VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.12] [Cosy Creator]

[Guilty Proxy]

They're the same people who prefer regular oreos over double stuff.

I prefer to not share my double stuff oreos rather then let other people have them.

 

[Guilty Proxy]

I dunno what to tell you, but a dude/gal that gets hot by necrophilia probably also doesn't understand your disgust for it. I would bet money on it that you have a thing that turns you off that i can't comprehend either. It is what it is, and the dude is not alone in his distaste for it, which probably gets fueled by every Dev shoving it in every single game in existence. Every action creates an opposing reaction of equal force, and all that.

I play pretty much exclusively Harem games, and I always use the polyamory paths when they are offered.
But even I get fed up with devs presuming Lesbian interharem action to be the standard without player choice.
It's about what the action says about the LIs and the lack of agency, more so than the action itself.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[duckydoodoo]

Hey, hey now. The worst bit of an oreo is the stuffing, why the hell would I want more of that? If I could buy just the cookies without the grainy sugar artificial mess in the middle I would.

chocolate teddy grahams, or just chocolate graham crackers. i recommend the teddy grahams cause they are bite size without snapping the cracker and getting crumbs everywhere, and its fun eating animal shaped snacks(i especially enjoyed swappin the heads of gummi bears to make them look more like gummy worms). also chocolate animal crackers, which are hard to find but do exist.

 

[MWPA78]

chocolate teddy grahams, or just chocolate graham crackers. i recommend the teddy grahams cause they are bite size without snapping the cracker and getting crumbs everywhere, and its fun eating animal shaped snacks(i especially enjoyed swappin the heads of gummi bears to make them look more like gummy worms). also chocolate animal crackers, which are hard to find but do exist.

A man of culture.

 

[TKdropemoff]

I can't speak for the other guy, but for me personally, it's not lesbians in general but how forced into "harem" media they've become. Harem is polygamy, but for some reason, people refuse to acknowledge that polyamory and polygamy are different and will reach and make up as many bad faith arguments and excuses as possible just to insert their fetish (lesbian/polyamory/etc.) into said media.

Lesbians on their own? Hot as fuck.

Lesbians made unavoidable in a game that literally advertises itself as polygamy? Not hot at all. (Erm, actually! Just because they eat each other out and make out and are shoving fists inside of each other, it doesn't mean they're lesbian! They could just be doing it for the Mc! It's just a little bit of fun teehee~). Sure, buddy, sure – nice mental gymnastics.

It gets irritating looking for a game or novel of something I like, polygamy, and getting polyamory almost every single time with some guys that have a lesbian/polyamory fetish trying to gaslight me into thinking that I'm the one that's weird for wanting the harem tag to mean actual harem.

It doesn't help that some of the mods are massively problematic and will ban people/remove comments explaining this no matter how politely they're written, power tripping over a pirated game form. Just last week I had a mod remove my posts after a developer lied about a game having lesbian stuff in it, and I was warned for "kinkshaming" when all I did was show in-game images as proof. Like, what?

I know for sure it's not just me who feels this way as you can see the influx of comments asking if Lesbian content will be avoidable, and debating the legitimacy of harem when it's just a lesbian fiesta, especially over the last year.

TLDR: When the hell will the tags be improved on this site.

I couldn't agree more.

Right on the money.

It's pretty simple for me.

When I see tag harem. that's what I am looking for.. Not a lesbo fest with girls catching feelings for eachother, fucking without the MC, or just fucking eachother in general. I don't hate lesbian shit. I use to play FMC games strictly for lesbian routes.. But when it comes to harem, I want it to be MC centric. Simple as that. If it does have lesbian, i will prefer it to be AVOIDABLE/OPTIONAL. So I can get my PURE harem experience that I am looking for. It's not lesbian being the issue. It's mostly lesbian (LACK OF PLAYER AGENCY WITH DEV'S THINKING EVERYONE LOVES LESBIAN SHIT) not being AVOIDABLE in alot of these "harem" games. Also lesbian is boring to me nowadays. That's just my opinion.

This is why we BADLY need the new tag badly that's taking 40 years to to happen.

All in all. People like who they like. Some people judging others for not being into lesbian is kinda lame. It mostly steamed from devs over saturating lesbian content in these games without a CHOICE.. Hell it gets bad man..

Simple as that.

 

[jvbatman]

The day 1 renders were all redone when I removed the old sandbox intro, but that was a long time ago now. Other than that, none of the early content has changed.

This game was a sandbox? How did that work?

 

[shitass1001]

This game was a sandbox? How did that work?

It was originally planned to be a sandbox game, but was changed to VN during development
https://f95zone.to/threads/cosy-cafe-v0-11-cosy-creator.143711/post-12682241

 

[BonkTime]

Yeah, you're probably right. I like having the tags, but there's always the problem of whether the tags are a warning or an enticement. Do you include the "NTR" tag if it is hinted that a LI kissed another guy off screen? If not, you will outrage those who hate NTR. If so, you will disappoint those who like it. The "lesbian" tag is probably the one that most frequently has that problem.

