VN Ren'Py Cosy Cafe [v0.13.1 Public] [Cosy Creator]

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Hey guys, time for a super short dev log!

I don't have much to report this time as I've mostly just been writing the next update since the last dev log. It's not quite done yet, though I am nearing the end now, so I should be onto the rendering by the next dev log.

I am, however, far enough in to give you my usual very brief early teaser: this one is gonna be a monumental update! I haven't done one quite like this before, so I'm very excited for it - there's a lot happening story wise, and a tonne of fun/emotional character moments. Especially with Vicky and Lucy, who some of you have been wanting more from recently... I think that's suitably vague, hopefully I haven't given anything away with that!

So that about does it for the dev log section. However, today I happened to hold a little event on the CC discord server where I took requests for custom render ideas from people. I'm really happy with how they turned out, so I thought I'd share them here. All in all there are 41 renders between 8 sets, so too many to attach individually, but you can download all of them in 4k here:

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I had a lot of fun making some of these, so I hope you enjoy them!

I'll speak to you again in a couple of week, so until next time, thanks for your support as always!

- Cosy Creator

I know those custom renders are for fun, but I've been actually expecting something like the Lucy gardening ones.

I hope she gets her garden at some point in the game.

 

[NoiVul]

Vicky yes. The sub/dom thing has barely been touched, and any development of her personality would be great. But Lucy is inherently a pretty uncomplicated soul, she really doesn't need much dramatic development or more animations. (for now) I'm a little concerned about the static/repetitive nature of the same three girls always being in his bed. That could be built upon and improved.

For the future of the game, I'd honestly prefer that he develop the original 3 girls with mostly non-animated scenes and interactions, and focus the more time consuming animation work on newer girls.

The secretary Allison, the uncooperative "twins," the little terrorist Rachel, will need a lot of time to match the development that other characters already have. Fortunately, all 3 of these have a lot of inherently kinky possibilities.

 

[blackdeath1988]

Who are the uncooperative "twins" is that Hannh and Cat?

 

[DangDing]

Just recently finished reading this VN. Although the story is interesting, I find Alison's plan is quite flawed. From my understanding, she wants to Fletcher to marry Hanna to save her sister and ally with the Gilbert family. Gilbert wants to counter Hamilton's influence, so he has Hanna engaged to Russel, despite of their reputation. So, if their engagement is cancelled, their alliance will dissolve, and at same time, the newly formed alliance of Fletcher/Gilbert will definitely displease Hamilton, who basically owns Bennett family. Then, Hamilton can just send Catherine to marry into the Russels and ally with them. Fletcher and Gilbert would be basically fucked by being out voted 3 to 2. Therefore, either Alison is not as competent as she think she is or she's hiding something.

Also, Catherine is right. Fletcher's best play is to marry her first to form an alliance between their families. Hamilton will be pleased, at least in the short term, since he'll think he secures 3 votes. Then, Fletcher can convince Gilbert to let Hanna marry him. Better yet, have Gilbert take over Bennet's debt from Hamilton, since Gilbert is the one that causes Bennet's downfall. If he's truly "honorable," he should take the responsbility of rebulding the family and repair their relationship. Of course, this will piss off Hamilton, but he'll have to remain neutral, otherwise he'll just be out voted. Or Fletcher can just marry Sarah as third to smooth things out with him.

The worst choice is Fletcher being stubborn and say "Screw you guys!" and marry Lucy or Vicky first. Then, he'll get out voted 4 to 1, since he'll immediately lose respect from all 4 families. I know this is kinetic novel, but I kinda want to see this as an instant game-over choice for good laugh.

 

[maxthruster]

And again, the story itself is more run of the mill and bland and far too repeative daily other than a minor event here and there.

While your original message was, to borrow your own words, an honest crock of horse shit, and your insistence on peppering your speech with outdated English makes you come across like a pompous windbag,I will say that you've made one genuinely cogent point in regards to the daily progression. It does get repetitive, and it does feature lots of scenes where nothing special happens.

Which is the point.

The game is meant to have a slow, pensive pace to it. To show a man who desperately wants to live an ordinary life building himself up, forming relationships, and working hard to accomplish his dream of having his own restaurant. This isn't a story about a grand adventure, about defeating an evil emperor or solving one of life's great mysteries or discovering a whole new world. It's just a guy.

