the first place, and it can only bring down the content she has with Azzy. I'm almost positive it's just a case of the writer wanting to see the two characters having sex without giving a fuck about the player. Then again, a lot of content doesn't care about the player so it's not exactly out of place.
Ok I've been playing this game for the longest time and my curiosity has reached a point where i just gotta ask. Why are there nude Pics for characters who don't have a sex scenes or the transformations available yet? I ain't complaining i just wanna know. I mean i exhausted every dialogue for Astraea and all i got was a "I'll let you pet my trouser snake when you reach my city in, optimistically, 2-3years; but there it is in the 'Fulls' folder. Women like Calise get a Futa pic but I can't hand over a blue egg in-game. Anyone got an answer or did i just not get to see cuz i always play as a Trap Catboy with foot long dong?
Lemme answer your question with another question: If the artwork is already made, why wouldn't they just put it in the files earlier rather than later? It makes 0 difference to the player and just saves them time later.
 
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The only reason I can even think that she isn't bi is just to make the PC feel weird about the LiadenxAzzy thing. Like even in a situation where Azzy doesn't just ignore the champ, it would still be very weird to try and have harmony because 2/3 people can't even sex each other. There is objectively 0 reason she should be a lesbian instead of bi. It doesn't add to her character even slightly, she's a very minor character in the first place, and it can only bring down the content she has with Azzy. I'm almost positive it's just a case of the writer wanting to see the two characters having sex without giving a fuck about the player. Then again, a lot of content doesn't care about the player so it's not exactly out of place.

Lemme answer your question with another question: If the artwork is already made, why wouldn't they just put it in the files earlier rather than later? It makes 0 difference to the player and just saves them time later.
That is my question in a different form, again just curiosity, but why? Yes i know it is a time saver; but They already made the pic and then leave the scene on the burner for a long time. I mean NPCs like Lumia only show up at winter city and you don't even get dialogue with her or a mention afterword.
 

Raf-Raf

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Ah, this is why I love playing CoC 1 and not this piece of shit game because the modders actually respect the players who play it instead of just them writing whatever the fuck they want with the player as a fucking extra when they're supposed to be something bigger than the others.


Man, Who knew playing as a serial killer for mostly demons is going to be so fun.
I don't think this kind of thing will ever happen in CoC 2 since the dev team's made of pussies which is kind of ironic 'coz that's something they'll never have in real life.
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fetishgirl

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Just been playing TiTs again and while I prefer CoC II to TiTs overall. I think one thing that TiTs and CoC get right is the crew/companions in ship/camp. This is in relation to the Berwyn situation how they were removed as a companion. In both CoC and TiTs you have a lot of non-combat party members that follow you around wherever you go and having loyal crew members is a cool power play that makes you feel like you are making progress in both the plot and in romance.

I think it would have been cool to have something like a mobile base where instead of the tower being Berwyn/Wynne's schtick where they are aloof and seperate from us it could have been a cool replacement for the camp. Where all the NPCs who are close to us can join us at the tower rather than us having to travel to either the inn or the wayfort.

So we get something similar to the camp/Space ship of CoC/TiTs. Could have Gwyn run leave the inn to run the nursery in the tower have someone set up an alchemy lab get Ragnild to be our blacksmith have the 2 orc priestesses set up a shrine and all kinds of excuses to have each major waifu and husbando be close to us at all times. It would make an interesting contrast to Kass who has set up a tower herself. Also with Berwyn/Wynne at the head of the tower he/she could have a consistent non-combat role that didn't make it feel like we lost something really important when we finished their quest line.

I know its not a perfect replacement but I thought the idea of a mobile base comprised of an anti-Kass force with all your close lovers and other important characters together would be badass and it would still make Berwyn/Wynne really plot relevant still.
Also just a reminder in TiTs you can have this many crew members as shown by the wiki here

Anyone else after playing TiTs/CoC feel this is a major element missing in this game when compared to those 2?
 

Wrynn13

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Just been playing TiTs again and while I prefer CoC II to TiTs overall. I think one thing that TiTs and CoC get right is the crew/companions in ship/camp. This is in relation to the Berwyn situation how they were removed as a companion. In both CoC and TiTs you have a lot of non-combat party members that follow you around wherever you go and having loyal crew members is a cool power play that makes you feel like you are making progress in both the plot and in romance.

