Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Which one's the bullet in the chamber? For the russian roulette part
Are they all bullets? Are we playing russian roulette with a glock?

I prefer to play russian roulette with a single shot shotgun. Thank fuck I have awful aim.

Man this entire thread is like Russian roulette people either argue about sarvin or whatever his/her name is or cait and now power scaling

Kas is easily multiversal tier and no diffs Cait.

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

You know, it's funny I play a game with a butthurt dev while I play a game that is both power fantasy and will absolutely pop your balls if you don't know what you're doing. Between random bouts of CoC I've also been playing Elin, by the crackhead dev who made Elona. Getting my fucking ass beat like a child fighting a pitbull, while simultaneously getting stat boosts by fucking drugging people's food and fucking them is what true agency looks like.

 

[Teshay]

That's Taimanin for ya, baby! That doesn't even rank up into the top 10 most fucked up parts of that series. The blue and white one CrimsonSongbird mentioned is Murasaki, and her whole thing is that she's basically fucking immortal and unkillable with quick regeneration capability. Sounds unbeatable, right?

Well in the bad ending of Taimanin Asagi 3, the bad guys reshape her body into a fucking cube, meaning no matter how much she regens, she stays a living Tetris block.

I think there was even merch of this released IIRC. God I love my goofy ninja chicks and the precarious situations they find themselves in...

This really tickles a dark urge within me. For the love of god stop making me curious about this shit. I like the small amounts of humanity I have left. Though personally, I don't think I can get into that type of stuff after looking at the wiki. I'm a selfish guy and seeing a group of guys fuck a single chick really doesn't do it for me. The cube ending description is pretty nearly and gives me ideas on what a possible antagonist might do in dnd if the party fucks with him though.

You mean to tell me that the game that brags about total freedom, sexual deviance, in a fantasy world full of races, creatures, magic, ways to become inmortal and change your race, the game that allows you to play with any kind of body you want....you mean to tell me that a game that have everything for a power fantasy dont do power fantasy?

Yes. They are kinda retarded like that. I do believe it was originally suppose to be a good game, but they decided half-way to change it to fit their dnd stuff. Which is why it has the bones of something vaguely interesting.

Why they hate it?, power fantasy does not mean bad writing or low quality, man, such wasted potential.

Because the main writer isn't flexible at all and wants the narrative to go in a certain way but is still very bad at even making that narrative so he mixes elements that promote power fantasy while not wanting it. He patched a boss fight you were able to win with a certain build to ensure you would absolutely lose. Instead of rewarding the player for engaging with the combat system, he punishes the player instead. If this is how he directs a game, I really wish him luck on his future coc3 novel or whatever the fuck.

Spoiler: You can do it chubby

Smash, Next Question.

Spoiler: Typeshit

I'm more curious how she is alive and why he gave her bike handles. I just seems to make the sex-sleeve more difficult to use.

To point B, this is directly at odds with his own game. You don't earn shit, you get told you ain't shit and the game world will be just fine without you. Additionally neither point takes into account him and his friends indulging their own power fantasies through their characters having everything go their way and only have good things happen to them and recieve things without earning them or the earning effort being on the player's end.

Calling back to the bubblelord's Takahiro whose quest requires you to help convince him he's the bee's knees, then kill Azami's dad because he didn't approve them being together. Then you can suck his dick or whatever when he starts impregnating everyone in the fox den. He literally fits their motif of a non-power fantasy npc.

Seed of chaos but right now it is more about being a servant and a lot of NTR stuff so meh.

I like the game and It does feel frustrating but it has the building blocks of something great in it. Like you definetely can slowly build your alliances with people more loyal to you then the twins. Especially when you make it clear they you are much better at their job then they are just by being yourself, cuz holy shit are the Twins the most shoe-in mouth motherfuckers ever when it comes to power-plays.

Furthermore there's the narrative problem of your champion being the focus of the history and possible savior of these furry monsters while also being told that the role of the champion is not that important, while the other important people do almost nothing. Being represented as someone weak in front of the world is not the issue, is the poor execution, is Tollus getting away like a cartoon villain every time you are close to finish him, is having Tollus as the de facto main bad guy when he possess zero aura to carry the role, while the real bad guy oscillates between loving girlfriend and Mao Ze Futa Dong

Yeah, nothing makes sense. Even though it isn't a power fantasy we are thrusted into power fantasy roles if you are being logical. If they wanted to make things more grounded and less dependant on the champion they should actually have other people actively doing shit. I remember in Tits there is a quest where the dog place gets into a fight with these cat people and you can see the dog people putting up a good fight, freeing some of them has a chance of them joining in to help you fight or them running into them scrapping with the cats. Captain whats-his-name is doing anything and he's a champion, hell I don't even remember what it means to be a champion in the game because our characters aren't choosen by a god or anything, who made us champion again? Speaking of gods, still the worst fucking choice to make the gods so powerful because it should mean that no threat should matter but they get plot-nerfed to be apathic and stupid. Why would Lumia not tell her fellow gods about the wraith trying to take over her, also why is it able to do that? How fuck wraiths are dangerous but selfdom used so meh. The writing is bipolar as fuck because it both is and isn't a power fantasy. It definetely isn't a dark fantasy or makes you struggle unnessarily, just a bunch of shit is needlessly tedious, like combat procs.

 

[PixelLewd]

Wasn't there a scene that was basically Himmel proposing to her and everyone but Frieren realized it?

Yes, Himmel did indeed basically propose to her with ring in hand, though I forget if he was kneeling for it or not. Frieren, unless I'm badly misremembering, accepts the ring, but like, as a gift, without realizing the significance of it, what Himmel was asking, or any of what was going on in the moment. Though some part of her must've known, cause she kept that ring and even gets somewhat depressed during a chapter were she loses it temporarily.

I imagine it'll end with Frieren getting closure and either living on to guide the families of her friends and humanity, or sacrificing herself to save those she cares about but being reunited with Himmel in the afterlife while her legacy and knowledge persist.

Kind of like How Berserk will almost inevitably have a tragic to bittersweet ending, assuming it's ever finished after the author died, Frieren will almost inevitably have an uplifting ending to some degree.

One can only hope, but it'll be taking quite a while before we see it. Between the current hiatus and the fact it already had a slow update schedule; who knows if it'll finish in our lifetimes lol

 

[FurrBat]

Man this entire thread is like Russian roulette people either argue about sarvin or whatever his/her name is or cait and now power scaling

Gotta admit the powerscaling is new but yeah we have some mainstay topics that get brought up then and now.

You can only say so much about an update when its like 3? bulletpoints long when discounting the bugfixes.

 

[KouUrakiZX-2]

The cider centaur. I mean points for alliteration I think. Wonder what all those fixes are. Perhaps our incessant complaining is fixing the typos. If so we did this. I claim responsibility on our behalf.

Majority seem to typos and broken parsers/scenes, judging from the bug report threads