Jbuster

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This makes me want to start a Liaden rant. Holy moly do I hate that shitty excuse of a character.
How can someone fumble this hard?

Everything about her, is just stupid. From the idea to the execution, there was either zero thought put into it or they just didn't care.

Let's start at the beginning.
You meet Azzy, you get to know her to bone her (a rarity for a Coc2 characters these days), you do her quest, free the hive. Liaden helps you. Everything is going great.
But suddenly boom, you return home and have to find out Azzy is poly and suddenly wants to bang Liaden.

First of all, why suckerpunch the player like this? I know Savin loves poly, but newsflash, Savin, most of the population doesn't.
Atleast with Cait he had the decency to warn you beforehand.
But ok you recover from that suckerpunch and now have two "options":

Option A:
Tell her you won't help her getting together with Liaden. Now you lose tons off "Azzy" content and the game tries to make you feel bad for being an ass about it. Whatever.

Option B:
You help Liaden and Azzy get together. Great. Just one tiny little problem. Liaden is a lesbian. She won't bang dudes.
Why? Nobody knows. Skows self-insert maybe? I don't know. What I do know is that you are now still locked out of all Azzy Liaden content, even if you wanted a "poly" relationship.

All of Azzy's CGs? Gone. Her holiday event? Gone.(Actually you meet Liaden on the way to Azzy and she will tell you about how she is going to suprise Azzy alone, thanks Savin, great christmas event :ROFLMAO:). And that's only the stuff I remember.
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But I guess I can't be suprised by a companion written by Skow.
Her love for NPC on NPC shit, just keeps getting in her way of being a somewhat decent writer.
From time to time there are those weird shitty whole paragraphs that go on forever lines they write when they forget this is a fantasy sex land and no one really cares about their dumb societal issues, they are so cringe you can almost feel their creativity fading away and the spite flowing into them

It doesn't work, I have zero reasons to believe poor, confused, lonely and repressed lesbian Liaden was something real that actually happened and therefore I should feel something about her, it wasn't real, it can't be. I refuse to concede that there's even a religious order in that whole setting to ever conceive the idea that sex=bad and homo sex=bad bad

Same thing happen with Daliza in a way less cringe way when Jael'yn talks about our bailiff just watching all the other girls training and thinking, "wow, so lesbian. She's totally into girls in a really gay way", and I'm sorry ma'am, but just the first day my champion got involved in all of this the local catgirl insisted on a blowjob so forgive me for thinking real life world attitudes towards sex, are the same as in CoC2 universe, because they aren't
 

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This makes me want to start a Liaden rant. Holy moly do I hate that shitty excuse of a character.
How can someone fumble this hard?

Everything about her, is just stupid. From the idea to the execution, there was either zero thought put into it or they just didn't care.

Let's start at the beginning.
You meet Azzy, you get to know her to bone her (a rarity for a Coc2 characters these days), you do her quest, free the hive. Liaden helps you. Everything is going great.
But suddenly boom, you return home and have to find out Azzy is poly and suddenly wants to bang Liaden.

First of all, why suckerpunch the player like this? I know Savin loves poly, but newsflash, Savin, most of the population doesn't.
Atleast with Cait he had the decency to warn you beforehand.
But ok you recover from that suckerpunch and now have two "options":

Option A:
Tell her you won't help her getting together with Liaden. Now you lose tons off "Azzy" content and the game tries to make you feel bad for being an ass about it. Whatever.

Option B:
You help Liaden and Azzy get together. Great. Just one tiny little problem. Liaden is a lesbian. She won't bang dudes.
Why? Nobody knows. Skows self-insert maybe? I don't know. What I do know is that you are now still locked out of all Azzy Liaden content, even if you wanted a "poly" relationship.

All of Azzy's CGs? Gone. Her holiday event? Gone.(Actually you meet Liaden on the way to Azzy and she will tell you about how she is going to suprise Azzy alone, thanks Savin, great christmas event :ROFLMAO:). And that's only the stuff I remember.
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But I guess I can't be suprised by a companion written by Skow.
Her love for NPC on NPC shit, just keeps getting in her way of being a somewhat decent writer.
Had no idea who this Embry character was. Which lead me to go look and find em. Which led me to stumbling upon an old forum post. Which led me to seeing some comments of Fen and some other random, with Savin chiming in. Gushing about dick and assholes. Which led me to remember why things are the way they are..... le sigh.

On another note! I have yet to turn down Azzy with Liaden. I heard about a quest ( ) a time ago. That differs whether you got them together or not. And how.... interesting Azzy's behavior and dialogue is with Liaden. Both depending on choices made, and compared to when done without her involvement. My curiosity drives me to witness this fabled fuckery :unsure: .
 

