Tsubuhaza

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I see! so Basically I'm considering Power Fantasy from a narrative standpoint of avoiding a Mary-Sue/Overpowered main character whereas Savin just hates RPGs in general and wishes this was a book all about his OCs with no imput of the players whatsoever? (By that definition dude just wants to remove player agency from an RPG, the gender defined by that very player agency, is a stupid paradox.)
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I actually don't like games where you can max all your stats, tbh. makes stats seems meaningless.
It generally depends on how the stats are handled though having a full set doesn't necessarily make the stats meaningless, it's just a sign of ultimate efficiency. And people should always have the possibility to reach such a stage in games, mostly to reward them but also because it can be a pretty funny sight to just see the big bad boss get fucking routed.
 

Walk Cycle

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Wait does someone have a screenshot? I never had the uh "kick" to play the game for a long time, how bad is it?
You must've at least reached and completed the entirety of Gweyrquest, featuring an unskippable out-of-body flashback. In fact Tobs writes a lot of the main and side dungeons so even if you ignored the Kitsune Den you'll still have a taste of Tobs' writing.
 

stuffinabox

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Savin has DnD sessions that he and his friends played on his YT channel, and its kinda disheartening how boring the lore for this game is. You have the Seven, gods who are secretly the most powerful members of an extra-dimensional race that almost destroyed the world and were expelled from it, who then took up the mantle of gods that did exist but were gone by that time (or so they say), and there is nothing really substantial done with it.

In DnD, there were three individuals who held the mantle of the god of Death: Jurgal, Myrkul, and Kelemvor.

Under Jurgal (neutral), death happened but it wasn't an unnecessarily intimidating or horrifying thing.

Under Myrkul (evil), death became scary, it became a terror that seemingly hunted people down to kill them.

Under Kelemvor (good), death became a comfort that would bring the good and righteous to paradise and the evil to judgement.

Out of these three, Kelemvor had the most harmful impact; good-aligned adventurers became glorified suicide bombers that were going to paradise because they died fighting evil, while evil went underground and became more devoted to the gods they worshipped. It only stopped because Ao, the chief of all the gods, told him to knock it off because the other good-aligned gods were complaining about.

There is no exploration of how entities, who gained emotions just before they took up the positions of literal gods, would fare. Would they focus too much on one aspect of their new portfolio to the detriment of others? Would they be ignorant of or actively ignore whatever nuances and intricacies their new positions had? Would they be involved with every aspect personally or would they essentially fuck off unless it was necessary?
Savin obviously enjoys having his writing be set apart from other people's. I understand the want to make a 'game' and feature your own stories collectively that otherwise wouldn't get the recognition they deserve, but Between Fen, Sav & crew, it really makes me think they'd just be losers at an anime convention rather than actively interesting people with their own panel/booth. VIP pay pigs for shit they pay people to do for them.. That they could do themselves.
 

Unobtainium

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Personally I feel that The Seven only took up that mantle due to greed. Instead of destroying the world they decided that they'd much rather bask in the worship of mortals.
Greed? Don't Nareva and Lumia tell you about them literally gaining empathy for people the second they "woke up". And it's not like they had a choice of what they turned into. They just woke up as I assume the god that people were praying to the most around them at the time based on what they said.

Wouldn't put it past Keros though. They guys a cunt.
 

Skandranon

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Greed? Don't Nareva and Lumia tell you about them literally gaining empathy for people the second they "woke up". And it's not like they had a choice of what they turned into. They just woke up as I assume the god that people were praying to the most around them at the time based on what they said.
Nah, they didn't wake up as gods, they were still themselves. They were massively powerful beings due to all the souls they had eaten, who suddenly lacked a purpose and were full of feelings, largely guilt.

They ran into each other and there happened to be 7 of them, amd there also happened to be 7 gods that people prayed to that...didn't seem to actually exist anywhere, so they just decided to fill those roles.

I think it's a pretty neat idea that opens up a lot of questions. Maybe the gods died? Maybe they never existed? Maybe thos is one if those situations with "destiny" where fate maneuvers the position to be filled by someone suitable?
 

Bloep

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Isn't that what this all is? A pyramid scheme of people paying Fen and Savin so they can pay people for smut. The pay pigs should just go straight to Wsan and the more liked writers, cut out the middle man.
At the end of the day, you still need a coder(s) to stitch the works of all the writers and artists together so we have an actual game to enjoy complain and shitpost about. And to his credit, Fenoxo actually does code. Don't know about Savin though.
 

NODOGAN

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Tell me you're a selfish "lover" without telling me. The service IS the pleasure; one is deriving pleasure vicariously through those being served. There is nothing more intimate and arousing, in my mind, than bringing pleasure to others selflessly; conversely, I find it equally extremely arousing when others please me with no real physical gain for themselves.

It's the thought that counts. Clearly, you don't think, therefore you wouldn't understand.
Oh yes I'm being totally selfish to the pretty pictures and the complex words on the screen, I must be such a terrible lover because CONTEXT is just a myth made up by society and I totally skip through real people with my floating spacebar button same way I skip through optional content in a PORN GAME that's just there to get the player's rock off and cater to each one's fetish (btw that was all sarcasm, seeing the way you think I figured it was best to be clear rather than assume you'd understand, you're welcomed.)
 

harem.king

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Seven, gods who are secretly the most powerful members of an extra-dimensional race that almost destroyed the world and were expelled from it, who then took up the mantle of gods that did exist but were gone by that time (or so they say), and there is nothing really substantial done with it.
Extra dimensional invaders who nearly destroyed the world you say...
why, it sounds quite a lot like the official BBEG. who is an omnibus invader from a hell world.
 
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