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I guess everyone has their own definition, but for me power fantasy just means having agency to the point where you can control most outcomes. Not so much "you are better than everyone else" but more like controlling the actions of the player character more precisely and as a consequence, not being put into powerless situations.

In a game where you get raped when you lose, that means having the power to win and overcome losing. Where there exists a possibility of getting ntr (for it to be ntr, I assume 3rd character/group is into your partner but not you, and only wants to have sex with your partner) breaking of the characters having sex (ideally before the whole interaction) and take your partner in front of them. Or simply the option to not engage with content that you don't like or having the ability to refuse sex. It makes the game much more interesting in my opinion, rather than having a linear story with no input.

As long as you have the option to change outcomes, i'd consider that power fantasy in this context, or at least that is the context Savin repudiates players having. Actual power fantasy trope is just being unreasonably powerful (and if the hero is unreasonably powerful to the point enemies aren't even an issue, then there is no game).
 
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Best thing about Anno is that she's 100% built around consent, she won't come if you don't want her to, how much of her shenanigans you wanna be part of are entirely up to you, she won't force you into anything and she ain't about some weird-ass sex cult that is basically demons but with the holy seal of aproval, nope, she just loves sex & understand not everybody's like that so she won't pester anyone who rejects her (also while she loves sex she won't just open her legs for anyone, girl has standards)

P.S: Having some intrusive thoughts now, I know we all joke with the "No Power Fantasy" statement and all but like...can you actually make an engaging game that deals with combat/magic powers without it being a power fantasy?

Would stuff like Pokemon/Digimon count as "Not power fantasies" because you yourself aren't strong but those you control are?
Huh...now wondering if a game where you aren't powerfull but through some special ability get to control powerful & sexy adventurers into making your own harem/party to go into epic adventures and order them around in combat as if they were pokemon still qualifies as "Power fantasy" or not.
All in all she is still trash they both are one is just slightly less so.
 
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All in all she is still trash they both are one is just slightly less so.
Yeah, Anno is a proud slut but like compared to Cait I just like her way more and more just generally fun.

She fucks around but only really for the fun of it, she ain't exclusive (not that MC isn't a manwhore either) and really just admits that quite openly, think it helps that while yeah she does have a lot of content, Anno hasn't really got new stuff.... since ever really, the last wiki activity was on March and nothing added new stuff for Anno because her list of scenes is quite big since pretty much ever, it helps she is more funny and more interesting than Cait imo.

Additionally she is a slut, not a whore, in practically all encounters but 1, she asks you to join in to fuck her or get fucked with her, she has some standards.
Can't forget the Kase interaction, the subby kaithrit boy is a fucking nervous wreck but she does try boosting his confidence a bit and actually befriends him, they do eventually fuck but really they are just friends, one of the bar encounters is the two just nerding it out and MC not interrupting just because they are having fun.
 

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Yeah, Anno is a proud slut but like compared to Cait I just like her way more and more just generally fun.

She fucks around but only really for the fun of it, she ain't exclusive (not that MC isn't a manwhore either) and really just admits that quite openly, think it helps that while yeah she does have a lot of content, Anno hasn't really got new stuff.... since ever really, the last wiki activity was on March and nothing added new stuff for Anno because her list of scenes is quite big since pretty much ever, it helps she is more funny and more interesting than Cait imo.

Additionally she is a slut, not a whore, in practically all encounters but 1, she asks you to join in to fuck her or get fucked with her, she has some standards.

Can't forget the Kase interaction, the subby kaithrit boy is a fucking nervous wreck but she does try boosting his confidence a bit and actually befriends him, they do eventually fuck but really they are just friends, one of the bar encounters is the two just nerding it out and MC not interrupting just because they are having fun.
They both have zero standards at all
 
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ikr not sure if the guy thinks its weird or not when you can fuck your half sister and cousin in this to and tbh given your father you prob plowing a family member he didn't even know lol
It's not a matter of being weird or not, it's the fact that Savin thinks it's a turn-on to be fucking someone who fucked your father that proves that Anno is a product of his.
 

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It's not a matter of being weird or not, it's the fact that Savin thinks it's a turn-on to be fucking someone who fucked your father that proves that Anno is a product of his.
Eh, I'm pretty sure it's a joke, your character is visibly grossed out.

In fact, I'm pretty sure the whole thing is Fenoxos joke, not Savins. Fen wrote your dad as the poonhound he is, and there's several characters in TiTs your dad banged not written by Savin.

The biggest example is one of the LoveStars who talks about it, loudly and at length, while fucking you.
 
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Guys I know I brought Anno up (Comparing her to Cait), but let's try to keep this thread on topic for CoC 2.

I have been replaying it for a while and I don't remember it being how it is now. It's much better than when I played it a few years ago. And even though there appears to be more content for futa/dickgirls/femboys, there are a ton more female characters than I remembered.

Might have judged it to unfairly before, it's actually great.
I just hope the Kitsune aren't as bad as people seem to be saying here, cause they are literally my favourite type of girls.
 

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Guys I know I brought Anno up (Comparing her to Cait), but let's try to keep this thread on topic for CoC 2.

I have been replaying it for a while and I don't remember it being how it is now. It's much better than when I played it a few years ago. And even though there appears to be more content for futa/dickgirls/femboys, there are a ton more female characters than I remembered.

Might have judged it to unfairly before, it's actually great.
I just hope the Kitsune aren't as bad as people seem to be saying here, cause they are literally my favourite type of girls.
I recommend that you just play through the Kitsune den and form your own opinion, instead of relying on the opinions posted in this thread. A lot of people in here hold years old grudges and this colors their perspective on not just the Kitsune but on CoC2 as a whole.

Elsewhere, Kiyoko continues being one of the most popular characters, and for a good reason. Kohaku is also insanely popular, and so is Rindo.

The backlash in here against the Kitsune is IMHO overblown due to a lot of people in here having a personal beef with the guy writing them, the source of this anger being past drama and the fallout from it that happened all the way back when CoC1 was still being worked on. They claim that the writer created Kinu specifically to "troll" them.

But again, instead of believing either side the best course for you is to just play through the Kitsune content and form your own opinion.
 

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Might have judged it to unfairly before, it's actually great.
I just hope the Kitsune aren't as bad as people seem to be saying here, cause they are literally my favourite type of girls.
I also encourage you to try it for yourself. The only thing you should be warned about is that the guy in charge of the Kitsune seems to think that dividing chunks of words into paragraphs is a suggestion, not a rule. Combine that with his penchant for purple prose reading his work will be a chore. Ignoring all the allegations of him writing stories out of spite for the community one thing is for sure: The Observer needs a fucking editor.
 
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