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Qahlz

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I agree that keeping grades up is pretty easy, but I don't want this to turn into a school test simulator, because I'd much rather have more free time to do more fun things. I feel like managing my food, sleep, relaxation, etc., is fine just as it is.
My thoughts about a higher difficulty to keep grades at A or B would be mostly to better funnel you into the professors' content. There isn't much reason to do their special tasks and get the Psychology or Art Model events if it's this easy to keep your grades up just by spending one hour doing homework and studying each day.
As far as I can tell, grades only seem to affect how much you have to pay the parents, and cash is relatively easy to come by. So if you don't care much about grades, it could just be made trivial to keep the grades at C instead.
 

Jdsiis

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The rape discussion is very easily fixed. This game doesn't need actual rape imo. It needs the real life concept of, the more aroused you are, the harder it is to say no to things.

As an example, if a strange ugly guy is jerking off next to you on the bus and you werent horny at all and he asked you to suck it. You could easily say no.

But if it was a young attractive guy and you were already turned on and aroused, It would be harder to say no depending on skill checks etc.

Rather than have the person force you to suck their dick, it's just that you no longer have the option to say no, as your character is too turned on.

The ability to decline to sexual acts being taken away from the player would only be in cases where your arousal and or drunkenness was very high or you were a really slutty character with no willpower. This would mean, you can't just walk around everywhere while being at maximum arousal/ being completely drunk without consequences.

Its like karryns prison. Where at first you can defend yourself and have high willpower to stop from being groped. And by the end of the game your getting gangbanged and can't say no due to the accumulated corruption. This game is on steam so I don't see the problem.
 
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Amnelis

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I haven't played it in a bit but isn't that how the bus groping scene works? If you decide to stand still instead of moving to another seat you are given a couple more chances to leave as long as your character's arousal isn't too high, otherwise you can either fail to leave or just give in to it.

Selfishly that's the type of dubious consent/non-con stuff I prefer so I'm cool with the game taking that direction vs long term trauma & hardcore stuff like DoL or Girl Life. But conflicting feelings, shame and embarassment are needed to make sure it has some weight to it.

I wonder if they removed the classroom harasser scene in the bathroom since then? I don't remember which version I played that had it but I'm almost sure it couldn've been prior to that one. It even had a variation if you were a virgin & decided to tell him. It was probably the most obvious non-con scene since it was scripted you couldn't escape it. But then again I though the bully forcing you to give him oral while walking around campus was unescapable too but turns out it isn't so I might be wrong once again lol.
 

NobleLeader65

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I haven't played it in a bit but isn't that how the bus groping scene works? If you decide to stand still instead of moving to another seat you are given a couple more chances to leave as long as your character's arousal isn't too high, otherwise you can either fail to leave or just give in to it.

Selfishly that's the type of dubious consent/non-con stuff I prefer so I'm cool with the game taking that direction vs long term trauma & hardcore stuff like DoL or Girl Life. But conflicting feelings, shame and embarassment are needed to make sure it has some weight to it.



I wonder if they removed the classroom harasser scene in the bathroom since then? I don't remember which version I played that had it but I'm almost sure it couldn've been prior to that one. It even had a variation if you were a virgin & decided to tell him. It was probably the most obvious non-con scene since it was scripted you couldn't escape it. But then again I though the bully forcing you to give him oral while walking around campus was unescapable too but turns out it isn't so I might be wrong once again lol.
The harasser scene still exists. It's basically them saying "Hey, want me to cut you some slack? Follow me." If you do, they proposition you, either for sex (if you have a vag and they have a dick) or for you to give them oral, and you can choose to do one of three things, depending on your skills. You can always leave, and they won't give you a break. You can do as they say, and they'll give you a break (this would fall into dubcon territory I believe, as you are being coerced into it but you technically give consent). If you have enough of the games assertiveness/dominance stat, you can defy them. If you have even more of the stat, you can hit them with the uno reverse card, where instead of them fucking you/ getting oral, you have them give you oral. Currently there is no actual written scene for fucking them on your terms, or in general anymore. The previous one (where they tie you to a bed and blindfold you before fucking you, or letting a different NPC fuck you) was rewritten to allow for pretty much any NPC to do it to you.

The devs definitely seem okay with adding dubcon, I think that's about as far as they want events to usually go, especially since a lot of the more rapey events that are currently in the game still have an out a lot of the time (in procedural sex scenes, you can always hit the big red END button to end the scene).
 
