VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.13.1 EA] [Cosy Creator]

[Daermon420]

The stalker thing is a bit of an exaggeration. It only happened once, and it wasn't serious. Hating his mother for that is silly. Could that still be called stalking? Legally, I don't think so.

It was engineered to scare the shit out of Sarah so she'd get closer to the MC. If that hadn't happened immediately as it did I have no doubt it would have continued until she was scared enough to ask for his help. Doing that to your own daughter is downright manipulative and borderline gross. Sarah has every right to hate her father for that. Especially since it was done simply as a power play to gain more influence over the other families. It showed he doesn't give a flying fuck about his kid, only about his own status. And if Lily sides with the father, Sarah has every right to also hate her.

 

[Hfap5]

It was engineered to scare the shit out of Sarah so she'd get closer to the MC. If that hadn't happened immediately as it did I have no doubt it would have continued until she was scared enough to ask for his help. Doing that to your own daughter is downright manipulative and borderline gross. Sarah has every right to hate her father for that. Especially since it was done simply as a power play to gain more influence over the other families. It showed he doesn't give a flying fuck about his kid, only about his own status. And if Lily sides with the father, Sarah has every right to also hate her.

But there's no point in hating someone for a "would have." Besides, that plan wasn't anything serious; it was just for xxx to sit in a corner doing nothing. Besides, in this story, the background of the founding families isn't simple, and the father had his reasons, and we'll soon find out. Not even the cat hates her father that much, and she was manipulated into doing something bad. I hope the protagonist acts calmly and doesn't get carried away by the idea of agreeing with the girl.

 

[Daermon420]

But there's no point in hating someone for a "would have." Besides, that plan wasn't anything serious; it was just for xxx to sit in a corner doing nothing. Besides, in this story, the background of the founding families isn't simple, and the father had his reasons, and we'll soon find out. Not even the cat hates her father that much, and she was manipulated into doing something bad. I hope the protagonist acts calmly and doesn't get carried away by the idea of agreeing with the girl.

No, it wasn't for a guy to just sit there doing nothing. It was to scare the shit out of Sarah, then take secret photos afterwards to post to social media. Simultaneously scaring and humiliating the girl. All orchestrated by her own father for christs sake, someone you're supposed to be able to implicitly trust. If that's okay behavior to you, you've got a pretty twisted worldview.

And Akatsuki absolutely does actively dislike her father for what he made her do. In case you hadn't noticed, when the MC told her she had to choose between them Akatsuki immediately chose the MC and cut off all contact with her father after. And in that situation it wasn't even anything bad done to Akatsuki, but to the MC. What Sarahs father did actively targeted her, and succeeded in scaring the living shit out of the girl.

 

[Skep-tiker]

Why did the MC suddenly start loving two of Lucy's stalkers and a girl who despised him? Four girls in that harem were "bad" at first, but the romance developed as the story progressed and everyone knew each other, and their backstory became known. It's probably the same with Rachel.

That would be the lamest thing ever.

 

[Wagwan1891]

But there's no point in hating someone for a "would have."

Sorry but that could be one of the dumber things I've ever read on this forum.

So if someone would have tried to kill you but the cops interrupted him, no point in hating the guy for wanting you dead, right?

Your girl wanted to cheat on you but you got home early and so she aborted her plan, totally fine.

Your mom wanted to sell you for a dime but your dad took her to court to get custody before it could happen, all good mom I don't hate you because of a silly little "would have" scenario.

Jeez..

 

[mordred93]

Well, as Hannah has de facto a fiance, i dunno if this still holds up

Hannah has a de facto fiance, whom she is not committed to, and he is definitely not committed to her. Also, their engagement was not supposed to be announced until after school was in May/June. So at this point, you have an arranged marriage, which, one party is flaunting (with Mika), and the other doesn't want it and is actively seeking ways to end it. This isn't a committed relationship.

 

[Elduriel]

The stalker thing is a bit of an exaggeration. It only happened once, and it wasn't serious. Hating his mother for that is silly.

well, Sarah doesn't know if mommy dearest was in on it or no. And she isn't doing a bang up job trying to get to the bottom of it. So Sarah's reaction is completely understandable. And even if she finds out the truth about her husband, what is she going to do to mend fences? Nothing she can really do. She certainly won't go against hubby, at least I don't think she has it in her. It was made clear plenty that she doesn't care much about her children either. So fuck her and her family.

