Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.8.17] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[KatVak]

Any new foxy content? Also, did they change anything with the fox villagethingy? People used to hate it when it came out and I was not a big fan of that part of the content myself.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

- I'd eliminate a lot of the minor stats that can be tweaked but have little to no impact on scenes, eg. Numbers for cum and milk volume, etc
- Transformations will be reduced to a hand full of races and it'll be more like a suit you wear rather than parts slip on with exception to certain sexual mutations you can get. While the races are reduced you'll get more interactions with different races, perks that activate or change based on your race, and exploration being. Think of things being less cook to get a transformation and more Omnitrix-like by getting blood or Cum to transform.

Ok, buddy. So you're going to completely eliminate core elemets of what made original CoC into CoC we all knew and loved.

Ironically, you ended up becoming Savin, as he also wants nothing less than to remove transformations and sexual stats like milk volume and stuff.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

The echo chamber is a real thing, I just went on the forum to see what you were talking about. They parrot the same stuff, and revere any crumbe of "progress."

Are y'all talking about that inhuman creature wich complained that most gender related terms like Hermaphrodite, Shemale and Trap are all slurs, and this game is very bigoted rightwing propaganda?

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Any new foxy content? Also, did they change anything with the fox villagethingy? People used to hate it when it came out and I was not a big fan of that part of the content myself.

It's largely the same. Nothing really changed aside from TOBS barely writing anything for his kitsunes nowadays.
I'll never get tired of complaining that Kiyoko is practically abandoned, and only gets new scenes from 3rd party voluntary contributions.

 

[GS21]

It's largely the same. Nothing really changed aside from TOBS barely writing anything for his kitsunes nowadays.
I'll never get tired of complaining that Kiyoho is practically abandoned, and only gets new scenes from 3rd party voluntary contributions.

Abandoned? Surely you mean "feature complete"

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

I've barely started the game, but I actually don't mind Brint as a party member so far (though he's basically in my party by default because his knight set makes it impossible for the party to lose and also because I've only encountered three members total so far: Cait, him and the dullahan girl). At least in the early game that I'm going through right now, there's only really scenes where he joins in on dominating the defeated enemies and occasional threesomes/sharing that the player agrees to, so no issues here.

Oh don't you worry! Brint coming to insert himself into a scene/into someone regardless of your feelings on it, will appear in time. Though I was blessed to never witness it. Our sacrificial lambs cherished friends in here experienced it long before me to tell the tale. You'll learn to dodge a lot of fuckery from these fine folks.

 

[Jbuster]

Oh don't you worry! Brint coming to insert himself into a scene/into someone regardless of your feelings on it, will appear in time. Though I was blessed to never witness it. Our sacrificial lambs cherished friends in here experienced it long before me to tell the tale. You'll learn to dodge a lot of fuckery from these fine folks.

It's a sad world when you go to Sanders thinking that fixing the armor will give you a cool item instead of more pain

Vatia... I'll never forgive you. That baby you're waiting for shall never exist

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

Oh don't you worry! Brint coming to insert himself into a scene/into someone regardless of your feelings on it, will appear in time. Though I was blessed to never witness it. Our sacrificial lambs cherished friends in here experienced it long before me to tell the tale. You'll learn to dodge a lot of fuckery from these fine folks.

The solution is magical HRT essentially making a whole new character. Or just solo the game.

It's a sad world when you go to Sanders thinking that fixing the armor will give you a cool item instead of more pain

Clearly the go to Sanders button should be the one with the warning.

Vatia... I'll never forgive you. That baby you're waiting for shall never exist

More snek for me then now that the cuck bull is out of the way.

Wait. Wait just damn minute. Bull man. Cucks player. Has Brint been a pun this entire time?

 

[Jbuster]

Wait. Wait just damn minute. Bull man. Cucks player. Has Brint been a pun this entire time?

"Nah that's just crazy stuff, no way they would do that. You're just hating", they say, but I've seen evil in this world, I've seen, darkness...

Spoiler: Now let me open your eyes

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[bleargh1]

I've barely started the game, but I actually don't mind Brint as a party member so far (though he's basically in my party by default because his knight set makes it impossible for the party to lose and also because I've only encountered three members total so far: Cait, him and the dullahan girl). At least in the early game that I'm going through right now, there's only really scenes where he joins in on dominating the defeated enemies and occasional threesomes/sharing that the player agrees to, so no issues here.

