Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Which one's the bullet in the chamber? For the russian roulette part
Are they all bullets? Are we playing russian roulette with a glock?

I prefer to play russian roulette with a single shot shotgun. Thank fuck I have awful aim.

Man this entire thread is like Russian roulette people either argue about sarvin or whatever his/her name is or cait and now power scaling

Kas is easily multiversal tier and no diffs Cait.

 

[MagnaSonic3000]

You know, it's funny I play a game with a butthurt dev while I play a game that is both power fantasy and will absolutely pop your balls if you don't know what you're doing. Between random bouts of CoC I've also been playing Elin, by the crackhead dev who made Elona. Getting my fucking ass beat like a child fighting a pitbull, while simultaneously getting stat boosts by fucking drugging people's food and fucking them is what true agency looks like.

 

[Teshay]

That's Taimanin for ya, baby! That doesn't even rank up into the top 10 most fucked up parts of that series. The blue and white one CrimsonSongbird mentioned is Murasaki, and her whole thing is that she's basically fucking immortal and unkillable with quick regeneration capability. Sounds unbeatable, right?

Well in the bad ending of Taimanin Asagi 3, the bad guys reshape her body into a fucking cube, meaning no matter how much she regens, she stays a living Tetris block.

I think there was even merch of this released IIRC. God I love my goofy ninja chicks and the precarious situations they find themselves in...

This really tickles a dark urge within me. For the love of god stop making me curious about this shit. I like the small amounts of humanity I have left. Though personally, I don't think I can get into that type of stuff after looking at the wiki. I'm a selfish guy and seeing a group of guys fuck a single chick really doesn't do it for me. The cube ending description is pretty nearly and gives me ideas on what a possible antagonist might do in dnd if the party fucks with him though.

You mean to tell me that the game that brags about total freedom, sexual deviance, in a fantasy world full of races, creatures, magic, ways to become inmortal and change your race, the game that allows you to play with any kind of body you want....you mean to tell me that a game that have everything for a power fantasy dont do power fantasy?

Yes. They are kinda retarded like that. I do believe it was originally suppose to be a good game, but they decided half-way to change it to fit their dnd stuff. Which is why it has the bones of something vaguely interesting.

Why they hate it?, power fantasy does not mean bad writing or low quality, man, such wasted potential.

Because the main writer isn't flexible at all and wants the narrative to go in a certain way but is still very bad at even making that narrative so he mixes elements that promote power fantasy while not wanting it. He patched a boss fight you were able to win with a certain build to ensure you would absolutely lose. Instead of rewarding the player for engaging with the combat system, he punishes the player instead. If this is how he directs a game, I really wish him luck on his future coc3 novel or whatever the fuck.

Spoiler: You can do it chubby

Smash, Next Question.

Spoiler: Typeshit

I'm more curious how she is alive and why he gave her bike handles. I just seems to make the sex-sleeve more difficult to use.

To point B, this is directly at odds with his own game. You don't earn shit, you get told you ain't shit and the game world will be just fine without you. Additionally neither point takes into account him and his friends indulging their own power fantasies through their characters having everything go their way and only have good things happen to them and recieve things without earning them or the earning effort being on the player's end.

Calling back to the bubblelord's Takahiro whose quest requires you to help convince him he's the bee's knees, then kill Azami's dad because he didn't approve them being together. Then you can suck his dick or whatever when he starts impregnating everyone in the fox den. He literally fits their motif of a non-power fantasy npc.

Seed of chaos but right now it is more about being a servant and a lot of NTR stuff so meh.

I like the game and It does feel frustrating but it has the building blocks of something great in it. Like you definetely can slowly build your alliances with people more loyal to you then the twins. Especially when you make it clear they you are much better at their job then they are just by being yourself, cuz holy shit are the Twins the most shoe-in mouth motherfuckers ever when it comes to power-plays.

Furthermore there's the narrative problem of your champion being the focus of the history and possible savior of these furry monsters while also being told that the role of the champion is not that important, while the other important people do almost nothing. Being represented as someone weak in front of the world is not the issue, is the poor execution, is Tollus getting away like a cartoon villain every time you are close to finish him, is having Tollus as the de facto main bad guy when he possess zero aura to carry the role, while the real bad guy oscillates between loving girlfriend and Mao Ze Futa Dong

Yeah, nothing makes sense. Even though it isn't a power fantasy we are thrusted into power fantasy roles if you are being logical. If they wanted to make things more grounded and less dependant on the champion they should actually have other people actively doing shit. I remember in Tits there is a quest where the dog place gets into a fight with these cat people and you can see the dog people putting up a good fight, freeing some of them has a chance of them joining in to help you fight or them running into them scrapping with the cats. Captain whats-his-name is doing anything and he's a champion, hell I don't even remember what it means to be a champion in the game because our characters aren't choosen by a god or anything, who made us champion again? Speaking of gods, still the worst fucking choice to make the gods so powerful because it should mean that no threat should matter but they get plot-nerfed to be apathic and stupid. Why would Lumia not tell her fellow gods about the wraith trying to take over her, also why is it able to do that? How fuck wraiths are dangerous but selfdom used so meh. The writing is bipolar as fuck because it both is and isn't a power fantasy. It definetely isn't a dark fantasy or makes you struggle unnessarily, just a bunch of shit is needlessly tedious, like combat procs.

 

[PixelLewd]

Wasn't there a scene that was basically Himmel proposing to her and everyone but Frieren realized it?

