and this game as an anti-cheat system in it? I would understand if that is the reason why I can't load my old ch.2 save to ch.3, but I don't get why it'd fuck up a brand new ch.2 save
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I guess the 2 other prisoners, one being the Sulphur Imp, the other being unknown yet (after checking the intro again she resembles an Obsidian Imp, of those imps who got named).
Because his mother is a Succubus and in that moment a Futa.
The saves got reworked a bit, the transition from Ch2 to Ch3 requires you to use a game on Newgrounds to fix it (it was there, though I can't seem to find it anymore, so I can't link it here). The game was made in a way so the saves are taken over from chapter to chapter, though alternatively you could start at a later chapter without needing to play prior chapters, though it is advised (not just for content, but because of items, covenants, etc.).
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Well, I just hit up introspurt on newgrounds PM system, so unless he doesn't use that measaging system and I'd have better luck using his discord, guess ill wait
its also a bit infuriating: any change I do to a ch.3 run via cheat engine, even if its just freezing the health value to full, getting half-way done, making a save file, and reloading said save file, renders all my crap erased; I didn't know he implemented any anti-cheat system past chapter 2; even using the ch.3 save editor to increase my available points value by one is considered a game breaking detected cheat.
just to be clear, is there ANY way I can cheat at this chapter without losing all my stuff via ch.2 save importing or doing a new ch.3 fresh run? or is such a goal impossible?
its also a bit infuriating: any change I do to a ch.3 run via cheat engine, even if its just freezing the health value to full, getting half-way done, making a save file, and reloading said save file, renders all my crap erased; I didn't know he implemented any anti-cheat system past chapter 2; even using the ch.3 save editor to increase my available points value by one is considered a game breaking detected cheat.
just to be clear, is there ANY way I can cheat at this chapter without losing all my stuff via ch.2 save importing or doing a new ch.3 fresh run? or is such a goal impossible?
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No, his mother is a human. That is stated in game. His hyper futa dad is very upfront about that.
And for all intents and purposes, his dad is just an incubus with tits. (Heck, futa as default are "male". That's their sole role and purpose in porn. Most just use female pronouns on them as it "sounds less gay").
He's never done any attempts to establish himself as anything else.
Heck, he even asks his son to practically follow in his footsteps to become a great incubus. There's nothing "succubus" going on there.
(Also,the game is literally linked on NG on the first page btw.)
And: Huh, seems a bit weird with a anti-cheat system... I mean: He has time for that, but not anything else? xD
so introspurt replied back on newgrounds today, and he said the reason why my ch.2 save didnt import to ch.3 was because the ch.2 game I got (pulled it originally from comdotgame) was a beta version, and beta saves don't transfer to stable
I had the thought of taking the ch.2 save I got, importing it into the ch.2 crimson keep game on newgrounds, and exporting the save code from that game into the ch.3 on newgrounds, still getting that error. I gave him both codes I had, so maybe he can figure out what is doing the fucky wucky
I had the thought of taking the ch.2 save I got, importing it into the ch.2 crimson keep game on newgrounds, and exporting the save code from that game into the ch.3 on newgrounds, still getting that error. I gave him both codes I had, so maybe he can figure out what is doing the fucky wucky
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First of all, those other replies were meant for those who I quoted, either you quote that part from me as well or from them if you want to respond to it. Also, there was an extra game on Newgrounds, a specific one, where you could fix a save from Ch2 so it works on Ch3. I don't find the link to THAT one since that game seems to have disappeared, what you clearly misunderstood somehow.
Now to the actual reply:
Are you talking about another game perhaps? I have no idea where you get those facts...
Futa has a clear definition. If you think otherwise, it's your thing, but don't drag it into here. Futas are persons with both female and male qualities, though the female ones often being the dominant ones, which is why they relate more to the pronoun she (or in some cases they). Whether you acknowledge it or not, I won't respond anymore on anything regarding that, you can discuss that elsewhere.
