Riujin

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I'm so confused about Rivan.. How do I get 2? The thought of starting again all the dam grind and doing wrong again..... it's scary!
 

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CH3 I like this game. All the new added bits make it more interesting even if some stuff isn't animated. Steam body for this chapter was OP, I hope everything gets its time to shine

A few gripes are how each version is detached from the previous. I hope in the future everything gets merged into a single continuous game file.

Another is how zoomed in the maps are, old school pokemon let you see more of the world walking around than this does.

That sex winning is always preferable to battle winning. You get HP/MP/EXP for sex, while only EXP for battle. Yes he is an incubus, but it is very heavily favored to the point of wasting turns for the sex wins just to get HP/MP back, so maybe a cool down on how often he gets that back to make it less favorable but still preferred.

Wish the UI for items/trinkets/etc was a bit more compact, and separated from other things.

If you used an item previously, going to the item menu has it still highlighted but isn't usable until you click off and on it again.
 

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I'm so confused about Rivan.. How do I get 2? The thought of starting again all the dam grind and doing wrong again..... it's scary!
Ch3, glasses girl? You have to pick the correct choices, forgot what they were, should be somewhere here, but yeah, I had to start over again too. -- Think it was something about doing anything, then something else.... Basically, the 'serious' answers.
 
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I'm so confused about Rivan.. How do I get 2? The thought of starting again all the dam grind and doing wrong again..... it's scary!
You mean the item grinding?
If you need to change an item number on chapter3 get your save in text and look out for 4v50724
When you start a new game with 0item you get that
4kt50e-4-f85au-4-f85au-4-f85au-4-f85au-4-f85au-4-f85au-4-f85au-4-f85au-4-f85au-4v50724
there should be 9x 4f85au since f85au should be 0 and the 4 is a coma i guess
Meaning
4kt50e-4-NB of item case 1-4-NB of item case 2-4-NB of item case 3-4-f85au-4-f85au-4-f85au-4-f85au-4-f85au-4-NB of item case 9-4v50724
You can't change the item juste it's number so you have to get it at last 1 in your inventory
0= -f85au- 1= -kt50e- 99= -ntaknbt062-

Oh i mean Shovel not Chovel XD (note to self don't type when you just get up...)
 

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While I do find the combat and overall gameplay quite fun.
I have to say the story is quite retarded. (in terms of narration.)

Like... he calls his dad "mom", despite in game, his dad even reminisces of back when he raped Soriel's mom, in the middle of raping someone else. (Or maybe it was after the rape) While he also talks about his hyper dick... and Soriel's hyper dick. It's just needlessly convoluted for no reason. It's never explained why he calls his dad "mom", he just does. And we're supposed to roll with it. No questions asked.

That aside, the animation and style is pretty solid. Though, the females are a bit lazily done. All pretty much have copy pasted genitalia without any variation. Especially with all the hyper dicks, it feels a bit half-assed. (they are well detailed at least)
He does rape and neglect a ton of girls. Which, sorta fits the theme?
->
It does feel like he should be less useless at sex. I mean, he's a sex demon. And he can't even satisfy a girl reliably xD (And the few times he is implied to do so, the creator really cut the budget for that. Like, he can do drawn out, extravagant cumshots. But can't do an orgasm for any of the girls. Only "imply" it.)

I find it a shame. As it has a really solid ground. It just feels like the creator cba to finish like, 30 % of it.
Either via copy pasting or brushing stuff under the rug. Which is a shame. As a lot of scenes look really good, and you tell he went in with enthusiasm. But similarly, a lot of scenes make me feel like he gave up halfway through and just rushed to finish it.


(Disclaimer: Some details are a bit fuzzy as I didn't play through all back to back just now.)
 

MotoMati

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there's a chapter 3 and 4 out already? man I've been behind on some things; got one little problem though: chapter 3 isnt taking my chapter 2 save file text, saying "make sure save isn't modified". Granted, I used cheat engine back in chapter 2 to god mode myself, but I tesated this out by starting a brand new chapter 2 run, saving said text file, and copy/pasting the result into the text load box, and still the same error

Here's my original ch.2 save file
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and here's my unmodified new ch.2 save
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Now I see this balanced mod and I just tried it there, and yet again, the same "make sure save isnt modified" error on both my original and new ch.2 saves. What in the fuck is going on, did the dev do a fucky wucky with save compatibility when releasing chapter 3, or is this an intended measure to (unless im over-reaching) not allow modified saves of any kind?
 