Agreed, I actually really like Brint, but I wish there were options and scenes that account for you *also* being a big hunky minotaur and the relationship being more mutual/reciprocal/switch-y for lack of a better word. Instead we seesaw between having two scenes where we top him (but even *those* scenes still have to include elements of "oh sure you come really hard in his ass but what *he* does is even more impressive" one-up manship showing how much better he is) ... or being utterly submissive and subby to him.

Why not some genuine back and forth and playfulness, as a real couple operates? Perhaps an option where you playfight to see who tops who?

Not to mention as others have said he still mostly seems to act like a weird himbo fuckbuddy instead of a husband/boyfriend, even if you marry him, there seems to be little genuine romance there outside of the occasional nice moments.

 

[FurrBat]

So you "domming" Brint is in the same situation and overall feel like "sub" Arona? The writer clearly not having idea what to do and writing that side as an afterthought as its not his fetish?

Hm, due to their rules unless stated you cant touch their super special OC's unless stated otherwise, but the writers themselves dont want to write the content.

Truly you cant make this shit up.

 

[Blaq Mask]

I CAN THROATFUCK JACK/JILL????
On my way

Unfortunately it was written by savin, so there's basically no reactivity to any of your attributes. I have 2 24 inch dicks that cum swimming pools but one of them disappears for the scene and they deepthroat and swallow like 10L of cum without comment. Dude really hates writing for TF games, and yet.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Yeah, you're not seeing the vision.

Spoiler: I yap about Game design for a porn gam

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You'll get over it

No. I see everything as it is. You're trying to reduce CoC to yet another generic rpg with boring generic orcs and kobolds, with pre-definet features and quirks, where player can only choose out of a couple pre-made molds.
At this point, just go make your own CYOA type game where everything is premade and pre-defined. But that will never be even remotely close to original CoC's idea of freedom and player agency.

Transformations A.K.A. player character customization is THE core idea of CoC. You have to build your game around that idea and expand outwards, instead of trying to remove the very thing that made CoC shine and stand out among other porn games.
Very fucking ironic how you came to the same end-point as Savin. Lmao.

which really doesn't matter, because the only thing you're getting is like, a word change that doesn't affect a scene

Dude. That's the whole point of character customization and character creation sliders in games like Skyrim. Making your nord player character look like James Bond doesn't do shit gameplay-wise, but it doesn't have to. That's why people spend hours autistically fiddling with character creation sliders in Sims, even though most of them don't mean shit and don't influence anything in the gameplay.
The whole point is to give players freedom to create and play out their characters.

 

[Sacred_Lamb]

Dude. That's the whole point of character customization and character creation sliders in games like Skyrim. Making your nord player character look like James Bond doesn't do shit gameplay-wise, but it doesn't have to. That's why people spend hours autistically fiddling with character creation sliders in Sims, even though most of them don't mean shit and don't influence anything in the gameplay.
The whole point is to give players freedom to create and play out their characters.

Number one, don't use Skyrim for customization, because skyrim is not endless customization, its a journey type game. Skyrim is a whole other Beast. There's a bunch of stuff that make it what it is. If it was just on the customization system, Skyrim would not be as famous as it is, so don't mention that.

No. I see everything as it is. You're trying to reduce CoC to yet another generic rpg with boring generic orcs and kobolds, with pre-definet features and quirks, where player can only choose out of a couple pre-made molds.
At this point, just go make your own CYOA type game where everything is premade and pre-defined. But that will never be even remotely close to original CoC's idea of freedom and player agency.

Transformations A.K.A. player character customization is THE core idea of CoC. You have to build your game around that idea and expand outwards, instead of trying to remove the very thing that made CoC shine and stand out among other porn games.
Very fucking ironic how you came to the same end-point as Savin. Lmao.

The customization might have been what drawed you, but pointless consumization doesn't make or break the game. What made the game was the acknowledgement of said, customizations. (When they actually get support)
The fact that you could turn into a lamia, and then go unlock lamia content is the microcosme for macrocosme for CoC gameplay.
You're not getting that, you're just wrapped up in just hating Savin. I can hate savin, and still acknowledge that he can have good ideas.
A lot of these transformations you keep going on about are the result of people wanting to have a door to their fetish, and then writing plot lines or a story to then justify said fetish and explorer said fetish. That's what these things are, that is literally what these things are in gameplay form. I'm flummoxed that you haven't grasped that idea.
I'm actually shocked. How did you miss that? Like, you do realize that majority of the customizations, you honor so much are just fan-made fetishes. Additions for fetish fantasies that people wanted in the game and the ones that have special scenes attached to them are there because the same people that were interested in said fetish, wrote it down.
That's crazy

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Number one, don't use Skyrim for customization, because skyrim is not endless customization, its a journey type game. Skyrim is a whole other Beast. There's a bunch of stuff that make it what it is. If it was just on the customization system, Skyrim would not be as famous as it is, so don't mention that.