Talking about Succubus, depending on how a creator wants them to behave they sometimes can grow a dick, even though they do have a pussy, thus they are basically still female just with an optional dick. She clearly says that she is a Succubus, so don't disregard that fact. Whether Soriel has a second mother who is human is irrelevant here, since the one in the lair, who is named Nen, is a Succubus, thus female.
Until now there is only that one futa scene, though I am unsure whether it was clarified if there will be more, so just skip that part if you dislike it. The dev intentionally added that part, and comments like yours aren't necessary here, that is just hate speech.
One more thing which I didn't respond to in your initial post:
Raped his mother? I think that was never stated, if it's not just your assumption please prove me otherwise.
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I didn't reply earlier, but now with both of your posts:
Also regarding your initial post, I am unsure but I think we did have a full build of Ch2 here when I downloaded it and it wasn't save compatible with Ch3 for some reason, which is why the dev had an additional game on Newgrounds where a save from Ch2 could be fixed so it was compatible with Ch3 (though it seems to not be there anymore?)
But now that you mention cheats... I actually have no clue about that and whether it relates to the initial problem. What I can say is that it also resets my saves since the (fixed) full Ch3 version, though cheating was just fine in Ch3 beta (initial full release). I still have the files of both versions, which is why I say that. So it might actually be intentional anti-cheat rather than a bug.
Though in this case, if it actually is anti-cheat, I don't get it why he doesn't just lower the stats and gives the according points for increasing the stats for the appropriate level in that chapter, except if he actually does have a strict no-cheat-policy and wants to punish the player.
But on the other hand, it could also just be a bug resulting from cheating, i.e. some sort of non-intentional anti-cheat. I could imagine that the dev made certain adjustments to the according chapter and if those are exceeded the data can't be appropriately read, thus resetting it to player level 1. What I mean by adjustments is that the dev wouldn't expect yet that the players would have such high stats, thus they are exceeding a certain limit what can be loaded / saved, and it often is the case that such data isn't just getting capped, but rather reset either to nil (undefined) or 0 (in this case player level 1 with no stats).
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That is correct. (And also why we literally have different gender tags)
In this case however, to all we know: He only has one sex. That being his hyper penis. (At least he's never shown or addressed having a vulva. But if he does, it would have to be micro as we haven't seen any signs of it.)
And he has a feminine appearance. But is basically trying to be the biggest mega-chad possible xD Exclusively focusing on the "incubus part" of his identity.
True, I did reply to one more of those quotes, my bad. It was more of an afterthought.
And oh, I thought you meant chapter 2 and 3.
And no, it's this game. Since I have the saves.
In general yes, a futa is a character with both sets of genitalia. It IS however VERY common for them to only have a penis. Yes, this does have a different term. But, people can't seem to figure that out. And just lump herms, dickgirls, shemales and etc into "futa". It's become the general term for anything with boobs and a penis. Anything else is irrelevant to most people.
And no: People simply refer to them as female, as to make it "no homo". (And most futa entirely skip any masculine parts, only taking the penis. Hence their feminine appearance.) This is evident in how most males refuse to let a futa have sex with "another man". Because "That would be gay". Which: If they now "are female", that would be straight. (Not to mention: The most commonly used futa archetype is the "dude with tits". Named so after that they act like "the dude" in a porno. But happen to have tits. They can 90+ % of the time be replaced by a male. And nothing changes.)
A succubus could technically gain a penis. As in general fluff wise: They are supposed to cater to a specific mans preference. And if that man wants dick...
And considering he exclusively uses his dick. Makes no claim to have a pussy or ANY interest to ever use one... it's not "optional" anymore. He can claim to be a centaur princess. That doesn't make it true. Actions speak louder than words. He has only expressed interest in raping and impregnating women. An incubus job. (fluff wise) And wants his son to "follow in his footsteps". By that reasoning, Soriel should grow a pussy at least once or twice just to "try it out" or "be more like his mom". But he doesn't. Nor is ever encouraged too. Both Soriel and Nen strive towards stereotypical/porn masculinity. And more or less consider only men able to be dominant. Based on their action. Words are just hot air unless backed up by something.
