To this day, it feels weird they put all the corruption and evil into the one waifu who only want threesomes because she's being nice and think that spending time with the champion is special, I'm almost impressed that they actually did it
Having said that... I'm happy I never lost against those guys and had money at hand because otherwise I'm going dragon of darkness mode
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Oh no it's more like those guys having that silly backstory that goes nowhere because, well, they are going nowhere, and less of them being an active problem for the champion
Yeah it was a huge nothing-burger. If he had more of a presence than a one-off encounter and was constantly showed to be better than you, then I'd have issue. Based on how people talked about him it certainly seemed like it. But I understand a lot of people's frustrations. It gets to the point that you would cherry-pick anything that supported the 'no power fantasy' thing. But honestly? I haven't really been feeling like a random mook. We've helped people, got a shit-ton of titles and managed to beat some pretty strong things. We clearly aren't the strongest, but I'd say we're mid-tier in the world.
Keep in mind, that the ability to dodge/block Leofric's punch was retroactively added in. Originally, it didn't matter how strong you were, he would always lay your champ on their ass. By the way, Leofric was one of Bubblelord's characters.
Also, the Brienne hobgoblin NTR was sort of, kind of redone. When it was first put in, it was way waaaaaay tonally dark for what CoC II is known for, basically a full on >rape doujin where Brienne is clearly traumatized by it. Wsan blew up in the discord about it as apparently Tobs didn't even tell him about it. It was a real shitshow.
And I know we're already past this, but fuck Bubblelord and his shitty self-insert OCs. I'll happily cuck Quint and Takahiro and Allah willing, Leofric too. I'll take his qt mercenary captain Jen, and then his goth goddess gf Tira. I'll leave Bub's characters with nothing. Azami will join my Kitsune breeding program. Rune will be my personal fucktoy.
Considering Bubs originally wanted Takahiro to cuck us with Kiyoko (Ironically it was Tobs who shut that down). How he spazzed out on the forums about how "Douchebags fuck girls all the time in real life, why are you all angry about my characters fucking random NPCs!?" when people were clowning on the fact that his characters seem to exist in a reverso world where Quint is seducing babes left and right and Taka is having threesomes with Miko and Mai.
Which contradicts scenes not written by him in which every character that's supposedly slutting it up with Bub's bitches are all like "Quint? He's a creepy cultist freak, I don't trust him." "Takahiro? He's a useless drunk, it's pathetic..."
He really was by far the worst writer of the entire bunch. He is not missed. Bad worth ethic, bad personality, bad ideas. That's all Bubs contributed. I'm usually a chill guy, I prefer vanilla wholesome romance, but for people like Bubs, I'll gladly embrace my inner monster and go full NTR antagonist.
I’m honestly at a loss for words—equal parts furious, disappointed, and just tired. Tobs is unbelievably tone-deaf. Knowing he wrote that scene doesn’t just frustrate me because it’s him—it’s the sheer hypocrisy. He’s the kind of guy who would’ve thrown a tantrum if
anyone else pulled something like that with
his characters. And yet he felt completely justified doing it to others’ without their permission? What the hell was he thinking?
And now, with what you told me about Bubs... I’m even more let down. I didn’t think it was possible, but in some ways, he managed to be worse than Tobs. Sure, he didn't put his cuck shit in the game. But that’s not even commendable, just common sense (another Tobs L). When you’re part of a team of writers,
bare minimum, you owe it to your peers to understand their characters. You don’t just hijack them for your wish-fulfillment garbage. He could’ve used literally
any generic NPCs for his 'super cool ladies man' scenes, but no—he
had to use established characters like a complete imbecile.
And the possible story? Don’t even get me started. Takahiro didn’t need help. He needed to be
reminded of how awesome and special he was, apparently. That was the ‘emotional climax.’ Our reward for helping him regain his self-worth? Becoming his side piece. Why does Azami even like him again? The man’s entire backstory reads like a script from an incel forum. Her father says he can’t marry her, and instead of proving himself or trying to find out why, he immediately tries to
kill him? That’s it? No abuse, no political scheming, no twisted noble plot—the dad just said no, and Takahiro had a tantrum. And we’re supposed to root for this guy?
Then there’s Quint. The more I think about it, the more everything clicks. His weird obsession with other companions, his creepy comment on your wife, the bizarre hatred toward Berwyn—it’s all projection. Every line of dialogue is just him broadcasting his insecurities, his thirst, his desperation to live through the player’s world. It’s not even subtle.
At this point, it’s not just bad writing. It’s
self-insert fantasy at its most pathetic. Honestly, he should’ve just uploaded his work to DeviantArt and called it a day. I don’t even know how it’s possible, but he’s somehow managed to be a bigger loser than Tobs.
How? Seriously—
HOW?!
I’m disgusted. I’m exhausted. I want in-game options just to cuck the hell out of every single one of his self-inserts, lore be damned. I don’t care if it’s unrealistic. Not that it would really be too hard if any of the interest had any self-respect. Give me the chance to spit in their faces and walk off with everything they wanted. I’m
done trying to rationalize this. It’s like someone took the bottom of the barrel, dug through it, and still found a way to go
lower.
And honestly? My whole day feels worse after learning this. Just... goddamn.
My eyes were glazing over at how much text got dumped at the thread in short succession, so I missed this one initially:
NO. This bitchass coward is not clear on any kind of list. The original event was him appearing out of nowhere, attacking Champ from behind, and then insulting the unconscious Champ. Which then got retold by Jen, while she was zealously glazing and gushing over Leofric.
There were no stat checks or any kind of variations. No matter how strong your Champ was, or what bosses they defeated, there was no option to stop Leofric from knocking out Champ in a single punch.
You didn't even get to see or hear that dude, he just one-hit K.O.'d you from behind, insulted you, and that's it. He never appeared or got mentioned ever again.
This remained unchanged for years. I don't know who, but someone complained about it persistently enough that they went and changed that encounter.
Probably because Tobs was still busy laying out the trap of Kiyoko being this super loyal kitsune wife. But then he went and wrote that hobgoblin scene where Kiyoko was getting fucked/raped by hobgoblins alongside Brienne.
No idea what goes on in the head of that man.
Fair enough, knowing what I know now about Bubs. I'm pretty sure the reason Leofric couldn't go anywhere is that everyone else wouldn't allow it. For bubs characters to shine he has to shit on other people's parades and step on other author's shoes. He wants to have main character energy but can't because he's a cog in Fen and Savin's machine.
