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danb35

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In my eyes it made sense kitty got picked up first. She is way more forward and direct in what she wants
True, but after her betrayal, MC was IMO too quick to forgive her and bring her in. Not at all bothered he did it, but just thought it was a little too quick on both counts.
 
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Konrad Simon

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True, but after her betrayal, MC was IMO too quick to forgive her and bring her in. Not at all bothered he did it, but just thought it was a little too quick on both counts.
A perfectly valid opinion with which I disagree. For me, the key question is simply: Was her remorse genuine? MC thought it was, and so did I. I think under those conditions forgiveness after punishment is exactly right. But this is one of those subjective things; the feeling of it worked for me, it didn't for you. Legit.
 

hameleona

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I didn't get the feeling the MC gave much of a fuck about the "betrayal" per se. I'm pretty sure he says something in the line of "yeah, I guessed it was about my grandfather recopies". He cared about her and how she felt about him, mostly because he was pretty sure it wasn't an act.
 

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Plus, Rachel has a rape/abuse fetish and probably likes being dominated (according to some old posts and notes). A very embarrassing fetish to have, given her public character. On the other hand, maybe those old notes don't hold anymore and Rachel now has a new backstory and fetish.
it's obvious she wants to be dominate by a man but she was bought by the current brainwash feminist like IRL
and MC wont feel any achievement dominating Rachel anyway
does anyone seriously would feel proud dominating a 403pet?

it's a different category if it's Catherine we're talking here, pinning and taming a haughty princess is much more fun
unless, Cosy goes around and make Rachel actually MC fourth or fifth cousins, then it's a different story altogether
after all, if there's a Dom in the family, there's always a Sub
 
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Karakes

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In my eyes it made sense kitty got picked up first. She is way more forward and direct in what she wants as opposed to Sarah, who's the tsundere in the story. I really love the dynamic and development between MC and Sarah tho, far more than Lucy's imho.
As far as LI's go, Lucy is the one who I can't place the easiest. Attitude and personality is nearly top tier. Smart, shy, and yet simultaneously adventurous sexually are all top tier traits. Looks are near the bottom, she's got the most unorthodox facial features. Tits are obviously big and a decent butt, though hips are lacking. But i think her wanting to please the MC too much that might be the part that makes her so hard to tier. Girl that only values MC's wants/needs/desires vs. girl that seems so passive. I dunno, it might be a bad explanation, but the plot seems to happen to her, not because of her?
 

danb35

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Lucy is the one who I can't place the easiest.
She's at the top for me, though I think Sarah is challenging her (and I say that not yet having reached the end of this update). As you say, attitude and personality are fantastic; she's written to be instantly lovable, and it works for me. I'd call her looks "cute"--and very much so--rather than "pretty" or "hot." Big tits don't do anything for me; Kitty or Catherine or even Rachel are closer to my preference in that regard (though I otherwise can't stand Rachel). But I guess "good enough" looks, combined with a great personality, are enough to put her at the top of my list.
 

RegNiss666

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fun unless, Cosy goes around and make Rachel actually MC fourth or fifth cousins, then it's a different story altogether
after all, if there's a Dom in the family, there's always a Sub
Insanely bonkers and not at all factual theory: Rachel is actually MC's cousin, as she is also the MC's grandfather's descendent. The reason she is so bitter towards men and a staunch feminist, is because Rachel's mother resents the fact that she didn't have a father, because MC's grandfather left the town after the whole scandal/plot to drive him away, and therefore poisoned her daughter's mind against men.
 