Even with all that said, it isn't always executed well. The game obviously needs to take some liberties of logic to make the porn aspects work, and the Founding Family stuff to counterbalance the daily monotony. I certainly do think it could've been paced better if it was daily for a couple weeks and then began to skip a little, a few days here and a week there, to help space these events out chronologically. I can totally see why the repetition isn't your cup of tea, because it's not always mine either.

But it's what makes the game. It's the daily, domestic life. The comfort of knowing this story is(for the most part) grounded and simple and slow. It's the little, nuanced interactions with each girl. It's the day-to-day shit that really makes it so sweet and peaceful and, well, cozy.

If that isn't your cup of tea, so be it. Everyone's got their own preferences. But your complaint essentially amounted to "this game is shit because it does what it's supposed to do well and I don't like what it's supposed to do." It's like playing Minecraft and complaining that it's not Call of Duty. Like... yeah, obviously it's not. It's not supposed to be. That doesn't mean Minecraft is shit, it just means you prefer Call of Duty. And that's okay.

 

[jvbatman]

Just recently finished reading this VN. Although the story is interesting, I find Alison's plan is quite flawed. From my understanding, she wants to Fletcher to marry Hanna to save her sister and ally with the Gilbert family. Gilbert wants to counter Hamilton's influence, so he has Hanna engaged to Russel, despite of their reputation. So, if their engagement is cancelled, their alliance will dissolve, and at same time, the newly formed alliance of Fletcher/Gilbert will definitely displease Hamilton, who basically owns Bennett family. Then, Hamilton can just send Catherine to marry into the Russels and ally with them. Fletcher and Gilbert would be basically fucked by being out voted 3 to 2. Therefore, either Alison is not as competent as she think she is or she's hiding something.

Also, Catherine is right. Fletcher's best play is to marry her first to form an alliance between their families. Hamilton will be pleased, at least in the short term, since he'll think he secures 3 votes. Then, Fletcher can convince Gilbert to let Hanna marry him. Better yet, have Gilbert take over Bennet's debt from Hamilton, since Gilbert is the one that causes Bennet's downfall. If he's truly "honorable," he should take the responsbility of rebulding the family and repair their relationship. Of course, this will piss off Hamilton, but he'll have to remain neutral, otherwise he'll just be out voted. Or Fletcher can just marry Sarah as third to smooth things out with him.

The worst choice is Fletcher being stubborn and say "Screw you guys!" and marry Lucy or Vicky first. Then, he'll get out voted 4 to 1, since he'll immediately lose respect from all 4 families. I know this is kinetic novel, but I kinda want to see this as an instant game-over choice for good laugh.

Gloria isn't about to bow down to Hamilton because he threw a Bennett at her. All the families are already all married to each other. That wouldn't suddenly tie those two together.

 

[S1nsational]

Just recently finished reading this VN. Although the story is interesting, I find Alison's plan is quite flawed. From my understanding, she wants to Fletcher to marry Hanna to save her sister and ally with the Gilbert family. Gilbert wants to counter Hamilton's influence, so he has Hanna engaged to Russel, despite of their reputation. So, if their engagement is cancelled, their alliance will dissolve, and at same time, the newly formed alliance of Fletcher/Gilbert will definitely displease Hamilton, who basically owns Bennett family. Then, Hamilton can just send Catherine to marry into the Russels and ally with them. Fletcher and Gilbert would be basically fucked by being out voted 3 to 2. Therefore, either Alison is not as competent as she think she is or she's hiding something.

Also, Catherine is right. Fletcher's best play is to marry her first to form an alliance between their families. Hamilton will be pleased, at least in the short term, since he'll think he secures 3 votes. Then, Fletcher can convince Gilbert to let Hanna marry him. Better yet, have Gilbert take over Bennet's debt from Hamilton, since Gilbert is the one that causes Bennet's downfall. If he's truly "honorable," he should take the responsbility of rebulding the family and repair their relationship. Of course, this will piss off Hamilton, but he'll have to remain neutral, otherwise he'll just be out voted. Or Fletcher can just marry Sarah as third to smooth things out with him.

The worst choice is Fletcher being stubborn and say "Screw you guys!" and marry Lucy or Vicky first. Then, he'll get out voted 4 to 1, since he'll immediately lose respect from all 4 families. I know this is kinetic novel, but I kinda want to see this as an instant game-over choice for good laugh.

You're assuming that all four other Families are willing to vote against their own interests purely out of pettiness, which I don't think is the case at all. They're not all going to vote No on something MC voted Yes on just to spite him. Firstly that would require allowing him the first vote on every topic and secondly effectively allowing him to control how they all vote. And sooner or later MCs faction would simply start sometimes voting against things he really wants to pass because they know the other will try to spite him and pass it. And if all this were true and happening, it'd cause chaos. Nobody wants that.