MotoMati

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and this game as an anti-cheat system in it? I would understand if that is the reason why I can't load my old ch.2 save to ch.3, but I don't get why it'd fuck up a brand new ch.2 save
 

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What do you mean "the 2 other girls"?
I guess the 2 other prisoners, one being the Sulphur Imp, the other being unknown yet (after checking the intro again she resembles an Obsidian Imp, of those imps who got named).

Like... he calls his dad "mom", despite in game, his dad even reminisces of back when he raped Soriel's mom, in the middle of raping someone else. (Or maybe it was after the rape) While he also talks about his hyper dick... and Soriel's hyper dick. It's just needlessly convoluted for no reason. It's never explained why he calls his dad "mom", he just does. And we're supposed to roll with it. No questions asked.
Because his mother is a Succubus and in that moment a Futa.

and this game as an anti-cheat system in it? I would understand if that is the reason why I can't load my old ch.2 save to ch.3, but I don't get why it'd fuck up a brand new ch.2 save
The saves got reworked a bit, the transition from Ch2 to Ch3 requires you to use a game on Newgrounds to fix it (it was there, though I can't seem to find it anymore, so I can't link it here). The game was made in a way so the saves are taken over from chapter to chapter, though alternatively you could start at a later chapter without needing to play prior chapters, though it is advised (not just for content, but because of items, covenants, etc.).
 
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MotoMati

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Well, I just hit up introspurt on newgrounds PM system, so unless he doesn't use that measaging system and I'd have better luck using his discord, guess ill wait

its also a bit infuriating: any change I do to a ch.3 run via cheat engine, even if its just freezing the health value to full, getting half-way done, making a save file, and reloading said save file, renders all my crap erased; I didn't know he implemented any anti-cheat system past chapter 2; even using the ch.3 save editor to increase my available points value by one is considered a game breaking detected cheat.

just to be clear, is there ANY way I can cheat at this chapter without losing all my stuff via ch.2 save importing or doing a new ch.3 fresh run? or is such a goal impossible?
 

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Because his mother is a Succubus and in that moment a Futa.
No, his mother is a human. That is stated in game. His hyper futa dad is very upfront about that.
And for all intents and purposes, his dad is just an incubus with tits. (Heck, futa as default are "male". That's their sole role and purpose in porn. Most just use female pronouns on them as it "sounds less gay").
He's never done any attempts to establish himself as anything else.
Heck, he even asks his son to practically follow in his footsteps to become a great incubus. There's nothing "succubus" going on there.

(Also,the game is literally linked on NG on the first page btw.)


And: Huh, seems a bit weird with a anti-cheat system... I mean: He has time for that, but not anything else? xD
 

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An herm is an herm, not a Female nor Male... Cause it does have both sex. The question is: is this herm feminine or masculine?
 
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MotoMati

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so introspurt replied back on newgrounds today, and he said the reason why my ch.2 save didnt import to ch.3 was because the ch.2 game I got (pulled it originally from comdotgame) was a beta version, and beta saves don't transfer to stable

I had the thought of taking the ch.2 save I got, importing it into the ch.2 crimson keep game on newgrounds, and exporting the save code from that game into the ch.3 on newgrounds, still getting that error. I gave him both codes I had, so maybe he can figure out what is doing the fucky wucky
 

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No, his mother is a human. That is stated in game. His hyper futa dad is very upfront about that.
And for all intents and purposes, his dad is just an incubus with tits. (Heck, futa as default are "male". That's their sole role and purpose in porn. Most just use female pronouns on them as it "sounds less gay").
He's never done any attempts to establish himself as anything else.
Heck, he even asks his son to practically follow in his footsteps to become a great incubus. There's nothing "succubus" going on there.

(Also,the game is literally linked on NG on the first page btw.)


And: Huh, seems a bit weird with a anti-cheat system... I mean: He has time for that, but not anything else? xD
First of all, those other replies were meant for those who I quoted, either you quote that part from me as well or from them if you want to respond to it. Also, there was an extra game on Newgrounds, a specific one, where you could fix a save from Ch2 so it works on Ch3. I don't find the link to THAT one since that game seems to have disappeared, what you clearly misunderstood somehow.

Now to the actual reply:

Are you talking about another game perhaps? I have no idea where you get those facts...
Futa has a clear definition. If you think otherwise, it's your thing, but don't drag it into here. Futas are persons with both female and male qualities, though the female ones often being the dominant ones, which is why they relate more to the pronoun she (or in some cases they). Whether you acknowledge it or not, I won't respond anymore on anything regarding that, you can discuss that elsewhere.

Talking about Succubus, depending on how a creator wants them to behave they sometimes can grow a dick, even though they do have a pussy, thus they are basically still female just with an optional dick. She clearly says that she is a Succubus, so don't disregard that fact. Whether Soriel has a second mother who is human is irrelevant here, since the one in the lair, who is named Nen, is a Succubus, thus female.