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Evizzy89

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The harasser scene still exists. It's basically them saying "Hey, want me to cut you some slack? Follow me." If you do, they proposition you, either for sex (if you have a vag and they have a dick) or for you to give them oral, and you can choose to do one of three things, depending on your skills. You can always leave, and they won't give you a break. You can do as they say, and they'll give you a break (this would fall into dubcon territory I believe, as you are being coerced into it but you technically give consent). If you have enough of the games assertiveness/dominance stat, you can defy them. If you have even more of the stat, you can hit them with the uno reverse card, where instead of them fucking you/ getting oral, you have them give you oral. Currently there is no actual written scene for fucking them on your terms, or in general anymore. The previous one (where they tie you to a bed and blindfold you before fucking you, or letting a different NPC fuck you) was rewritten to allow for pretty much any NPC to do it to you.

The devs definitely seem okay with adding dubcon, I think that's about as far as they want events to usually go, especially since a lot of the more rapey events that are currently in the game still have an out a lot of the time (in procedural sex scenes, you can always hit the big red END button to end the scene).
hrm

its been awhile since I have played, but can I make a dommy roomates gf or my friend a dommy futa and have them x male

last I recalled there was nothing with the roomies gf and she only gave you tasks and the last I recall was my best friend was more subby

is there any dommy futa x male or x female storylines? I Prefer to play as a subby
 

KekKoo

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v0-5-0f-patreon is being flagged as a virus.
Is this a false positive or is it actually a problem because I read this and deleted the game ASAP since I'd already downloaded and extracted it, but not opened it in my browser yet or anything. I can wait until the proper public release if need be, but I definitely had a moment of weakness either way. :oops:
 

Felkesste

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I'm not a huge fan of that line of thinking that says consent is a mechanic, not a choice on the player's part. The idea that you need to manipulate your stats to get the desired outcome at any given point, and that it isn't you, the player, that makes the decisions- but the avatar that's supposed to be you that's making the final call on things. In other games, that leads to you spending tons of gold or cash or whatever the in-game currency is to stock up on some kind of aphrodisiac so you can chug them like an addict before specific events in order to force the player character to make the choice you as the player wanted to make yourself, if only the game bothered to ask for your opinion. Hard to argue that it's a matter of realism or immersion if you've just spent 3000$ on 60 aphrodisiacs that each raise your lust by like, 30 points at a time, so you have to chug four of them just outside the door in order to get your character to make the choice you wanted them to make before any given scene. "Very normal, realistic behavior being simulated here. I see this sort of thing all the time on the street. Any time I want to have a naughty encounter, I usually have to drink six or seven lesser aphrodisiacs myself in order to give my consent! It totally isn't an addiction or anything- it's just how normal, realistic people make their choices, you know?"

I can recognize the appeal in fooling around with taboo or naughty ideas like dubious consent, but I feel like that'd still be more fun to explore if it was just another option to be made. Enthusiastic Acceptance, Hesitant Acceptance, Rejection, etc. That might sound like more work, but it ends up being about the same amount of writing I'd figure, if only because it's the same exact scenes being written, you just don't always have to include stat checks.

This is just my personal opinion, but I feel like a lot of the time, stat checks are just arbitrarily thrown in and made super important for accessing the more fun content because the developer doesn't want the players to burn through the game's content too fast. If the game only has ten or so erotic scenes to explore, letting the player voluntarily jump right into them whenever they want can lead to the game being entirely spent in an hour. So the player and their character are separated and made to work against each other, choices or desired outcomes are put behind stat requirements and grinds despite there being nothing in the narrative preventing you from just choosing to play along in that instant and getting the lewd scene- other than your character's unexpected instance of free will, I guess? You can get away with that when it's an established character, but if you, the player, made the character to be your player insert, then you really should be the one in control of that character, making all their choices. I'd rather be exploring the fantasy on offer as the protagonist, than babysitting and manipulating someone else getting to play as them.

Games having difficulty is fine, though I feel like some developers end up missing the forest through the trees, forgetting what their game was offering at some point in development. My concern is just the separation between the player and their character. Let me actually play as the me in the game, the one at the wheel, making the decisions. Not a passenger holding a map and trying to give directions they may or may not be interested in listening to. Rather than constant stat checks being used to determine whether I go along with something or someone, I'd rather the writing just be written to tempt me into making questionable choices. Stat checks for a yes or no question that should boil down to your mood feels silly.
 

