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One porn game by the mildly shit content is enough for me, same couple Brienne scenes on loop here i come :KEK:
Pretty much all content is avoidable, and any slice of content you want is there in much more excess than CoC2. Most pure followers can even be corrupted. I highly recommend it, despite the flags. Also, Marble is another cowgirl you can attach yourself to

Gotta fourth red flag for ya though. There used to be (idk about anymore) a Silly Mode encounter where you literally run into My Little Pony characters :KEK: You can even get a mlp centaur body with your own stamp thing.
 

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This is off-topic but I find it too interesting to not bring up. I joined the discord (Against better Judgement) and did a little poking around. It seems like F95 is the most hated forum for discussion about CoC2. Even more than 4Chan, why is this? I mean sure there are some dumb comments here and there but I just find this so strange.
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Echo-chambers are one hell of a drug, some people simply can't handle criticism.
 

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Echo-chambers are one hell of a drug, some people simply can't handle criticism.
Not to be that guy and all, but its a pretty weird echo chamber here as well. The only real difference is levels of moderation.

Like as a person who actually still likes most of what CoC2 does, its hard to actually want to voice that opinion for fear that the forums will shit all over me for it.
 

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Not to be that guy and all, but its a pretty weird echo chamber here as well. The only real difference is levels of moderation.

Like as a person who actually still likes most of what CoC2 does, its hard to actually want to voice that opinion for fear that the forums will shit all over me for it.
I don't think that would happen, but I'd be more than happy to see what's gotten you excited about the game lately

Edit: Also, Skandranon is literally always defending them and no one has attacked just debated. If anything, myself and others have a respect for his staunch defense of many actions they make. Constantly fact checking, always watching from afar for one wrong statement. Love the dude/ette for it.
 

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I don't think that would happen, but I'd be more than happy to see what's gotten you excited about the game lately
Me personally?

I've greatly enjoyed all the Khorminos stuff for the most part.

The nice little bath scene with Arona with a nice treat I wasnt expecting as well.

The Dawnsword questline was pretty neat, if a bit short, but the nice little variations based off companions was a neat little touch.

CoC2 has lacked big content patches for a while, and some of its really touted ones as big ones really are pretty small in general (this Berry quest one being one of them), but the little stuff still really fleshes out a lot of empty areas. Like the addition of the maids in the wayfort doesnt really do anything and the scenes themselves are pretty short, but it makes the area actually feel alive. Considering how large the area is and how few things are actually there (and how little content some of it has gotten, poor Alurane) its nice for it to feel a bit more alive.

I sort of get the complaints about lack of real content recently, and the devs tendency to do weird tangents, but the actual additions arent nearly as bad as people make them out to be.

Like, this Berry quest is a really obvious one right? Berwyn has gotten 0 content in, what...year+? That's as close to abandoned as you can get. For people who want Berwyn to essentially stay the same as is, just dont accept the quest. Berwyns content stays exactly as is and you've essentially lost nothing. For people who want the new content you get a neat dungeon (if very confusing for my tiny dumb person brain), a nothing fight, then some decent writing followed by an actually pretty cool double fight.

I'm whatever on the conclusion allowing you to customize Berwyn entirely. I get it from a player standpoint, you get the Berry you want, no muss no fuss, but from a writing standpoint it felt a bit silly. Its apparently Berwyn realizing what their body was before the forced change, except its the player guiding the change entirely? Its weirdge, but again, whatever.

And if you do follow the story thread, the scenes afterwards are quite nice imo. The submission/dominance system is barebones as fuck, sure, but the scenes themselves are quite nice especially the submission ones.

The only legitimate complaint is lost dev time from people who just dont give a shit about Berwyn (me!), but like that's kind of a tough titties situation imo? Like requests are requests, and sometimes writers just really want to close out a story at some point. Berwyns been sitting there forever with a loose plot thread just dangling. I dont fault the writers for wanting to finally pull that thread and finish it off.
 