 

[mordred93]

Why did the MC suddenly start loving two of Lucy's stalkers and a girl who despised him? Four girls in that harem were "bad" at first, but the romance developed as the story progressed and everyone knew each other, and their backstory became known. It's probably the same with Rachel.

While I wouldn't say that Lucy had stalkers, maybe bullies. However if you read the words in day 3, you see Mika said most of it, and Vicky threw insults at Mika. Hannah didn't say anything, and Catherine treated everyone like they were beneath her. So your point being they were bad really doesn't hold water. Vicky wasn't all bad, and easily turned around when her situation improved, the other girls are working on their deeper issues, but doing better. Rachel is the only girl that actively has attempted to cause the MC (or his girls) harm. I am not saying she is irredeemable, but she has a long way to go to be redeemed. I enjoy the story, so I cannot wait for it to happen.

 

[MWPA78]

While Sarah's father is bad for his actions with the stalker, Lily has nothing to do with it and its ok that she is hesitant to go against her husband. Doesn't make her complicit. She seems to be written as a mother who does care about her daughter, but more so about her duty to her husband which makes her act in less than ideal ways towards Sarah.

I think the stalker arc was a bit blown up for advancing MC and Sarah's relationship.

Hannah has a de facto fiance, whom she is not committed to, and he is definitely not committed to her. Also, their engagement was not supposed to be announced until after school was in May/June. So at this point, you have an arranged marriage, which, one party is flaunting (with Mika), and the other doesn't want it and is actively seeking ways to end it. This isn't a committed relationship.

Tbf, fidelity is for females in the founding families, and arranged marriages the norm. From the frame of the game/founding families, Hannah is cheating - or almost.

 

[shitass1001]

...But getting back to Lily's wilful ignorance: I honestly don't know what kind of redemption arc we could even hope to see for her, because to be perfectly frank, I have a bit of a strong dislike for people blithely ignoring the evidence of a problematic situation when confronted with such. Wilful ignorance is just... Plain wrong, as I see it.

I don't think its so black and white. Lily not looking into the photo is wrong, yes, but lets get real, this isn't her daughter telling her to do this. Its a guy Sarah has only known for just under a month, her for less time, it makes sense she would be defensive. She isn't being ignorant out of malice, its out of fear.
This is why I think Lily's redemption would have to start with Sarah saying something, getting angry and leaving.

 

[Lurker452]

Good update. I still don't have any interest in the teacher, but I loved Sarah and Catherine's content.

 

[MalLiz]

Welp! I have just finished all of v0.12 after doing yet another full playthrough from the start (I just couldn't help myself, I needed to have the full lovey dovey experience again!) But now that I am all done and caught up, I feel like I am left with a severe case of "wholesome yet raunchy story blueballs."

I guess I will just have to find some other wholesome AVNs on here that can help distract me until the next update for this one comes out. I mean, there has to be at least a few other games out there that are similar to Cosy Cafe, right? (Also, please note that I'm absolutely not asking for game recommendations. I'm essentially just "musing out loud" about how this niche is so damn...niche.)

...And yes, I could theoretically just replay this one another time... But I think I would rather save that for "later" when I have had time to cool off from the game a bit. I absolutely would not want to get burnt out on Cosy Cafe! No sir-ee!

Edit: On an unrelated note, I am starting to feel like Rachel's redemption arc is soon going to bear fruit. I'd bet (figuratively speaking) that we will see her making some serious changes and improvements with the MC in the next few updates. I don't know why but I am feeling more and more sympathetic for her. And I mean her, not her obviously demented "feminazi" bullshit crusade.

-Mal

 

[hameleona]

There are plenty of games with wholesome content in them. But those who are entirely wholesome stuff only are few and far between. Part of it is because they are kinda hard to write - not every writer can keep the sunshine and roses non-stop (I know I can't do it for the life of me). Another part of it is that they tend to get stale as fuck from one point onward.

Cosy is doing a great job of keeping it wholesome, keep some tension in the story and not letting it get stale. Not many people can do that.