Until now there is only that one futa scene, though I am unsure whether it was clarified if there will be more, so just skip that part if you dislike it. The dev intentionally added that part, and comments like yours aren't necessary here, that is just hate speech.

One more thing which I didn't respond to in your initial post:
Raped his mother? I think that was never stated, if it's not just your assumption please prove me otherwise.
 
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Well, I just hit up introspurt on newgrounds PM system, so unless he doesn't use that measaging system and I'd have better luck using his discord, guess ill wait

its also a bit infuriating: any change I do to a ch.3 run via cheat engine, even if its just freezing the health value to full, getting half-way done, making a save file, and reloading said save file, renders all my crap erased; I didn't know he implemented any anti-cheat system past chapter 2; even using the ch.3 save editor to increase my available points value by one is considered a game breaking detected cheat.

just to be clear, is there ANY way I can cheat at this chapter without losing all my stuff via ch.2 save importing or doing a new ch.3 fresh run? or is such a goal impossible?
so introspurt replied back on newgrounds today, and he said the reason why my ch.2 save didnt import to ch.3 was because the ch.2 game I got (pulled it originally from comdotgame) was a beta version, and beta saves don't transfer to stable

I had the thought of taking the ch.2 save I got, importing it into the ch.2 crimson keep game on newgrounds, and exporting the save code from that game into the ch.3 on newgrounds, still getting that error. I gave him both codes I had, so maybe he can figure out what is doing the fucky wucky
I didn't reply earlier, but now with both of your posts:

Also regarding your initial post, I am unsure but I think we did have a full build of Ch2 here when I downloaded it and it wasn't save compatible with Ch3 for some reason, which is why the dev had an additional game on Newgrounds where a save from Ch2 could be fixed so it was compatible with Ch3 (though it seems to not be there anymore?)

But now that you mention cheats... I actually have no clue about that and whether it relates to the initial problem. What I can say is that it also resets my saves since the (fixed) full Ch3 version, though cheating was just fine in Ch3 beta (initial full release). I still have the files of both versions, which is why I say that. So it might actually be intentional anti-cheat rather than a bug.

Though in this case, if it actually is anti-cheat, I don't get it why he doesn't just lower the stats and gives the according points for increasing the stats for the appropriate level in that chapter, except if he actually does have a strict no-cheat-policy and wants to punish the player.
But on the other hand, it could also just be a bug resulting from cheating, i.e. some sort of non-intentional anti-cheat. I could imagine that the dev made certain adjustments to the according chapter and if those are exceeded the data can't be appropriately read, thus resetting it to player level 1. What I mean by adjustments is that the dev wouldn't expect yet that the players would have such high stats, thus they are exceeding a certain limit what can be loaded / saved, and it often is the case that such data isn't just getting capped, but rather reset either to nil (undefined) or 0 (in this case player level 1 with no stats).
 
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Kattlarv

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An herm is an herm, not a Female nor Male... Cause it does have both sex. The question is: is this herm feminine or masculine?
That is correct. (And also why we literally have different gender tags)
In this case however, to all we know: He only has one sex. That being his hyper penis. (At least he's never shown or addressed having a vulva. But if he does, it would have to be micro as we haven't seen any signs of it.)
And he has a feminine appearance. But is basically trying to be the biggest mega-chad possible xD Exclusively focusing on the "incubus part" of his identity.


First of all, those other replies were meant for those who I quoted, either you quote that part from me as well or from them if you want to respond to it. Also, there was an extra game on Newgrounds, a specific one, where you could fix a save from Ch2 so it works on Ch3. I don't find the link to THAT one since that game seems to have disappeared, what you clearly misunderstood somehow.

Now to the actual reply:

Are you talking about another game perhaps? I have no idea where you get those facts...
Futa has a clear definition. If you think otherwise, it's your thing, but don't drag it into here. Futas are persons with both female and male qualities, though the female ones often being the dominant ones, which is why they relate more to the pronoun she (or in some cases they). Whether you acknowledge it or not, I won't respond anymore on anything regarding that, you can discuss that elsewhere.

Talking about Succubus, depending on how a creator wants them to behave they sometimes can grow a dick, even though they do have a pussy, thus they are basically still female just with an optional dick. She clearly says that she is a Succubus, so don't disregard that fact. Whether Soriel has a second mother who is human is irrelevant here, since the one in the lair, who is named Nen, is a Succubus, thus female.

Until now there is only that one futa scene, though I am unsure whether it was clarified if there will be more, so just skip that part if you dislike it. The dev intentionally added that part, and comments like yours aren't necessary here, that is just hate speech.