We need tags for tags, or more like variable tags. Where they can at least be like colour coded for if it's a choice and avoidable, or just a part of the game.

chocolate teddy grahams, or just chocolate graham crackers. i recommend the teddy grahams cause they are bite size without snapping the cracker and getting crumbs everywhere, and its fun eating animal shaped snacks(i especially enjoyed swappin the heads of gummi bears to make them look more like gummy worms). also chocolate animal crackers, which are hard to find but do exist.

Huh never heard of them, but will look into them. Not sure if I can get them in Aus.

 

[Karakes]

Ok, replaying the game for the umpteenth time.

Couple of questions that may be already addressed. Does anyone know what Sara's mom said to Sara to get her to invite MC to the party? Im replaying from Day 16, but that made me think of another question, didn't Lucy say something to Sara to make her agree to the spanking and if so was that ever revealed?

The other thing is: Does Mr. Bennett have any other wives outside of the main wife? If so, are they all with him in their apartment? Does Catherine have any other siblings other than the brother we've been told about?

 

[mordred93]

Couple of questions that may be already addressed. Does anyone know what Sara's mom said to Sara to get her to invite MC to the party? Im replaying from Day 16, but that made me think of another question, didn't Lucy say something to Sara to make her agree to the spanking and if so was that ever revealed?

The other thing is: Does Mr. Bennett have any other wives outside of the main wife? If so, are they all with him in their apartment? Does Catherine have any other siblings other than the brother we've been told about?

Yes - Mentioned on Cosy's Discord about what Lily said to Sarah: Lily mentioned how tall and handsome one of Sarah's sisters felt Jack was. This made Sarah jealous as she didn't want to loose the MC to one of her sisters.

Yes - Mentioned on Cosy's Discord what Lucy said to Sarah: Sarah was embarrassed by how she acted at the first King's Game, and asked Lucy to tell her if she was acting too much like a party pooper. Lucy did this in the kitchen with the spanking.

As for the Bennett Family structure: Thus far in the story, we have only heard about the one wife, Mary, and Catherine's older brother. No other family members have been mentioned as of V11.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

In a harem of women, women that like each other (not a guarantee in all harems with petty jealousy and competition for attention driving wedges between some women) is going to occur, and sex between some - not all - of them is also a given.

IMO -- Cosy is approaching this possibility from a very reasonable dev position (direct quote from Sunday, May 11th, 2025):

It's not going to become a common occurrence, and it's not something that most of the girls would do, but I do have one or two scenes planned where a few of the girls perform sex acts on each other while having sex with the MC.

It's only ever gonna come up in the context of threesomes with the MC. For example, he isn't gonna walk in and find the girls having sex without him - they're not lovers with one another in that way, they're lovers with the MC, and are supposed to feel more sisterly towards one another.

So - we either trust Cosy who is telling us the story that brought us here in the first place, or we do not.

I choose to trust Cosy with the full story and all the ways he wants to tell it.

There will be parts of the story that I enjoy more than others - as it is with EVERY story I have ever enjoyed.

I enjoy lesbian sex in a story when it makes sense - and the MC being included in Every potential lesbian encounter makes sense as this is how Cosy says he will tell this part of the story.

What follows is from a very sexy scene with multiple women and the MC.

Spoiler: Lesbian Sex Yes - No

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We each have different tastes and no one person's tastes are better/worse than another's.

Women can hug and hold each other in a BFF/sisterly way that is not sexual - just showing support/caring/happiness/enjoyment etc.

Hugging and holding can transition into a threesome where some of the women experiment with each other and the MC at the same time, like the MC and girl A each sucking a breast of girl B or two women kissing while the MC pleases one orally and the other rides him cowgirl.

Cosy can and should feel free to use the whole range of human interaction that fits his story when telling his story.

I'm here for this story as Cosy tells it, and I have no intention of telling him how to tell that story (even if I think Rachel will require one hell of a redemption arc for me to want the MC to have anything to do with her...).

From incidental to intentional girl-girl touching all the way to lesbian sex in threesomes and moresomes, I trust the girl-girl time will fit the story and I am looking forward to it.

Cheers!!

 

[Karakes]

Yes - Mentioned on Cosy's Discord about what Lily said to Sarah: Lily mentioned how tall and handsome one of Sarah's sisters felt Jack was. This made Sarah jealous as she didn't want to loose the MC to one of her sisters.

Yes - Mentioned on Cosy's Discord what Lucy said to Sarah: Sarah was embarrassed by how she acted at the first King's Game, and asked Lucy to tell her if she was acting too much like a party pooper. Lucy did this in the kitchen with the spanking.

As for the Bennett Family structure: Thus far in the story, we have only heard about the one wife, Mary, and Catherine's older brother. No other family members have been mentioned as of V11.

Wow! Thank you for the response. That does explain a few things in a very interesting way.

The Catherine question came about because obviously Catherine makes it sound like she's living in a shoebox. Obviously that could be a huge apartment by most standards and there's plenty of room for all potential wives and heirs.

 

[mordred93]

The Catherine question came about because obviously Catherine makes it sound like she's living in a shoebox. Obviously that could be a huge apartment by most standards and there's plenty of room for all potential wives and heirs.