 

[Rogue Reaper]

Well, as Hannah has de facto a fiance, i dunno if this still holds up

Hannah has a de facto fiance, whom she is not committed to, and he is definitely not committed to her. Also, their engagement was not supposed to be announced until after school was in May/June. So at this point, you have an arranged marriage, which, one party is flaunting (with Mika), and the other doesn't want it and is actively seeking ways to end it. This isn't a committed relationship.

Tbf, fidelity is for females in the founding families, and arranged marriages the norm. From the frame of the game/founding families, Hannah is cheating - or almost.

Personally I don't see Hannah's as cheating, since she doesn't want anything to do with Brian in the first place..

And we haven't really done anything with her anyway..

While technically Spanking is inherently sexual, depending on the girl, it doesn't really count imo in this context..

 

[hameleona]

And we haven't really done anything with her anyway..

While technically Spanking is inherently sexual, depending on the girl, it doesn't really count imo in this context..

We have done a bit with her. Getting nudes, spanking, fondling... like, trough the years I've learned My definition of cheating is no where near as broad as most peoples, but if we assume she is in a relationship with Brain - yeah, she is cheating on him. Systemically.

 

[MWPA78]

Personally I don't see Hannah's as cheating, since she doesn't want anything to do with Brian in the first place..

Arranged marriage as it is shown in the founding families doesn't really care if the female wants to or not (iirc). And even if her wishes would matter, she seemingly has agreed to the betrothal herself - unlike Alison. Hannah is probably the most interesting LI for me so far, especially because these very old values of duty to her father and family basically never come up in any VN, but if I were Brian I'd definitely felt cheated by her. And tbh, I kinda hope that she keeps these sets of values she has in the beginning, even if she breaks them once to get with MC - I find that enticing and refreshing in a girl. After all these loose hoes in 1001 games lol...

But I guess the plan currently is to form an alliance with Hannah's father and get him to break up the betrothal so she can marry MC, which I find the best plan of them all, since I think Hannah's father is pretty based.

 

[Cosy Creator]

We have done a bit with her. Getting nudes, spanking, fondling... like, trough the years I've learned My definition of cheating is no where near as broad as most peoples, but if we assume she is in a relationship with Brain - yeah, she is cheating on him. Systemically.

Personally I think you have to stretch the definition of "relationship" beyond breaking point to make that work. Just going by the things that have been revealed so far: neither of them care about the other (Hannah confirmed this in the MC's office), they don't spend any free time together (Hannah spends all her time at the cafe now and Brian doesn't seem to have noticed), and they have never had any physical contact (Hannah says she rejected his attempt). The betrothal is just a political arrangement made by other people that hasn't come into effect yet.

 

[hameleona]

Hannah spends all her time at the cafe now and Brian doesn't seem to have noticed

That's gonna be a fun moment. Personally I can't wait to see his reaction!

 

[BViking]

Brian be like: Victoria is mine, she just doesn't know it yet.
MC be like: Yoink.
Brian be like: Hannah is mine, our parents arranged for us to be engaged.
MC be like: Don't mind if I do.

 

[jI11jaCksjAkk]

That's gonna be a fun moment. Personally I can't wait to see his reaction!

I'm not so sure it will be all that fun. We know he probably won't do anything stupid when everyone is watching, but I'm worried that he could easily pay somebody to vandalize the restaurant (think Sam's restaurant in Ted Lasso) during the school day when he has a solid alibi. While MC is a FF by name, he doesn't have the financial resources to rebuild easily if serious damege were to be done, and even if he did the delay of an extended closure would drop income to 0 and ruin all the work they've done to build up a repeat-customer base. New restaurants are one of the most fragile kinds of business, and it doesn't take much to derail them.

Hopefully some of that paperwork MC is always working on is keeping a current insurance policy. Also hoping MC is smart enough to anticipate some kind of indirect retaliation - e.g., not against his person and (hopefully) not againstLucy or any of the others - and plan accordingly. Security cameras and/or very publicly bringing someone in (maybe through the organized-crime brother) to be on-property to discourage that kind of retaliation. They are hosting the next meeting, so maybe bringing in a bunch of "goons" and having them be very visible during the meeting would send that message effectively.

Also, I really don't think fucking Sarah's mom would end well

It would definitely be high-risk. Lorena Bobbitt wasn't too tall either...

But...if she were to dig into the photo she might find evidence of far worse things too...and eventually end up in the harem.