One more thing which I didn't respond to in your initial post:
Raped his mother? I think that was never stated, if it's not just your assumption please prove me otherwise.
True, I did reply to one more of those quotes, my bad. It was more of an afterthought.
And oh, I thought you meant chapter 2 and 3.

And no, it's this game. Since I have the saves.
In general yes, a futa is a character with both sets of genitalia. It IS however VERY common for them to only have a penis. Yes, this does have a different term. But, people can't seem to figure that out. And just lump herms, dickgirls, shemales and etc into "futa". It's become the general term for anything with boobs and a penis. Anything else is irrelevant to most people.
And no: People simply refer to them as female, as to make it "no homo". (And most futa entirely skip any masculine parts, only taking the penis. Hence their feminine appearance.) This is evident in how most males refuse to let a futa have sex with "another man". Because "That would be gay". Which: If they now "are female", that would be straight. (Not to mention: The most commonly used futa archetype is the "dude with tits". Named so after that they act like "the dude" in a porno. But happen to have tits. They can 90+ % of the time be replaced by a male. And nothing changes.)

A succubus could technically gain a penis. As in general fluff wise: They are supposed to cater to a specific mans preference. And if that man wants dick... :p
And considering he exclusively uses his dick. Makes no claim to have a pussy or ANY interest to ever use one... it's not "optional" anymore. He can claim to be a centaur princess. That doesn't make it true. Actions speak louder than words. He has only expressed interest in raping and impregnating women. An incubus job. (fluff wise) And wants his son to "follow in his footsteps". By that reasoning, Soriel should grow a pussy at least once or twice just to "try it out" or "be more like his mom". But he doesn't. Nor is ever encouraged too. Both Soriel and Nen strive towards stereotypical/porn masculinity. And more or less consider only men able to be dominant. Based on their action. Words are just hot air unless backed up by something.

Secondly: It can't be skipped, it's mandatory. But that's not the point.
As you said: The dev added that scene intentionally. Giving us the info that 1: Nen impregnated Soriel's human mother. Thus being his biological father. 2: Nen invites him in, while casually raping the fairy/imp queen. And, this part is a bit hazy but 3: Making a remark about how it reminds him of how he met Soriel's mom. Along with the whole: "Be more like your dad! Embrace your demon side, rape girls!". We're just asked to accept a contradictory statement based on "because I said so". That's not hate speech. That's criticism... granted, I can say its pretty salty/snarky criticism. But I blame that on this being a pretty common occurrence. Though, it's usually a bit more blatant, like: The futa calls themselves "Big Daddy" or similar.

And lastly: I can't recall if it was explicitly. But considering the intro, where Nen is confirmed as a rapist. Along with the gameplay literally being "beat up, then rape your opponents". (Yes, it's "mind control", but that by definition isn't consensual xD) And Soriel does express a preference towards his mom. (Initially.) Not really approving of his dads manwhoring ways. Preferring to beat up/potentially murder the intruders at first. Then he gets scolded for not raping them, and reluctantly goes out to do that. Then finds out he is actually SUPER into that. It is then kinda implied that everyone is cool with it afterwards as "that's just how things work around there". Unless you have it implied/stated otherwise in the game. If so: Do let me know. As I can only go of the evidence I've been provided in game. But I might have missed something.
 
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Thanks for taking your time, because now that you answered more detailed it sounds less than hate speech and more genuine criticism.

I don't want to go further into the details to drag this any further out, but just some things I want to point out:

Like I said, I won't talk any further about futa, more because I can't and don't want to talk that much about the topic, but also because it relates mainly to the term succubus here.

I'm not actually sure how succubus and incubus are correctly defined, but the way I see it, it mostly goes around how they look like rather than who they are actually seducing (here a succubus seduces a female imp). So going by the appearance, a succubus is basically the female version and an incubus the male one. Going by the dominant traits I see it only appropriate to call a succubus "she" and and incubus "he", disregarding what genitalia they mainly use, like it is in this game.

By "skipping" I rather meant just clicking fast through the text, just a bad choice of words there as it implies actually skipping the scene.

And again about raping the human mother: Whether it is implied or not, it isn't a fact and yet you said it like if it were one, otherwise you should have said that it isn't actually confirmed. I nitpick here because whether or not something is implied, you should only state it like a fact if it actually is confirmed as one, otherwise it's just a theory.

Edit: If I don't address something, it is either because I can't say anything about it or just respect the opinion, though rarely I just skim over it.
 
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Where Do I Find The Up Grades For The Covenants? Looking For "Lust Scholar" "Pussy Hound"
"Reaper Of Hearts" "Girth Acolyte" And "Prince Of Pink" Or Are These For Future Games?
 
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