you do know the old saying about not sticking your dick in crazy ,.. right
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That last part really intrigues me. I am British, and the characters feel perfectly in-keeping with British people to me. In what way do you think they don't?I would never presume to deprive someone of their opinion or their right to have one, but when someone's opinion is just plainly indicative that they are diametrically opposed to whatever they are indulging in, well... It sort of invalidates their perspective, doesn't it? I am no fan of hardcore rape and snuff games, for instance, so with that in mind: I just do not play them. Of course, if others want to get their freak on with that stuff, I say go nuts, you magnificent perverts! (Lord knows I could never judge others for their weird kinks given my own, ah, "exotic tastes..."
...But when someone actively attempts to engage with a game (or just any content or activity, really) that is just plainly and obviously not for them, it just seems downright fucking stupid to then complain about it. Again, and speaking only for myself here, I would never go to a sports bar and then complain that the place and the people there are all too focussed on watching sports and getting drunk, simply because I personally don't enjoy sports nor alcohol.
And just to disabuse some preconceived notions here: I am not mindlessly fanboying over this game. I never do that sort of thing. After all, it just betrays an inability to see things from a broader perspective. I mean, sure, I love this game, but I'm not blind to its various...imperfections, let's call them.
The insistence on a very "UK-ish" setting just sort of weirds me out at times, given that literally none of the characters act in a very British sort of way. And then there was that weird exactitude with Catherine's debt after she tried to pay for everyone's food... That stuff feels really odd to me overall.
-Mal
I'll first have to admit that I only personally know one British person on any really deep level, so I am admittedly lacking for a broader variety of samples, if you know what I mean? But that specific person in question, namely my counterpart Liz, agrees with me that none of the characters seem all that British to her, either. (Although...she hasn't actually played the game, only sat in on me playing it.)
i agree with this ..... its like some people have trouble reading and understand pretty simple english
Sadly, several people do. Especially non-native English speakers. However, people who are primarily English speakers, yeah, that is a shame. Its like people who buy stuff on Amazon. Description says "This is meant for a 2020 Ford F-150" and complain it does fit their 1999 Dodge Ram.i agree with this ..... its like some people have trouble reading and understand pretty simple english
I cannot/wont comment on the British piece (as I am not British). However on the food, yeah, so far there are not foods which are traditionally British, and that is probably down to the assets in HS2. Spaghetti, Hamburgers, Pancakes, Steaks, Salads are not traditionally British (though may be through modern globalism). However, can be served in a pub/cafe as they are quick and to cook, and easy to assemble. Since this is not a "fine dining" establishment, those kinds of foods are not traditionally served. A burger can be cooked good, and a burger can be cooked excellent. Add a little sauce (like a honey oriental chili mixture) so that you don't put ketchup on it. That is maybe how the MC is making things good with his cooking expertise (that and knowing how to make a few patties, and spice them). MC wants to get good, and have better food on the menu. That comes with his training and desires. I would expect other items on the menu when that point comes. That might be the point of the higher end cooking. You can have mundane food, but add a little to it, and make it great, and consistent. If I could find a place that made a great, consistent burger, I would frequent there often.I'll first have to admit that I only personally know one British person on any really deep level, so I am admittedly lacking for a broader variety of samples, if you know what I mean? But that specific person in question, namely my counterpart Liz, agrees with me that none of the characters seem all that British to her, either. (Although...she hasn't actually played the game, only sat in on me playing it.)
I suppose there is no really strong "sense of national bias" in their mannerisms and the like. It could be that they are after all just characters in a game, which then creates a sense of "dehumanisation" in a way... But then again, if that was solely the case, I doubt I (or anyone, really) would or even could connect with them as vividly as this. Maybe it is just my lack of experience with Brits on a deeper level, so to speak, but I just do not get that sort of feeling with them. I cannot really put into words why I feel that way.
I mean, I guess the one thing I could reasonably point to and say "This is absolutely not in line with current British culture." about would be the food. I have to give a fair warning here that this is some seriously heavy bias on my part, but my real life experience with British food has been entirely unlike what you see in this game: Greasy, often overcooked and under-seasoned, and almost always smothered in some disgusting gravy... Fucking yuck, mate!
So this is the one definitive thing I could point to and say that it absolutely does not add up. Granted, the Fletchers (both grandpa and MC) have a love of cooking and fine cuisine that would probably be rare in any culture today, and there are certainly more than enough British chefs that actually do know how to cook, but it still feels just a bit "out of place" to see such heavy emphasis on "higher end" food in what's supposedly a British society.
-Mal
I'm really surprised. I wouldn't say Cosy Café comes over as particularly British. The characters don't stand out as not British but I wouldn't say they are definitely British either. But I thought that was the point to appeal to as many people as possible. Some VN's do feels very British such as Cocklemouth Village also about opening a (northern English) takeaway restaurant / café. It's nowhere near as good as Cosy Café but its very, very British in style and looks. Best Friends is very English, probably the most British VN I have read. Defending Lydia Collyer is southern English (London), Dragon of Calon Valley is definitely Welsh, The Selkie is supposed to be very Scottish but I haven't read it as its not my type of story but I never got any of this from Cosy Café which is one of my favourite VN's.
Yeah, I definitely don't play up the Britishness, and it's not actually supposed to be set in the UK specifically. I usually say it's set in a UK-flavoured fictional world, since the whole Founding Family and harem things couldn't really exist as they're written in reality. That's probably why MalLiz has the impression he mentioned in the original post, I'd just never considered it going so far as the characters feeling unbritish.
You are correct on all counts. I will tell you how MC does burgers--the secret burger recipe of Cozy Cafe. Ready?
Then I think you getting it right. I would say its set in a fictional western world with western European morals and values but with a strong nod to Japanese 'cultural' ideas. The overriding theme of the MC and his harem is probably fairness in action and deed. That is the traditionally British value but is eroding at the moment.
I'm American, so my relatives were, at one time, British ...
You mean where the pound is spoken but it's all dollar dollar bills y'all?yeah i would say the money part of the game gives the British part away
yup ..You mean where the pound is spoken but it's all dollar dollar bills y'all?
and yes, I know this is a limitation with HS
kinda gave away the whole british thing