MC marrying his Commoner gfs before any of the Family ones, won't have any huge negative impact, certainly in the long term because the families can't afford to let that happen.

 

[maxthruster]

You're assuming that all four other Families are willing to vote against their own interests purely out of pettiness, which I don't think is the case at all. They're not all going to vote No on something MC voted Yes on just to spite him. Firstly that would require allowing him the first vote on every topic and secondly effectively allowing him to control how they all vote. And sooner or later MCs faction would simply start sometimes voting against things he really wants to pass because they know the other will try to spite him and pass it. And if all this were true and happening, it'd cause chaos. Nobody wants that.

MC marrying his Commoner gfs before any of the Family ones, won't have any huge negative impact, certainly in the long term because the families can't afford to let that happen.

Also, we know marrying girls from outside the families is a thing; Lily states that she was caught up in the idea of a lavish lifestyle when she married Hamilton, implying that she's not from one of the families. Yet here she is, married to one of their heads. Now, granted, she's not a first wife and I'd imagine there's some amount of prestige in the first marriage, but it doesn't seem to be all that important. The families are patriarchal for the most part, so order of marriage is really only important when it comes to inheritance - something I'm sure the heads of the families can draw up themselves in their wills, to prevent weak, stupid or overly cruel first sons from taking over. Hamilton might be minorly offended if Jack passes up Sarah for a commoner as his first wife, but he'd probably prefer that to Catherine or Hannah, and even beyond the politics he seems like a man who would respect Jack sticking to his principles and marrying one of the first girls who was by his side, even before knowing about his lineage.

 

[danb35]

Hamilton might be minorly offended if Jack passes up Sarah for a commoner as his first wife, but he'd probably prefer that to Catherine or Hannah, and even beyond the politics he seems like a man who would respect Jack sticking to his principles and marrying one of the first girls who was by his side, even before knowing about his lineage.

I can see Hannah's father feeling this way (obviously swapping Hannah for Sarah). But Sarah's?

 

[S1nsational]

Also, we know marrying girls from outside the families is a thing; Lily states that she was caught up in the idea of a lavish lifestyle when she married Hamilton, implying that she's not from one of the families. Yet here she is, married to one of their heads. Now, granted, she's not a first wife and I'd imagine there's some amount of prestige in the first marriage, but it doesn't seem to be all that important. The families are patriarchal for the most part, so order of marriage is really only important when it comes to inheritance - something I'm sure the heads of the families can draw up themselves in their wills, to prevent weak, stupid or overly cruel first sons from taking over. Hamilton might be minorly offended if Jack passes up Sarah for a commoner as his first wife, but he'd probably prefer that to Catherine or Hannah, and even beyond the politics he seems like a man who would respect Jack sticking to his principles and marrying one of the first girls who was by his side, even before knowing about his lineage.

Sarah's dad will just be satisfied that MC still intends to marry her and is keeping her as one of his women. He's losing nothing in this, Sarah is the youngest, was politically useless prior to this, and now suddenly she has the heart of a Family Head. The Forth Wife of a Family Head seems to be a much higher position than a First Wife of a Branch Family.

Catherine's dad will likely just be happy his daughter will find a nice husband who can look after her. Catherine's mom on the other hand is the one who will want to leverage her daughter for some personal benefit.

Hannah's dad I can see personally respecting MC for being loyal to his first girlfriends and marrying them first, rather than putting politics first. But I can also see him seeing that as a weakness, being unwilling to do what's needed.

 

[maxthruster]

I can see Hannah's father feeling this way (obviously swapping Hannah for Sarah). But Sarah's?

I used him as an example because the original comment was heavily focused on his reaction - in a way that didn't make much sense, given his entire goal. I don't think he'd be truly bothered, but I think that's the maximum it might bother him.

 

[Meiri]

Why do you guys think marriage order will even be a thing? I think by the time marriage even comes a real possibility, the full Fletcher team will already be complete and everyone will be close to each other, I wouldn't be surprised if they all probably marry at the same time with all the houses becoming closer to each other as well.

That is if the marriage even shows, I have the feeling it will just be a time skip by the end where they show already married in an epilogue.

 

[maxthruster]

Why do you guys think marriage order will even be a thing? I think by the time marriage even comes a real possibility, the full Fletcher team will already be complete and everyone will be close to each other, I wouldn't be surprised if they all probably marry at the same time with all the houses becoming closer to each other as well.