Secondly: It can't be skipped, it's mandatory. But that's not the point.
As you said: The dev added that scene intentionally. Giving us the info that 1: Nen impregnated Soriel's human mother. Thus being his biological father. 2: Nen invites him in, while casually raping the fairy/imp queen. And, this part is a bit hazy but 3: Making a remark about how it reminds him of how he met Soriel's mom. Along with the whole: "Be more like your dad! Embrace your demon side, rape girls!". We're just asked to accept a contradictory statement based on "because I said so". That's not hate speech. That's criticism... granted, I can say its pretty salty/snarky criticism. But I blame that on this being a pretty common occurrence. Though, it's usually a bit more blatant, like: The futa calls themselves "Big Daddy" or similar.
And lastly: I can't recall if it was explicitly. But considering the intro, where Nen is confirmed as a rapist. Along with the gameplay literally being "beat up, then rape your opponents". (Yes, it's "mind control", but that by definition isn't consensual xD) And Soriel does express a preference towards his mom. (Initially.) Not really approving of his dads manwhoring ways. Preferring to beat up/potentially murder the intruders at first. Then he gets scolded for not raping them, and reluctantly goes out to do that. Then finds out he is actually SUPER into that. It is then kinda implied that everyone is cool with it afterwards as "that's just how things work around there". Unless you have it implied/stated otherwise in the game. If so: Do let me know. As I can only go of the evidence I've been provided in game. But I might have missed something.
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Thanks for taking your time, because now that you answered more detailed it sounds less than hate speech and more genuine criticism.
I don't want to go further into the details to drag this any further out, but just some things I want to point out:
Like I said, I won't talk any further about futa, more because I can't and don't want to talk that much about the topic, but also because it relates mainly to the term succubus here.
I'm not actually sure how succubus and incubus are correctly defined, but the way I see it, it mostly goes around how they look like rather than who they are actually seducing (here a succubus seduces a female imp). So going by the appearance, a succubus is basically the female version and an incubus the male one. Going by the dominant traits I see it only appropriate to call a succubus "she" and and incubus "he", disregarding what genitalia they mainly use, like it is in this game.
By "skipping" I rather meant just clicking fast through the text, just a bad choice of words there as it implies actually skipping the scene.
And again about raping the human mother: Whether it is implied or not, it isn't a fact and yet you said it like if it were one, otherwise you should have said that it isn't actually confirmed. I nitpick here because whether or not something is implied, you should only state it like a fact if it actually is confirmed as one, otherwise it's just a theory.
Edit: If I don't address something, it is either because I can't say anything about it or just respect the opinion, though rarely I just skim over it.
Thanks for taking your time, because now that you answered more detailed it sounds less than hate speech and more genuine criticism.
I don't want to go further into the details to drag this any further out, but just some things I want to point out:
Like I said, I won't talk any further about futa, more because I can't and don't want to talk that much about the topic, but also because it relates mainly to the term succubus here.
I'm not actually sure how succubus and incubus are correctly defined, but the way I see it, it mostly goes around how they look like rather than who they are actually seducing (here a succubus seduces a female imp). So going by the appearance, a succubus is basically the female version and an incubus the male one. Going by the dominant traits I see it only appropriate to call a succubus "she" and and incubus "he", disregarding what genitalia they mainly use, like it is in this game.
By "skipping" I rather meant just clicking fast through the text, just a bad choice of words there as it implies actually skipping the scene.
And again about raping the human mother: Whether it is implied or not, it isn't a fact and yet you said it like if it were one, otherwise you should have said that it isn't actually confirmed. I nitpick here because whether or not something is implied, you should only state it like a fact if it actually is confirmed as one, otherwise it's just a theory.
Edit: If I don't address something, it is either because I can't say anything about it or just respect the opinion, though rarely I just skim over it.
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Where Do I Find The Up Grades For The Covenants? Looking For "Lust Scholar" "Pussy Hound"
"Reaper Of Hearts" "Girth Acolyte" And "Prince Of Pink" Or Are These For Future Games?
