Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[LandBeach]

Spoiler: [PUBLIC | COC2] TETSUYA

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Although I have not played it yet, I can tell you that I have rarely been excited about an update.

Now there's a totally valid reason to go to the kitsune.......... I don't give a damn if he has a femininity restriction, although I would have liked a slightly more masculine face.

Spoiler: I don't know bad

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I'd prefer a short hair pretty boy but this is fine.

 

[granjam]

How many characters can you marry so far? And can you marry more than one? If yes, are there any consequences?

 

[Skandranon]

How many characters can you marry so far? And can you marry more than one? If yes, are there any consequences?

4. Yes. No.

 

[zwere]

The thing is, it needs to be obvious from the initial content that the character is designed for that.

And then you have Ryn who is feminine as all hell, Savin goes out of his way to beat it into your head how Ryn is a woman, but you can't dedick her.... because of reasons? The real answer is, and always has been, that it's all about what the writer wants to do with their character and any reasoning they give you is just post hoc justification. If Savin wasn't into cocks you'd bet your ass Ryn wouldn't have had one to begin with. Same with Tobs and his whack ass Princess Maker warped fetish to raise a daughter and fantasize about some dude boning her.

 

[M0nte]

The real answer is, and always has been, that it's all about what the writer wants to do with their character and any reasoning they give you is just post hoc justification.

I mean, yes? Savin does not want Ryn to have a vagina, there is really no need for him to give any more justifications beyond that. You can question him and ask him personally why he made such decision, and disagree with him, but vilinizing him is a step to far in my book.

And then you have Ryn who is feminine as all hell, Savin goes out of his way to beat it into your head how Ryn is a woman, but you can't dedick her....

And this game, and the writers,consider girls with dicks equally as womanly as ones that just have vaginas. Because having one does not make one less or more of a woman.

 

[Quintilus]

Because having one does not make one less or more of a woman.

How about two dicks??? Ehhh....no, its still not enough, its only two pp not a big deal at all, forget it.
It feels like only around 6 or 7 dicks its owner become less of a woman.

 

[zwere]

I mean, yes? Savin does not want Ryn to have a vagina, there is really no need for him to give any more justifications beyond that. You can question him and ask him personally why he made such decision, and disagree with him, but vilinizing him is a step to far in my book.

While I definitely wasn't being friendly with my tone, I wouldn't go as far as to call what I said vilinizing. I just made my argument how the author's desires supercede what one might expect of a character through what is already in the game. I'm pretty blunt in my delivery but I think there are other regulars here who are just as direct, if not more.

And this game, and the writers,consider girls with dicks equally as womanly as ones that just have vaginas. Because having one does not make one less or more of a woman.

How many characters that only have male genitalia are considered women in this game, though? There are plenty of herms that are considered womanly, even though a majority of them are more manly than not. Ryn to me feels more like a sissy than a female, which is further reinforced by the supposed lack of desire to get dedicked. The only logical explanation is that like the Nyrea from TiTS, the boreal elves are made to have a less conventional morphology but not as extreme. Even then you have the standard female/male counterparts so the only reason Ryn won't get a vagoo is Savin says so.

I just wish he wouldn't hamfist the "SHES A WOMAN" descriptions. Okay? Who asked. Is Ryn supposed to represent trans people? Why would someone with body dismorphia in a world with alchemical tfs not just, y'know, get as close as they can to what they see themselves as? The dick is w/e I just don't get why no vagoo.

 

[M0nte]

Ryn does not have body dismorphia. If you ask her, the only reason she tried to get rid of her dick was because she tried to get rid of her chastity. It did not.

There is also Evelyn and the three horse ladies if I remember right. They only have dicks. They act more dominant, sure, but they are still woman as much as Brienne and Kiyoko.

 

[zwere]

I haven't really engaged with Evelyn much but from what I recall she's all about dicking people down ever since she got corrupted with her new equipment downstairs and that's all she cares about. I doubt she gives a flying fuck about being a man or woman, as long as she gets to dom and pipe willing subjects.

Look, I'll say it again, I replied to what I quoted originally to express that it doesn't matter what might seem "obvious from the initial content that the character is designed for that" to the reader, but rather what the author wants. My initial comment had all to do with giving an example of a character I thought didn't fit the mold of the quote, and nothing to do with whether you, I, or anyone for that matter, would or should consider Ryn female, a woman or whatever you want to call it. It's a pointless topic to hash out anyways since who you'd consider a woman past your bog standard worldwide definition of the word it's up to personal definitions.

You consider Ryn a woman, I think of Ryn as more of a sissy, should her content play out as outlined by Savin, of course. A third party, or you idk, might say Brint (not Brienne) could just say "I see myself as a woman" without anything else changing about his character and that'd be enough to label him as one. But like I said I don't think it's a topic worth pursuing since we're here to discuss fucking goofy-ass porn mainly.

 

[M0nte]

Yeah, I agree. All it matters what author wants. My bad.

 

[zwere]

Yeah, I agree. All it matters what author wants. My bad.

No prob. I kinda also derailed myself in the second comment with a tangent before I realized it.

 

[sugouxxx]

Imma sound real dumb for asking this but who the flying fuck is Sera? keep hearing is a well-written character but can't remember interacting with her for the life of me.

Sera are drug selling merchant from TiTS. She's futanari where you can save her shop and become her sub, or enslave her, dedicking her, and made her pregnant.

 

[arls120]

Keep us informed, but what are your current grievences?

I already tried its sexual content and the pregnancy together with the child's breeding and I can say that it is acceptable............ we had a girl and I can't stop caressing her.

 

[ffive]

Sera are drug selling merchant from TiTS. She's futanari where you can save her shop and become her sub, or enslave her, dedicking her, and made her pregnant.

I just thought people were talking about CoC character i haven't met, because it never occurred to me to think of TiTS Sera as "well written character" which she's supposedly a prime example of.

 

[zwagon]

because having more than one personality/route per character doesn't necessarily equal depth.

Personality=route? What? No, that's wrong.
Different routes are seeing the same character - that is, their personality - through a different lens. You know, like Sera's routes are if I'm remembering them correctly. It's been a while since I played through them.
Routes that don't adhere to that and just slap on a different personality with the same character name should be called what they are: bad writing. Would be better not to call them routes at all.

As an aside, the characters in CoC2 would be a lot better if the writers faithfully followed what the characters want, not what the authors want.

 

[Raf-Raf]

And another one joins our group.
Welcome to the club, buddy.

 

[Biostar]

And this game, and the writers,consider girls with dicks equally as womanly as ones that just have vaginas.

Until the actual biological need to breed comes up, then it suddenly matters.

 

[M0nte]

If you are referring to Ryn and the whole royal succesion crisis, I was told by second hand accounts that Lumia or something will give you both a child if you so choose. Which I think is perfect.

 

[MoneyMan181]

If you are referring to Ryn and the whole royal succesion crisis, I was told by second hand accounts that Lumia or something will give you both a child if you so choose. Which I think is perfect.

That's fucking lame. I don't want some random third party giving me a kid, I want it to be just based around my lover and I. I don't even fucking like Lumia, but her giving me a kid is perfect?

Giving her a vagina is perfect. Too bad Savin is weirdly obsessed with the idea of not giving her one despite giving her other transformations. Literally makes zero fucking sense. The fact that this even needs to be discussed is ridiculous.

 

[M0nte]

Adopting a child is perfectly valid.