Join the Discord server, and you might find some more answers to these and other questions on some of the spoiler channels. Cosy does drop some answers every now and again, plus insight into his thought processes.

 

[TBone9]

Hey, hey now. The worst bit of an oreo is the stuffing, why the hell would I want more of that? If I could buy just the cookies without the grainy sugar artificial mess in the middle I would.

I used to scrape the filling off and eat it, then put vanilla ice cream between the cookies and have sort of a mini-ice cream sandwich. If you don't like the filling and could get the cookies by themselves, this seems like a great alternative for you.

Yeah, you're probably right. I like having the tags, but there's always the problem of whether the tags are a warning or an enticement. Do you include the "NTR" tag if it is hinted that a LI kissed another guy off screen? If not, you will outrage those who hate NTR. If so, you will disappoint those who like it. The "lesbian" tag is probably the one that most frequently has that problem.

Understood, probably no matter which way you go with the tags in this situation, you would have to explain it in the dev notes. Of course, then you have to hope that people actually read the dev notes, and if they do, that knowing it in advance will actually stop them from complaining afterward. After all my time spent reading game threads here and elsewhere, I know just how unlikely this is.

 

[KSW2]

hows the next update coming along? it's been a while can't wait for it!

 

[HiHaHo]

hows the next update coming along? it's been a while can't wait for it!

we've had the "final" dev log for the next update yesterday,that means its right around the cornor

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Hey guys, welcome to the final dev log before the release of version 0.12!

I've had a very productive couple of weeks, completing a further 400 renders, which brings the total so far up to around 2,000. Meaning this update has already smashed the old record of 1900, and there's a good 200ish yet to go!

I mentioned a few dev logs ago that I'd finished the animation for the update... Well, it turns out that I'd completely forgotten about a rather long animated scene later in the update. So I've also completed a further 30 animations, bringing the total for the update up to 44.

So with all that in mind, I'm now happy to report that I'm nearing the end! I'm currently in the process of rendering the last (extremely long) scene, and then it's on to putting all of the pieces together and making it actually playable. The tentative release date of the 24th that I mentioned previously is now set in stone - barring unforeseen disaster it should be quite a comfortable target to hit.

I must say, now that the release date is growing close, I'm getting pretty excited about this one! The second day in the update (it's a 2 day update this time) is a little shorter, but I struggled picking a preview render for this dev log just because it's so filled with spoilers, and some of them look really good!

In other update related news: In addition to the usual full game downloads that all of the previous updates have been released as, I'm working on putting together a patch version for PC and linux this time, which will mean that (if you want to) you should only need to download the new content and then drop it into your existing files. I haven't done this before so it'll be experimental, but I think it should work fine - I'll be using any of you that choose this option as guinea pigs this time!

And that about does it for this dev log. The next time I speak to you all should be on the 24th with the update release post, so until then, thank you all for your support as always!

- Cosy Creator

 

[MalLiz]

I used to scrape the filling off and eat it, then put vanilla ice cream between the cookies and have sort of a mini-ice cream sandwich. If you don't like the filling and could get the cookies by themselves, this seems like a great alternative for you.

...Fry, is that you? You're back in the past again?

-Mal

 

[Konrad Simon]

I love how different we all are! I can't conceive of not liking threesomes. Only thing better than two girls is two slave girls. Only managed a scene like that twice in my life, and I'm almost 70, but oh the happy memories!

As for if and to what degree there is sensual or sexual contact between members of the harem, well, ideally, there is exactly as much the dominant permits and no more. For me, the idea of hearing, "Master, may I play with your other slave when you aren't around?" is just hot, and I'm one of those who doesn't get off on girl-girl scenes. But the implied control in being asked for permission is sexy as hell.

But in this, too, I trust the dev.

 

[wiseold6996]

[/QUOTE]
It would works if mc asks them to do it or the girls asks for his permission. Like we can order one of the girls to cum and spit swapping with another girl.
Or couple of girls can ask for permission to engage in some light foreplay to entertain the mc.

I love how different we all are! I can't conceive of not liking threesomes. Only thing better than two girls is two slave girls. Only managed a scene like that twice in my life, and I'm almost 70, but oh the happy memories!

As for if and to what degree there is sensual or sexual contact between members of the harem, well, ideally, there is exactly as much the dominant permits and no more. For me, the idea of hearing, "Master, may I play with your other slave when you aren't around?" is just hot, and I'm one of those who doesn't get off on girl-girl scenes. But the implied control in being asked for permission is sexy as hell.

But in this, too, I trust the dev.

70? Fucking hell...

 

[wiseold6996]

Yes. Optional, as in it won't even happen if you choose no. And at the moment I only have a single scene planned that would actually involve it anyway, so it's not gonna be a big thing.


This, with the exception of maledom and bdsm stuff (which won't get super hardcore) - they're core themes so won't be optional.

I wonder what non- vanilla fetish will added more which are going to optional. I think so far only footjob and lesbian scenes are added. Maybe hardcore maledom and bdsm?