I think it would have been cool to have something like a mobile base where instead of the tower being Berwyn/Wynne's schtick where they are aloof and seperate from us it could have been a cool replacement for the camp. Where all the NPCs who are close to us can join us at the tower rather than us having to travel to either the inn or the wayfort.

So we get something similar to the camp/Space ship of CoC/TiTs. Could have Gwyn run leave the inn to run the nursery in the tower have someone set up an alchemy lab get Ragnild to be our blacksmith have the 2 orc priestesses set up a shrine and all kinds of excuses to have each major waifu and husbando be close to us at all times. It would make an interesting contrast to Kass who has set up a tower herself. Also with Berwyn/Wynne at the head of the tower he/she could have a consistent non-combat role that didn't make it feel like we lost something really important when we finished their quest line.

I know its not a perfect replacement but I thought the idea of a mobile base comprised of an anti-Kass force with all your close lovers and other important characters together would be badass and it would still make Berwyn/Wynne really plot relevant still.
Also just a reminder in TiTs you can have this many crew members as shown by the wiki here

Anyone else after playing TiTs/CoC feel this is a major element missing in this game when compared to those 2?
Just not having companions would have been a huge improvement. Game would have to have been balanced for solo combat, and felt less like the player was in the backseat. And not having content gated behind having a certain companion. But that's too much of a power fantasy...
 

Jötunn123

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I sort of like the idea of fighting with your companions (similar to when I played A dance with rogues and the good version of Demonheart (both are neverwinter nights modules)) But I also think that the combat really isn't fun. Sort of like what happens in TITS, there's no reason for you to not either powerlevel or cheat your stats since not only will they affect combat but also certain dialogues.
 

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I sort of like the idea of fighting with your companions (similar to when I played A dance with rogues and the good version of Demonheart (both are neverwinter nights modules)) But I also think that the combat really isn't fun. Sort of like what happens in TITS, there's no reason for you to not either powerlevel or cheat your stats since not only will they affect combat but also certain dialogues.
I'm fine with fighting with companions but forcing me to take them since you can never be solo in this game is just a huge turn off for me.

If there's a legit way to actually solo this no matter how many consumables I use then it'd be fine by me, I enjoy hard challenges but bad design =/= a challenging difficulty.
 

Basty96

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Ah, this is why I love playing CoC 1 and not this piece of shit game because the modders actually respect the players who play it instead of just them writing whatever the fuck they want with the player as a fucking extra when they're supposed to be something bigger than the others.


Man, Who knew playing as a serial killer for only demons is going to be so fun.
I don't think this kind of thing will ever happen in CoC 2 since the dev team's made of pussies which is kind of ironic 'coz that's something they'll never have in real life.
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aight just casually killing Moth girl who isn't corrupted (also killing her prevents you from killing an even greater demon than most others you encounter) i also really fucking hope you're not going to kill Dullahan grill otherwise start digging cause i'll come to bury you
 
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Basty96

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She's insane, by she I mean meh character.
But hey, seeing their death line gives you a hint that they're not that bad of a person and that is great writing for me.
Giving us the idea to remove characters by other means than talking is always a huge plus for me.
to each their own it's also pretty obvious why she's insane and you can reign it in
 

Raf-Raf

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to each their own it's also pretty obvious why she's insane and you can reign it in
Hey, that character would fit so well in CoC 2 especially since she's a prude who has a grand crusade of killing everything that ain't "natural" in her eyes.

And CoC 2 is so fucking perfect.
I won't even hesitate to kill Etheryn in her first encounter by telling Cait and Brint to fuck off somewhere or fuck in a bush then finish the deed, blame the demons for her death and saying I failed to save her in time.

The perfect crime~~~
 

silentangel

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She's insane, by she I mean meh character.
But hey, seeing their death line gives you a hint that they're not that bad of a person and that is great writing for me.
Giving us the idea to remove characters by other means than talking is always a huge plus for me.
You can have a child with her thats basically kinu but good.
 

Basty96

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*Regretting_decisions.exe plays*

A'ight, time to make a male chara and maybe the cactus guy from CoC 2 will be isekai'd in CoC 1 and have a happy ending for once.
the daughter also isn't Incest Bait (as long as a certain option is halfway on or completely on)
 
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