Nimbus Commando

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This makes me want to start a Liaden rant. Holy moly do I hate that shitty excuse of a character.
How can someone fumble this hard?

Everything about her, is just stupid. From the idea to the execution, there was either zero thought put into it or they just didn't care.

Let's start at the beginning.
You meet Azzy, you get to know her to bone her (a rarity for a Coc2 characters these days), you do her quest, free the hive. Liaden helps you. Everything is going great.
But suddenly boom, you return home and have to find out Azzy is poly and suddenly wants to bang Liaden.

First of all, why suckerpunch the player like this? I know Savin loves poly, but newsflash, Savin, most of the population doesn't.
Atleast with Cait he had the decency to warn you beforehand.
But ok you recover from that suckerpunch and now have two "options":

Option A:
Tell her you won't help her getting together with Liaden. Now you lose tons off "Azzy" content and the game tries to make you feel bad for being an ass about it. Whatever.

Option B:
You help Liaden and Azzy get together. Great. Just one tiny little problem. Liaden is a lesbian. She won't bang dudes.
Why? Nobody knows. Skows self-insert maybe? I don't know. What I do know is that you are now still locked out of all Azzy Liaden content, even if you wanted a "poly" relationship.

All of Azzy's CGs? Gone. Her holiday event? Gone.(Actually you meet Liaden on the way to Azzy and she will tell you about how she is going to suprise Azzy alone, thanks Savin, great christmas event :ROFLMAO:). And that's only the stuff I remember.
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But I guess I can't be suprised by a companion written by Skow.
Her love for NPC on NPC shit, just keeps getting in her way of being a somewhat decent writer.
I just tell her to fuck off, problem solved.
 

Alterism

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Liaden practically only exists in the state she's in because SKoW sucks at writing for the player. As in writing content that's player facing.

But also
First of all, why suckerpunch the player like this? I know Savin loves poly, but newsflash, Savin, most of the population doesn't.
Liaden was SKoW's baby. And you've seen the content SKoW usually puts in. Back when the wasp was first introduced, there wasn't any real indication that her content and the entirety of her character development was going to be shackled to Liaden until the end of time.

It's the kind of energy you get from a person who ships characters in a show. But, SKoW actually just writes it in. A lot of scenes are touched by that fetish. That entire elf twin dungeon was a disaster.
 

ChubbyFatBoy

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It's the kind of energy you get from a person who ships characters in a show. But, SKoW actually just writes it in. A lot of scenes are touched by that fetish. That entire elf twin dungeon was a disaster.
That sounds familiar.... sir loremaster. Your humble follower asks of you, to expand upon this delicious sounding fuck shit. And/or point me in the direction. So I may witness the tomfoolery myself. I tried to look it up. But all I could find was a short post. Talking about some seemingly forced orgy. But it did mention twins so maybe :unsure:.
 

DoodlesTheBob

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Hey everybody, I repurposed a modloader named KittyPatcher from Course of Tempation to Corruption of Champions 2, that makes modding this game easy, painless, and flexible. It works like a traditional game modding system where all mod files are put in a mod folder, a script is launched, and it mods the game for you. Me and Azriel are working on making it as update proof as possible (although it is already update proof for many mods you'd be making).

All mods released and developed for this game have been updated and integrated using KittyPatcher. So you can get all COC2 mods from one place using one easy method.

All Mods along with the Patcher are located here: Google Drive

How to Install Mods:
or
https://f95zone.to/threads/corrupti...-savin-salamander-studios.11371/post-16266790

How to Create Mods:


March 2, 2025 Update:
Important: Many files have changed! Must start with a new, fresh vanilla game install!!

New COC2 Modding Discord:
Come join the discord if you need help, or you're looking to mod and are waiting for the continued development of the existing mod tools.
If you want to suggest us make a mod, put it in the mod suggestions. If it gets over 10 reactions, we'll start working on it immediately.

Must download Python from here:


All Mods List
Azriel's Companion Mod: Allows for many more companions to be recruited into the party. Google Drive
Aylin's Cheat Mod: Allows many QOL features that improve the game experience, along with many cheats and modifications. Google Drive
Kitty's Game Editor Mod: Brings all ofCOC2 Save Editor functionality to the game itself. No more editing saves, you can do all that in game now. You can also recruit/dismiss any NPC in the game. You can now recruit previously removed NPC. You can also play any event in the game, and go to any location in the game. Google Drive
Kitty's Extra Companions: Adds Tamarind and Hethia as followers, trying to get evevyone to be added as followers. Google Drive
Kitty's Merielle Expanded Mod: Allows Merielle to be recruited as a companion, with her own interactions. (Good for learning how to make NPC's companions) Google Drive
Kitty's Add Home Mod: Adds two player homes to Hawkethorne, much like Breezehome in Skyrim. (WIP, Good for learning how to make new locations) Can send NPC's to Homes Google Drive
Kitty's More Camp Interactions Mod: Allows for more companions having camp interactions. Google Drive
Kitty's Unfinished Nya Character Mod: Reference for how to create and add new characters into the game.
Kitty's No Slut Cait Mod: Makes Cait much more sexually exclusive with the MC once meeting him. (Still improving, please send feedback) Google Drive
Kitty's Slut Background Mod: Gives the option for the PC to have a slut background. Google Drive
Kitty's Vulpine Race Mod: Gives the player the option to choose to be of the vulpine race at the start of the game. Google Drive