Jim Mann

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Is this a false positive or is it actually a problem because I read this and deleted the game ASAP since I'd already downloaded and extracted it, but not opened it in my browser yet or anything. I can wait until the proper public release if need be, but I definitely had a moment of weakness either way. :oops:
Virustotal thinks it's fine:
 
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GokutheG

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Does anyone still have version v0.4.25h please ?
This is version e. Sorry but i dont think i have version h.
My thoughts about a higher difficulty to keep grades at A or B would be mostly to better funnel you into the professors' content. There isn't much reason to do their special tasks and get the Psychology or Art Model events if it's this easy to keep your grades up just by spending one hour doing homework and studying each day.
As far as I can tell, grades only seem to affect how much you have to pay the parents, and cash is relatively easy to come by. So if you don't care much about grades, it could just be made trivial to keep the grades at C instead.
The problem with this is that you shouldn't force a player to go down the teacher route if that is content they aren't into. I also don't think they want to make it seem that in order to get good grades you're forced into sexual situations.
 
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Ridley77

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I hope not, that kind of shit always takes a lot of resources (even the ones that steal all their visuals from porn or fanart have to spend the time collecting and appropriately inserting it, not even counting the cost for those who commission their own) that IMO is better spent on the prose. I can appreciate some visually-focused games, but it is a complete mismatch for a game like this which is far along and has been built from the ground up to be based on text-focused smut.

The vast majority of porn games are already visually focused so there is no reason to awkwardly shove it into one of the few good ones that don't have that focus.
I think everyone's a fan of good prose. Just personal preference. I don't think a simple portrait would harm anything so deeply, but whatever the dev wants to do is what they should do. I was just asking a simple yes or no as to if anyone had insight into their plans.
 

XulOnTuesday

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Preferences are in the 0.5 update.
This is version e. Sorry but i dont think i have version h.

The problem with this is that you shouldn't force a player to go down the teacher route if that is content they aren't into. I also don't think they want to make it seem that in order to get good grades you're forced into sexual situations.
Hopefully a player would have 3 options:
  1. Spend time and effort getting good grades.
  2. Seduce your professor.
  3. Get Cs.
A player who cares about grades but doesn't care for teacher-fucking would still have the option of studying hard to get them. There would just be a cost to earn exemplary grades as opposed to just scraping by.
 

Amnelis

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I agree with nearly everything you wrote, I also prefer player choice over stats for the most part & find stats can be overused in some other games. Having to grind for the stats that allow you to be bolder with sex (forgot what it's called) can get pretty boring. I just think that under some circumstances the choice shouldn't be entirely on the player, like if your character is wasted, high or too horny to think straight. It adds some unpredictability that's not fully random since managing those stats is your responsibility. But as you brought up if it ends up being a matter of going out of your way to neglect/fulfill a stat in order to trigger a special scene it loses its appeal. It has to be used wisely though idk exactly how that goes.

Newlife, for all it's flaws, handles this pretty well imo. For the most part it's all up to the player, but your character might have traits that limit you in different ways, like low willpower, plus your character's drunkness and horniness (not visible to the player beside some changes in texts indicating them) can affect your options during a encouter. But most important of all there's no corruption meter, so you if you want you can play as a prude who wants to save herself until marriage only to end up losing your virginity to a stranger at the club's bathroom right in your first week. As it happens you can chose if she's a equal participant in it or just taking it. Afterwards it's entirelly up to you if she starts hooking up with every npc or tries to find love again.
 

GokutheG

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Preferences are in the 0.5 update.

Hopefully a player would have 3 options:
  1. Spend time and effort getting good grades.
  2. Seduce your professor.
  3. Get Cs.
A player who cares about grades but doesn't care for teacher-fucking would still have the option of studying hard to get them. There would just be a cost to earn exemplary grades as opposed to just scraping by.
But if they make grades harder to maintain that will cut down into the time players can do something else like work/maintain stats. The only way I could see that working is if having higher grades actually reduced the amount you have to pay to your parents.(this is something I hope they do.)
 

DandyMe

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But if they make grades harder to maintain that will cut down into the time players can do something else like work/maintain stats. The only way I could see that working is if having higher grades actually reduced the amount you have to pay to your parents.(this is something I hope they do.)
Good grades giving a reduction to the fee as good sport results..
 

AelphysTerra

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If the sports team is winning and you're one of the performers you get like a 20% discount on the weekly fee, and likewise if you keep your GPA >= 3.8, which isn't hard to do if you make sure to study and do your homework. The discount stacks.
 
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