The customization might have been what drawed you, but pointless consumization doesn't make or break the game. What made the game was the acknowledgement of said, customizations. (When they actually get support)
The fact that you could turn into a lamia, and then go unlock lamia content is the microcosme for macrocosme for CoC gameplay.
You're not getting that, you're just wrapped up in just hating Savin. I can hate savin, and still acknowledge that he can have good ideas.
A lot of these transformations you keep going on about are the result of people wanting to have a door to their fetish, and then writing plot lines or a story to then justify said fetish and explorer said fetish. That's what these things are, that is literally what these things are in gameplay form. I'm flummoxed that you haven't grasped that idea.

I actually prefer Savin over you, as a dev. He at least has enough smarts to wait until this one is finished, and then have his brand new game with transformation system completely gutted out of it.
While you want to gut this game right here, right now. Removing anything good that was there.

A lot of these transformations you keep going on about are the result of people wanting to have a door to their fetish, and then writing plot lines or a story to then justify said fetish and explorer said fetish. That's what these things are, that is literally what these things are in gameplay form. I'm flummoxed that you haven't grasped that idea.

Ah yes, people play fantasy races in their fantasy rpgs because it's all a fetish. And Tolkien's LOTR is an exploration of the fetish about hobbits' big, hairy feet.
Your "idea" is bullshit.

 

[Essta]

Sacred_Lamb YouShallNotLol

Integration of mutation and traits into the gameplay and scenes is a important feature to have that makes a game more immersie and engaging. (imagine a Baldurs Gate where the druid cove wouldnt react to you being a Drow... the race which leads the goblins siege on them.) However, this is a lot of work so unfortunately reducing the scope (ie, granularity and amount of customizations) is unfortunately neccessary. Saying this as someone who ocassionally devs myself. I can always add more mutations and refit scenes later, but trying to bring up a million variations for everything at once is a fools errant- id be working for years on such a update and have nothing to show for it while rightfully my players would get irrate.

 

[YouShallNotLol]

Integration of mutation and traits into the gameplay and scenes is a important feature to have that makes a game more immersie and engaging. (imagine a Baldurs Gate where the druid cove wouldnt react to you being a Drow... the race which leads the goblins siege on them.) However, this is a lot of work so unfortunately reducing the scope (ie, granularity and amount of customizations) is unfortunately neccessary. Saying this as someone who ocassionally devs myself. I can always add more mutations and refit scenes later, but trying to bring up a million variations for everything at once is a fools errant- id be working for years on such a update and have nothing to show for it while rightfully my players would get irrate.

Chad CoC1 that was able to have its cake and eat it too VS virgin everyone else.
Vive la révolution! tentacle cock swarm orgies!

Edit: CoC had just the right scope to be able to cram so much good stuff inside of it, while not bloating to unmanageable size. Definitely one of its accomplishments.

 

[Unobtainium]

(imagine a Baldurs Gate where the druid cove wouldnt react to you being a Drow... the race which leads the goblins siege on them.)

Easy since I self insert into every RPG under the sun. All those guys are reacting to on every play through is a human male and Shadowheart's future husband.

 

[CrimsonSongbird1982]

That's why lesbian porn is the only option for a truly heterosexual man, no dicks involved

Everything is gay and involves dick to some degree. There can be no guarantee that those women have never seen a dick in their life or that one wasn't involve in creating them through the sex. Additionally penis may have been involved in production. Therefore lesbian porn, even when viewed by a heterosexual man, has some level of gay that must be assumed.

Shadowheart cucking you with a bear.

Shadowheart is canonically kinky on all routes and I will romance no one else. I don't care if it's basic I know my preferences.

Savin totally wishes he could force everyone to play as Cait.

I'm sure someday someone will post how they solo'd Kas and in response savin will petulantly add an update that forces Cait into your party if you try to select no one. They're only recently throwing thief class a bone after daring to abuse crits.

 

[Jbuster]

BG3 is basically what Savin and company wish they were. Throwing all their fetishes out in the open. Swinging characters. Shadowheart cucking you with a bear. They went beyond Savin when you could play as the other party members instead of a character you generate yourself.

Savin totally wishes he could force everyone to play as Cait.

Playing as Cait leaving the temple and learning that kids living outside had it way better than her