Yes, Himmel did indeed basically propose to her with ring in hand, though I forget if he was kneeling for it or not. Frieren, unless I'm badly misremembering, accepts the ring, but like, as a gift, without realizing the significance of it, what Himmel was asking, or any of what was going on in the moment. Though some part of her must've known, cause she kept that ring and even gets somewhat depressed during a chapter were she loses it temporarily.

I imagine it'll end with Frieren getting closure and either living on to guide the families of her friends and humanity, or sacrificing herself to save those she cares about but being reunited with Himmel in the afterlife while her legacy and knowledge persist.

Kind of like How Berserk will almost inevitably have a tragic to bittersweet ending, assuming it's ever finished after the author died, Frieren will almost inevitably have an uplifting ending to some degree.

One can only hope, but it'll be taking quite a while before we see it. Between the current hiatus and the fact it already had a slow update schedule; who knows if it'll finish in our lifetimes lol

 

[FurrBat]

Man this entire thread is like Russian roulette people either argue about sarvin or whatever his/her name is or cait and now power scaling

Gotta admit the powerscaling is new but yeah we have some mainstay topics that get brought up then and now.

You can only say so much about an update when its like 3? bulletpoints long when discounting the bugfixes.

 

[KouUrakiZX-2]

The cider centaur. I mean points for alliteration I think. Wonder what all those fixes are. Perhaps our incessant complaining is fixing the typos. If so we did this. I claim responsibility on our behalf.

Majority seem to typos and broken parsers/scenes, judging from the bug report threads

 

[Teshay]

Being weaker than the opposition and still winning is the best power fantasy.

Half and half. I much like starting weaker then becoming stronger through my own effort. If I'm stronger than something and it challenges me I prefer to flex on them. I enjoy being the oppresor especially if the foe is evil-aligned creature because that means not only can I be worst than them, but I will most likely be champi

CoC3 will probably be a static VN with false choices

None of us will play it, so I don't care about it. Now if it is manned by someone who isn't savin cuck co & Us, then I might be interested in it.

I kinda get the feeling Savin doesn't have any idea what he's talking about and won't be willing or able to give a clear answer.

Well...yeah he doesn't have to explain himself to us because we're meanies who are just haters! The guy who will use alot of shit to excuse his actions at worst and at best just be quiet about it. Like I don't even care that he didn't finish the Helspawn thing, I just wished he spoke his reasoning as to why. Like why even promose something you weren't going to deliver on then get pissy when people call you out? If I fuck up on something or just don't feel it anymore, I would tell the people who support me because they've earned that much for supporting me. Doubly so if they gave me money.

Spoiler: Last warning

This is less horroifying and more sad that someone has to go that far to get off. Like damn, I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemies.

I already quoted an example earlier of you contradicting and you ignored it. All you're doing is resorting to personal attacks now because your position is being challenged or you refuse to articulate your point. Nobody here can figure out what you're saying or rambling about. I'm done. If you can't respond to points raised without referring to people as special needs or illiterate then you have nothing of value to say on this subject and I'm not getting a warning for going off topic for trying to understand someone who refuses to engage in good faith.

Glad I didn't reply to them, felt like they were going in a loop and saying they hate power fantasy and it can't be good, only to agree it can be good but they don't like it so they can't. Just fucking say you don't like power fantasies and leave it instead of trying to state things as fact. I don't like yuri and female protagonists because I really can't relate well with them. But that doesn't mean yuri and female protagonist

"Oh no please don't cuck me don't take my Cait away from me please don't steal her forever" while walking out of the room after losing the bet on purpose

OH NO, NOT MY CAIT. THE CAIT WHO HAS ONLY EYES FOR ME, THE CAIT WHO ENTRUSTED ME WITH HER ANAL VIRGINI-*stiffles laughter* OH GOD OH FUCK NOT HER.

As lock the door knowing cait is going to drain their dicks faster like the ultra vaCUM cleaner she is. Not that even losing cait would bother anyone. She's just kinda there and hasn't done much of anything then to be quirky. I've never felt that the character got me emotionally invested in her or what happens to her.

Himmel didn't get the sword of the hero, he didn't care. Someone had to fight and he was willing and able, someone had to care

triggering my post dark lorda role-play era where I specifically targeted genuinely heroic and good people to kill because the world would factually be worst without them. Hope is a cheating piece of shit.

I question if it was Savin's intent

It wasn't. Next question.

did I ever tell you that there's someone knocking on my wall from time to time despite me living on a second floor and the house next to mine not having a second floor or even a roof good enough to stand?, I'm kind of worried

Don't worry about it. The less attention you give them, the less power they have. They can say some really personal things in the dead of night, I will not play their games.

auditory hallucinations

I do have diagnosed schizophrenia, so it might be all in my head. Doesn't help that I sometimes hear my family memeber call my name but it ends up not being them from time to time. Makes me annoyed.

 

[Teshay]

Don't worry nothing ever happens

Anyway many, many years ago there was a mudslide and a bunch of people died some people were lost forever and are probably still buried around, but that's no reason to panic, because nothing ever happens

The update so empty we're not even complaining about it.

I mean, another nothing burger npc who doesn't mean anything to the plot. They really could have saved all these words for a companion instead, just not whoever the fire bird person is suppose the be, the get a blank when thinking about their name and purpose. I think we have a fire companion or something. Or was that Quint? Yeah, he has a passive fire move that turns him all pink and firey. God I can't wait to breed that bunny.