For People having issues with KittyPatcher, here are the premodded files:
Google Drive

Updates:
Game Editor Additions: https://f95zone.to/threads/corrupti...-savin-salamander-studios.11371/post-16321064
Game Editor & Bulk Dialogue Editor/Creator: https://f95zone.to/threads/corrupti...-savin-salamander-studios.11371/post-16335793
Can you drive the original creators of CoC2 crazy and add a "knock Cait up" mod? :>
 

Urist McHorny

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Damn the vast majority of content is catered for straight guys but when gay girls finally getting something it's cause for rants.
I wouldn't agree on most content being catered to straight guys. A lot of the women have dicks and then some of the remaining chicks without are massive sluts or lacks in the content department. And if they get new content too often it's a futa expansion
 

Ilovekatz19

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That sounds familiar.... sir loremaster. Your humble follower asks of you, to expand upon this delicious sounding fuck shit. And/or point me in the direction. So I may witness the tomfoolery myself. I tried to look it up. But all I could find was a short post. Talking about some seemingly forced orgy. But it did mention twins so maybe :unsure:.
It's a quest tied to the . It was add in .

I haven't touched it personally since I'm waiting for the Wayfort post quest content.
 
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Veilen

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I wouldn't agree on most content being catered to straight guys. A lot of the women have dicks and then some of the remaining chicks without are massive sluts or lacks in the content department. And if they get new content too often it's a futa expansion
They are talking about in general, as in everywhere. Not this game specifically. Which is true that the mass majority of stuff is catered to straight guys
 

Skandranon

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I wouldn't agree on most content being catered to straight guys. A lot of the women have dicks and then some of the remaining chicks without are massive sluts or lacks in the content department. And if they get new content too often it's a futa expansion
There's been maybe...half a dozen "futa expansions" in the entire life of this game. Probably less.

Less than 25 % of the women have dicks, and "lacking in content" has nothing to do woth straight/not straight.

The majority of this game is catered to straight guys. It's not even close.
 

tiltproofno

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There's been maybe...half a dozen "futa expansions" in the entire life of this game. Probably less.

Less than 25 % of the women have dicks, and "lacking in content" has nothing to do woth straight/not straight.

The majority of this game is catered to straight guys. It's not even close.

As someone that has been looking into each patch note since easily +5 years and only played update that features futa/gynomorph content, I can only agree with you lol. I feel like in the early days the % of futa content was way higher, similar to the one in TITS, but at some point they started to make casual/straight content the focus point.

Anyway, I started caring less about the game around the introduction of the weeb/fox girl content.
 

DoodlesTheBob

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There's been maybe...half a dozen "futa expansions" in the entire life of this game. Probably less.

Less than 25 % of the women have dicks, and "lacking in content" has nothing to do woth straight/not straight.

The majority of this game is catered to straight guys. It's not even close.
The majority of the unavoidable story encounters include dicked females, including your main opponent in the story, and gender swaps, in the case of companions. Getting fucked by people who just beat your ass in combat is also largely getting penetrated, not something straight men are into, and is largely a straight female priority. Especially when it is well documented that being raped is the most common female sexual fantasy. You're willfully blind to these aspects of the game, or disingenuous.

If you had said "Consensual content" you might have a point.
 

Tsubuhaza

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Whole specie are spiritual sluts and yet are surprised I fucked their leaders, curious :unsure:
Shame this game lacks the tech to reply to stuff.

"You fucked granny!"
"Yeah! And I'll do it again if you give me grief!"
"No!"
"I'll fuck her ass too!"
"Stoooop! I wanna be able to have lunch today, ewwww!"

I think most people would be surprised if you fucked their grandma's grandma.
Ain't that how they feed, energize or whatever? Old people need to eat too, y'know.

Damn the vast majority of content is catered for straight guys but when gay girls finally getting something it's cause for rants.
Well, fuck, can't even talk about a train crash these days because the train crash enthusiasts would throw a fit? That and the lesbian knight just sort of Poochie her way in. She doesn't even fight with the rest of the crew in spite of being, you know, a goddamn knight.