That is if the marriage even shows, I have the feeling it will just be a time skip by the end where they show already married in an epilogue.

It's not even about whether weddings are shown in game, but in politics - especially medieval nobility style politics, which this game is based on - it does matter. Getting allies in high places is important, and to speak really broadly, who can you trust more than your blood relatives? Having one of your daughters become the first wife of a family head means any sons she has will be first in line to be the next head of that family, strengthening your bond with that family.

 

[S1nsational]

Why do you guys think marriage order will even be a thing? I think by the time marriage even comes a real possibility, the full Fletcher team will already be complete and everyone will be close to each other, I wouldn't be surprised if they all probably marry at the same time with all the houses becoming closer to each other as well.

That is if the marriage even shows, I have the feeling it will just be a time skip by the end where they show already married in an epilogue.

That just feels likes a boring and easy way out.

 

[Meiri]

It's not even about whether weddings are shown in game, but in politics - especially medieval nobility style politics, which this game is based on - it does matter. Getting allies in high places is important, and to speak really broadly, who can you trust more than your blood relatives? Having one of your daughters become the first wife of a family head means any sons she has will be first in line to be the next head of that family, strengthening your bond with that family.

The story at least to me seems to be going in two directions: Either by the end the founding families come to a sort of understanding between everyone thanks to Fletcher, or they just agree to put an end to this and start letting people from outside the families more power.

I think allowing a first wife would just perpetuate their current system and pretty much makes it so that the following generations would continue having to deal with everything, which doesn't seem to align with Fletcher's current vision.

I could only see it if it is Lucy as first wife as she's the first to join the harem and also someone from outside the families so by picking her he wouldn't be favoring anyone but at least to me the impression that I got is that the story by the end will eventually move on from the current family system.

 

[maxthruster]

The story at least to me seems to be going in two directions: Either by the end the founding families come to a sort of understanding between everyone thanks to Fletcher, or they just agree to put an end to this and start letting people from outside the families more power.

I think allowing a first wife would just perpetuate their current system and pretty much makes it so that the following generations would continue having to deal with everything, which doesn't seem to align with Fletcher's current vision.

I could only see it if it is Lucy as first wife as she's the first to join the harem and also someone from outside the families so by picking her he wouldn't be favoring anyone but at least to me the impression that I got is that the story by the end will eventually move on from the current family system.

I'm interested to see how the story deals with it. Because you're right, I don't think it can reach a satisfying conclusion without doing something to change the system, but at the same time completely upending the establishment just doesn't seem to be in the scope of the game.

I think charting a middle course would be ideal. One where Jack exposes some clear flaw in the Founding Family system - intentionally or otherwise - that forces them all to rethink their approach to governing the town. One that sees the various families shift towards new ways of thinking; either changing our their heads entirely, or simply adapting to the new norm. Ideally, one that's less insular and actually benefits the town rather than simply making the rich richer. It's the kind of systemic change that won't be implemented in a single lifetime, but simply starting down that path could be enough. A small glimpse of a better tomorrow.

 

[MagicShoppe]

I just finished the update. Where is Sarah after the goth contest? Lucy, V, and Kat are going to go shopping as MC prepares for his date with Allison. V walks in saying the other went "home". But Sarah is fully moved into the cafe, I thought. She doesn't appear in the rest of the story. Why did she go home? Shouldn't she have been around with Lucy and Kat concerned for V?

 

[S1nsational]

I just finished the update. Where is Sarah after the goth contest? Lucy, V, and Kat are going to go shopping as MC prepares for his date with Allison. V walks in saying the other went "home". But Sarah is fully moved into the cafe, I thought. She doesn't appear in the rest of the story. Why did she go home? Shouldn't she have been around with Lucy and Kat concerned for V?

So far as I recall, Sarah is still officially living at her parents house playing double agent

 

[MagicShoppe]

So far as I recall, Sarah is still officially living at her parents house playing double agent

But Lilly confides in MC that Sarah's room is basically empty. Is she using a guest room? It's rather odd.

EDIT: Sarah's room at the Hamilton Estate.

 

[mordred93]

But Lilly confides in MC that Sarah's room is basically empty. Is she using a guest room? It's rather odd.

No, most of her stuff is at the MCs. All her Cosplay stuff, dressers, etc. The only thing she probably has is a wardrobe, and a bed in her old bedroom at her parents house (editing for clarity)