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Insanely bonkers and not at all factual theory: Rachel is actually MC's cousin, as she is also the MC's grandfather's descendent. The reason she is so bitter towards men and a staunch feminist, is because Rachel's mother resents the fact that she didn't have a father, because MC's grandfather left the town after the whole scandal/plot to drive him away, and therefore poisoned her daughter's mind against men.
i had a similar thought actually. rachel being a distant cousin/half-sister because of the multiple wives thing, but what weve been told so far is that the MCs grandfather was "ruined" because his wives left him. as for how that happened we dont know all the details (yet?) but its possible that gloria manipulated one or more of the wives into thinking badly of the MCs grandfather. after all everyone who mentions gloria so far has said shes a ruthless shark. like you said though this is all purely speculation based on the little information we do have. i do love speculating about this game though theres so much going on :giggle:
 

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Insanely bonkers and not at all factual theory: Rachel is actually MC's cousin, as she is also the MC's grandfather's descendent. The reason she is so bitter towards men and a staunch feminist, is because Rachel's mother resents the fact that she didn't have a father, because MC's grandfather left the town after the whole scandal/plot to drive him away, and therefore poisoned her daughter's mind against men.
Your idea has a lot of potential! How about this:

At some point, the MC has a lucid dream in which he time travels to the past and becomes a friend of his grandfather who really existed. Something like that is a good idea anyway because it gives us a flashback that makes past events less abstract for us.

In his dream the MC meets Rachel's grandmother, who is known to have had only a single child, and he has a chance to sleep with her. At this point we have an actual choice between two overt incest-free options and a secret third and fourth one that only happen in the minds of incest-loving players:
  1. If the grandfather's friend sleeps with Rachel's grandmother, then this friend becomes Rachel's grandfather and MC and Rachel are not related.
  2. Otherwise MC's grandfather also becomes Rachel's grandfather, making MC and Rachel cousins. Knowing that, MC excludes Rachel from the harem before ever having sex with her, and finds a good alternative solution for her.
  3. (only in players' minds) Like 1, but thinking of MC actually time traveling and therefore being Rachel's grandfather. MC has his own granddaughter in his harem.
  4. (only in players' minds) Like 1, but thinking of the dream as not conveying some deeper truth about the past as MC thinks. MC's grandfather is also Rachel's grandfather. MC and Rachel are cousins, even if MC doesn't believe it, or pretends he doesn't believe it.
 
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Lucy must be protected at all cost.
This world of ours is strange and complex. It has many moving parts. And all of them, moving or not are but like plates balanced upon a spiderweb of sticks all balanced on each other still like an endlessly recursive house of cards. And yet, no matter how unstable it seems, no matter how hard the world shakes or how fast the cold winds blow it does not fall apart, for it is held up by a small number of universal truths.

This statement is one of them.
 

briansanders

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For me both the main girls Lucy and Victoria are the best in terms of what they bring to the harem.

Lucy is the pillar that brings the group together while Victoria brings the much needed energy and life into the group. Like MC feels his life is much better with Lucy and Victoria at the centre of it

Eagerly waiting for their double dates in the next to next update
 

Sayurii

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As far as LI's go, Lucy is the one who I can't place the easiest. Attitude and personality is nearly top tier. Smart, shy, and yet simultaneously adventurous sexually are all top tier traits. Looks are near the bottom, she's got the most unorthodox facial features. Tits are obviously big and a decent butt, though hips are lacking. But i think her wanting to please the MC too much that might be the part that makes her so hard to tier. Girl that only values MC's wants/needs/desires vs. girl that seems so passive. I dunno, it might be a bad explanation, but the plot seems to happen to her, not because of her?
Lucy is that trusty sidekick in a heroes story. Like batman and robin, supportive and there for mc when she needs to be. Her need to pleasure MC comes from the fact that he saved her, she mentions it a few times so i don't think the unquestioning loyalty is misplaced.
 

briansanders

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So if the next update will be a 2 day update ryt?? So, Saturday and Sunday

If I am not wrong these would be the main events of the next update:
MC meeting Harriet
Alison date on Sunday
and the Cosplay competition for customers, I think this is how Annabelle will become one of the waitresses( I hope her story is somewhat on the lines of actually liking MC when she saw him at the party and not some political bs)

Edit: Akatsuki Date Night on Saturday
 
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