On a serious note, they could at least give you a tactic advantage of letting them get together like... having them both on the team allows for a stronger combo or something.
 

MarvintheBee

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Damn the vast majority of content is catered for straight guys but when gay girls finally getting something it's cause for rants.
I get your point, but also no.
My gripe isn't that the content is catered to gay girls.
I wouldn't bother if she were random NPC 25, who doesn't have connections to any companions.

I guess, I would still wonder why you would unnecessarily gate content behind a gender check.
You can look at other characters who do that, like Ramis from Tits.
She atleast kinda plays around with that concept, because she bullies twinks and her niche is build around that. But honestly it's not like she is a popular character to begin with.

Liaden doesn't even have that, there is no mechanical reason for her being gay. Her content doesn't get anything by being gated to females. Hell you can just switch your pronouns and access the same content. You don't need femal parts or anything. Something which Ramis doesn't let you do.

There is just no reason for any of it. But additionally she also is bound to a companion, who has much off it's written content locked behind their relationship.
 

YouShallNotLol

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Damn the vast majority of content is catered for straight guys but when gay girls finally getting something it's cause for rants.
There's been maybe...half a dozen "futa expansions" in the entire life of this game. Probably less.

Less than 25 % of the women have dicks, and "lacking in content" has nothing to do woth straight/not straight.

The majority of this game is catered to straight guys. It's not even close.
As someone that has been looking into each patch note since easily +5 years and only played update that features futa/gynomorph content, I can only agree with you lol. I feel like in the early days the % of futa content was way higher, similar to the one in TITS, but at some point they started to make casual/straight content the focus point.

Anyway, I started caring less about the game around the introduction of the weeb/fox girl content.
My honest reaction when 70% of "catered to straight guys" content are scenes of getting fucked in the ass or getting gangbanged by penis wielders:
Ligma Balls.jpg
 

Mendakin

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Because their OCs and their moments. Are more important to be commissioned for. Also, I don't remember seeing that other CG. Just the frost hound one. But I suppose it had been a time since I last looked. I imagine we back seating that moment as well :unsure:.

Granted.... I guess I could be a bit more fair and say. Since the champ can take assloads of forms. Even if they cared about us that much. Commissioning art with the champ ain't exactly the most feasible thing. Unless people really want them choosing the look, to represent the champ in full glory. Though not entirely impossible since I do believe. There is art containing at least the lower half of the champ.
we kinda are back seating since its an event and the other female is giving you a gift for being a wingman
 

Mendakin

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This makes me want to start a Liaden rant. Holy moly do I hate that shitty excuse of a character.
How can someone fumble this hard?

Everything about her, is just stupid. From the idea to the execution, there was either zero thought put into it or they just didn't care.

Let's start at the beginning.
You meet Azzy, you get to know her to bone her (a rarity for a Coc2 characters these days), you do her quest, free the hive. Liaden helps you. Everything is going great.
But suddenly boom, you return home and have to find out Azzy is poly and suddenly wants to bang Liaden.

First of all, why suckerpunch the player like this? I know Savin loves poly, but newsflash, Savin, most of the population doesn't.
Atleast with Cait he had the decency to warn you beforehand.
But ok you recover from that suckerpunch and now have two "options":

Option A:
Tell her you won't help her getting together with Liaden. Now you lose tons off "Azzy" content and the game tries to make you feel bad for being an ass about it. Whatever.

Option B:
You help Liaden and Azzy get together. Great. Just one tiny little problem. Liaden is a lesbian. She won't bang dudes.
Why? Nobody knows. Skows self-insert maybe? I don't know. What I do know is that you are now still locked out of all Azzy Liaden content, even if you wanted a "poly" relationship.

All of Azzy's CGs? Gone. Her holiday event? Gone.(Actually you meet Liaden on the way to Azzy and she will tell you about how she is going to suprise Azzy alone, thanks Savin, great christmas event :ROFLMAO:). And that's only the stuff I remember.
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But I guess I can't be suprised by a companion written by Skow.
Her love for NPC on NPC shit, just keeps getting in her way of being a somewhat decent writer.
fucking hell, keep ranting so we dont fall in
 

Mendakin

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Liaden practically only exists in the state she's in because SKoW sucks at writing for the player. As in writing content that's player facing.

But also

Liaden was SKoW's baby. And you've seen the content SKoW usually puts in. Back when the wasp was first introduced, there wasn't any real indication that her content and the entirety of her character development was going to be shackled to Liaden until the end of time.

It's the kind of energy you get from a person who ships characters in a show. But, SKoW actually just writes it in. A lot of scenes are touched by that fetish. That entire elf twin dungeon was a disaster.
ngl i fucking hate shippers especially the lgbt ones( i mean against the shippers) because most of the time they pull it out of their ass and get extremally butthurt if you dont like it.
 
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