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THAT'S PRAISE FOR THE GAME IF I EVER HEARD IT, GET EM BOYS!

But nah forreal though, I agree with a lot of what you're saying. It's definitely important to flesh out otherwise barren seas of tiles upon tiles. I mourn for Alraune as well though.

BerryQuest could have at least not deleted the old content, yknow? Like you're not wrong about it being time to finish his story, but remove as a companion? I agree from meta standpoint ofc it's great you get the Ber you want, but it also feels like a disservice to his character what with him being changed by his old mentor and all.

Also, what dom/sub in these games aren't barebones?
 
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Based off what the original writer is saying, they were forced out, not that they left. Which if thats the case it makes the devs look worst, as they fired someone without finding a replacement writer. And there should be no excuse about cost as they should be able to use the money they were paying hugs to hire a new writer.

But the long and short is I agree with you. Whether Hugs quit or was fired it would be on the devs to fix the situation instead of playing the blame game.
Much appreciate the clarification and such. I haven't followed the drama much just what I read on the fenoxo page. Maybe we can get hugs to hop in here and give their side of the story. RIP because I was liking the writing.

Berwyn IMO was a fun character because you could coddle or bully him. It felt a lot more dynamic than say the one way street we get with other characters. It had potential and I liked the bits of info on how he interacted with other NPCs and such.

And I sympathize with his character a bit, a mistress who turned him into a horn dog and him trying to work with the state of affairs and such. My situation wasn't exactly like that, but did date a nympho who kinda warped my idea of sex for a good while till I resolve those issues years later.
 

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When it comes to Berwyn, I think the biggest issue is that they didn't tell anyone.

I understand the reasons behind the decision they made, and I think it wasn't a bad one, or at least the best that they had available.

But without any expectation management, it hit kinda hard. Wsan is pretty adamant that this was the best way to do it and telling people beforehand would have simply resulted in months of harassment and complaining, but I still think this wasn't the best way to break the news.
 
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Not to be that guy and all, but its a pretty weird echo chamber here as well. The only real difference is levels of moderation.

Like as a person who actually still likes most of what CoC2 does, its hard to actually want to voice that opinion for fear that the forums will shit all over me for it.
All of the forums about CoC2 are in some way an echo chamber
The difference is like you said, moderation but this is mainly just two sides refusing to communicate with each other either out of pettiness or fear of being banned.
I'm 100% sure most people who look at this forum wouldn't be here if they could actually voice their criticisms or opinions without a volatile reaction from the devs or people on the other side. Although that doesn't mean this place is perfect as well.
 

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Echo-chambers are one hell of a drug, some people simply can't handle criticism.
Kinda surprised Savin even knows about this site, seeing he avoids criticism like the plague. I also figured he spent all his time re-tweeting futa art and occasionally writing, with no time for anything else.
 
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Granted, and giving them ideas here, not even sure why a high confidence queen of the elves Ryn would even want to listen to us if we're against it.
Because she loves you and has given you a high position in her kingdom. I dunno, that should count for something. She isn't a kitsune.
This is off-topic but I find it too interesting to not bring up. I joined the discord (Against better Judgement) and did a little poking around. It seems like F95 is the most hated forum for discussion about CoC2. Even more than 4Chan, why is this? I mean sure there are some dumb comments here and there but I just find this so strange.
There's people there willing to waifu Cait and Kiyoko despite Kinu and the den.
I'm sure there isn't even an option to say, "Hey, I'm not into partners who sleep around without even asking me if I'm alright with it, go kick rocks, bitch."
There actually is an option to break up with one or both of them over it. I don't remember if there's a way to avoid it at all though. I do know there's a way to set it up yourself so that it doesn't happen behind your back.
 

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I saw some people talking about wanting to play the original CoC so I feel obligated to post OCA (otherCoCanon mod) it's got a lot more content and more toggles as well, hell they have a toggle to just flat out remove Urta if that says anything.
 