"Reaper Of Hearts" "Girth Acolyte" And "Prince Of Pink" Or Are These For Future Games?
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Depends? Which one of the 4 games are you talking about? And Yes, probably for future games... But I have played till the 3rd, no idea about the 4th
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Quick question, just imported my save from 1 to 2, only to find my stats are worse than the default while at a higher level (lvl 9 with 97 hp, while the default save is lvl 7 with 100 hp). What's up with this? Is there any way to fix the stats to be more reasonable without having the anti-cheat kick in, or is it just better to not bother importing saves? Only asking since gainin levels is harder at higher levels and starting with gimped stats at too high a level makes me concerned that it might make the game unwinnable at later content without cheating (which I don't really want to do).
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That's a good point... You just made me realize that I did a level 8 start with 87 hp on ch2... I didn't even realize it!!
But checking the ch3 (at least from my save file) I got a ch2 lv 13 start vs a normal lv 13 start.. and the stats were even.
I find ch2 very easy, so starting with a bit less of hp I don't think it would be a problem at all... I think that only ch3 deserve some attentions in that regard and from my save, stats are even (but again it's lv 13 with lv 13).
If the stats remain the same (ch2 to 3) I don't see any problem in starting ch2 with a tiny less of hp... OR.. I think you can simply start anew, maybe I'm wrong... But you don't import anything from ch1 except potions. At least on the surface of it of course... If he is doing something: "Hey! You played this game from ch1! Here some pats on the head achievements/special bonus or whatever".... we don't know about it
But checking the ch3 (at least from my save file) I got a ch2 lv 13 start vs a normal lv 13 start.. and the stats were even.
I find ch2 very easy, so starting with a bit less of hp I don't think it would be a problem at all... I think that only ch3 deserve some attentions in that regard and from my save, stats are even (but again it's lv 13 with lv 13).
If the stats remain the same (ch2 to 3) I don't see any problem in starting ch2 with a tiny less of hp... OR.. I think you can simply start anew, maybe I'm wrong... But you don't import anything from ch1 except potions. At least on the surface of it of course... If he is doing something: "Hey! You played this game from ch1! Here some pats on the head achievements/special bonus or whatever".... we don't know about it
hey quick question
can i obtain the other covenants in the same walktrought? or do i just stay with the one that i got?
can i obtain the other covenants in the same walktrought? or do i just stay with the one that i got?
If anybody here has played Chapter 4, has there been any signs if we get to pick up the other final Covenants we missed in Chapter 3? Also does the Hellcat "Sadistic Predation" passive net us a new reward that you can't get if you went through the back door? "Sadistic Predation" locks a foe into battle and prevents it from fleeing, so I'm hoping we get a unique Covenant extra for doing things the hard way and kicking in the front door.
What do people think is the best Covenant to get at the end? Khrys gives an enormous MP pool boost and an Ice Covenant, Synophi gives you Agil and a Neutral Covenant while Nefris gives you a balanced high stat raise and a Fire Covenant. Can't help but think Khrys is the obvious choice, 100mp free is a huge amount and we don't have an Ice Covenant (plus 40% chance of Freeze stun on that skill?) yet while we have Neutral/Fire, but what do others think? Neutral also comes with anti-nature (Crystalline/Soft) advantage, while Fire......is just Fire, no different then Cinder, just much more powerful.
What do people think is the best Covenant to get at the end? Khrys gives an enormous MP pool boost and an Ice Covenant, Synophi gives you Agil and a Neutral Covenant while Nefris gives you a balanced high stat raise and a Fire Covenant. Can't help but think Khrys is the obvious choice, 100mp free is a huge amount and we don't have an Ice Covenant (plus 40% chance of Freeze stun on that skill?) yet while we have Neutral/Fire, but what do others think? Neutral also comes with anti-nature (Crystalline/Soft) advantage, while Fire......is just Fire, no different then Cinder, just much more powerful.
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well, introspurt replied to me about my anti-cheat question, and he said he did in fact, intentionally, implement anti-cheat in the current chapter 3 of crimson keep, and I believe he intends to do so onwards in future chapters