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Echo-chambers are one hell of a drug, some people simply can't handle criticism.
Since 4chin Savin hated any criticism, here we can be more vocal and he hasn't any influence over here (god gried) idk if you noticed, but this thread was raided time to time with people that simp him from his Discord (Some subtly others not so much).

Also:
>mfw Savin avoids us and HAS noticed us and he can't do anything
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When it comes to Berwyn, I think the biggest issue is that they didn't tell anyone.

I understand the reasons behind the decision they made, and I think it wasn't a bad one, or at least the best that they had available.

But without any expectation management, it hit kinda hard. Wsan is pretty adamant that this was the best way to do it and telling people beforehand would have simply resulted in months of harassment and complaining, but I still think this wasn't the best way to break the news.
There are signs that a writter isn't comfortable with their work environment when they update less and less, Clearly the harassment from the retard brigade Savin/Tobs have (and more Tobs because you know) makes really hard to pump out a good companion without get the stink from the toxic devs with a delusion of grandeur.

Kinda surprised Savin even knows about this site, seeing he avoids criticism like the plague. I also figured he spent all his time re-tweeting futa art and occasionally writing, with no time for anything else.
If you check the past posts (1 or 2 years ago) The shitstorm was so big that It wouldn't surprised me he noticed us (Notice me sempai :DDD)
Literally Jannies deletedentire pages of the thread at request of you know who
>Picrel were Jannies on those days
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I haven't touched this game in about a year and they remove Berwyn, one of the only characters a gay guy like myself could actually enjoy... I hope Savin and that whole dev team get fucking lynched, this is incredibly retarded.
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Holy mother of based, Anonarts is a chad for going against the grain and not giving a fuck. I'd be hesitant to interact with anybody in the place at all.

I mean if you have sex with a demon, you're going to get corrupted. Promiscuity may not inherently spread it, but it makes the likelihood way higher.

We haven't actually seen Cait offer to purify you or anything despite being a priest so I don't think this is the case. Not even Sanders is able to do it for you, and he's probably way more experienced in that sort of thing than her. Seems like corruption is an intrinsic thing other people can't really cure.
Zo can purify you, quite a lot really. Of course monks like her seem fairly rare in game.
 

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Wow didn't even know that shit about Urta, super fucking yikes.:FacePalm: Can these devs for one second not be obsessed with putting in their own super special OCs into these games? It's kind of ridiculous at this point. And I'm sure there isn't even an option to say, "Hey, I'm not into partners who sleep around without even asking me if I'm alright with it, go kick rocks, bitch." It's seriously crazy how obsessed these guys are with NPCs that sleep around, without you being able to do really anything about it.

Literally every new thing I find out about these devs makes me think less of them, it's absolutely fucking bonkers. Murphy's Law is absolutely reaming my asshole like Kassyra does to my PC, jesus christ man.
CoC1 was better not in that they didn't have characters like this but in that you could choose not to interact with them. Don't like Urta, don't interact with her. For the most part anyways since they did lock endings behind her stuff which was stupid.
 

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Come in here and post something like Savin is God and Tobs his profit and you all aren't worthy to kiss his feet and yeah I imagine the reaction won't be great but a honest discussion of something you like that most don't isn't going to get anyone attacked. Skand is even defending the Berwyn treatment for some reason and I don't see any torches and pitchforks, yet...
 

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CoC1 was better not in that they didn't have characters like this but in that you could choose not to interact with them. Don't like Urta, don't interact with her. For the most part anyways since they did lock endings behind her stuff which was stupid.
Some of the revamp mods even had options in the menu to just disable the character with the flip of a tab
 

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When it comes to Berwyn, I think the biggest issue is that they didn't tell anyone.

I understand the reasons behind the decision they made, and I think it wasn't a bad one, or at least the best that they had available.

But without any expectation management, it hit kinda hard. Wsan is pretty adamant that this was the best way to do it and telling people beforehand would have simply resulted in months of harassment and complaining, but I still think this wasn't the best way to break the news.
Just being transparent will always be the best option when dealing with internet drama, those guys are old enough to understand this.
 
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