spaceraider530
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Am I crazy or is chapter 1 bugged? tried replaying these and the chapter 1 intro imps can't be beat, they simply never dropped the items you need to restore hp or mp and thus wear you down. Farthest I got was 9/14 before having no hp and no mp with no way to restore any. Maybe just impossibly bad luck but I retried several times
EDIT: Worth mentioning here that I have tried both swf versions here and from the discord (though they seem to be identical) and am playing through Ruffle
EDIT2: Playing through Ruffle seemed to be the issue, able to get drops just fine now on a different flash player
EDIT: Worth mentioning here that I have tried both swf versions here and from the discord (though they seem to be identical) and am playing through Ruffle
EDIT2: Playing through Ruffle seemed to be the issue, able to get drops just fine now on a different flash player
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immortality cheat
if you find the MainTimeline script (by editing the SWF file (i use JPEXS Flash Editor)) and go to line 6000 something theres a method (function) called refreshHP (in JPEXS you can also just search for it under the tools tab) . in that function, change
if(this.playerHP < 0)
{
this.playerHP = 0;
}
to
if(this.playerHP < 0)
{
this.playerHP = 1;
}
and it makes you immortal
if you find the MainTimeline script (by editing the SWF file (i use JPEXS Flash Editor)) and go to line 6000 something theres a method (function) called refreshHP (in JPEXS you can also just search for it under the tools tab) . in that function, change
if(this.playerHP < 0)
{
this.playerHP = 0;
}
to
if(this.playerHP < 0)
{
this.playerHP = 1;
}
and it makes you immortal
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Yeah, just use the official Flash Player provided in the OP if you want to avoid issues, it's a common report made by many players when they use unofficial software.
The kicker is, I got curious one time and actually had a look at the game's code and was like "...but why". The loot generation function, while it has what I'd call coding no-nos, is still relatively straightforward. Prepare a loot array, determine the enemy, determine whether the enemy is tempted, roll for each item the enemy can drop using Math.random(), append to the loot array, and finally append some nones to the loot array, because the code elsewhere assumes there's at least 4 item slots so gotta make sure that there's always something for it to look at to decide if it should show anything in that slot or not. There's just not much here, meaning there's not much that can break, and most of the sussiest things appear elsewhere in the code in bits that do work (like you can start fights and the enemies are selected properly, and the randomness works for damage).
The only thing that comes to mind is that maybe the built in push function which in flash used to put things at the end of an array puts them in front now in the emulator, so instead of say ending the fight with ['Pink Liquid', 'Pink Liquid', 'none', 'none', 'none', 'none'] the generated loot ends up being ['none', 'none', 'none', 'none', 'Pink Liquid', 'Pink Liquid']. Then the game checks that oops the first 4 things are nones, clearly no loot has been obtained in the fight, and nothing is awarded.
This is the sort of basic assumption reversal that I'd expect many more games to break because in the emulator which worked perfectly fine in actual flash. Maybe they do, and maybe it's why? EDIT: Nope, not it! In fact when using items instead of nones it's still borked, so the problem is elsewhere. EDIT2: It's deeper still, because whatever happens between the end of combat and the loot screen also eats the "no item" text. Ah well, there goes that chance of a quick fix for android. Too bad.
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afraid if you waant to quick fix a Flash thing to make it work in a given s
The thing is with an emulator the phone doesn't interact with Flash directly, or at least it ideally shouldn't. The person who first brought up running it on a phone mentioned FlashArch, which ideally should just make a nice padded playpen for running whatever flash thing regardless of what goes on in the hardware - and we do know it works fine on some hardware so hey, if you're making a thing that maximizes compatibility it should work on all. So I had a look. The report was just that drops don't work good and everything else seemed fine. If it was just something like "oh the Math.random function isn't simulated right in the emulator and it always rolls badly" then a workaround could be bodged around quick. But naw, it's something deeper. The emulator simply simulates something incorrectly - not enough to crash, but enough to wreck specifically the "loot layer", drops and text and all. Maybe in a future version it will just work, but for now it's just >effort.
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ah i see. but, makes me wonder, if you had looked at the code, and that's not it, what is it then? maybe a general issue with the random itself, idk, or the emulator does some fixing out of some incinsistency with Flash versions (tbh i don't believe in the latter).
ehh nvm that's just a splurt out of curiosity, don't take it as a 'bughunt' request.
we'll see soon enough if it's still there in the Unity version.
Kisama33
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Chapter 1 doesn't have a save, the "Saved" message you see in screen it's only a momentary autosave to avoid having to backtrack too much if somehow you lose, when you close the game it's gone.
So you need to finish it in one go, should take around half hour to finish. Other chapters will have some sort of saving system (ch. 2 allows you to generate save codes you can load later, ch. 3 adds save slots).
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From discord server:
(Edit: new version, introspurt forgot to paint Badluck's nails).
(Edit: new version, introspurt forgot to paint Badluck's nails).
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Neat.
That reminds me, hopefully in chapter 8 we'll get the missing girl. They're not considered missable by the game after all, and with the collection complete there'd be no concern about any writing being wasted on "hey, maybe the player doesn't have that one" and so they could actually get some character development after that point rather than just being forever only mechanical powerups with no story presence at all.
Incidentally, the whole "he's tossing girls at you to make Magical Connections with even as he still holds a much stronger connection to them himself" would make for a pretty sweet net to spring at the player by surprise. (Un)Fortunately, the way he's been written makes turning him into a twist villain in a satisfying way rather hard.
I looked at the code but I don't actually know about Flash quirks, just some surface things that I gleaned and also behaviors I observed by modifying it. Basically though what's happening is there seems to be a layer on which the looting logic works and it just doesn't seem to appear. Maybe the emulator adds a hard limit on how deep this can go and so it simply trims it, no idea. I might still dick around with it a bit when I get bored but there's next to no chance that I'll fix it.ah i see. but, makes me wonder, if you had looked at the code, and that's not it, what is it then? maybe a general issue with the random itself, idk, or the emulator does some fixing out of some incinsistency with Flash versions (tbh i don't believe in the latter).
ehh nvm that's just a splurt out of curiosity, don't take it as a 'bughunt' request.
we'll see soon enough if it's still there in the Unity version.
I'm fairly sure the "Unity version" will be its own new thing entirely which will at best import art assets, so there's basically no way to even import this bug. Also it'll probably be its own .exe like Eld, so no real way to try to garage-port it onto Android. On the plus side, Unity apparently offers a simple "export to Android" option so maybe the people interested in that will get a native Android version released by the dev himself.
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Small update about the static scenes for chapter 8.
The decision to add multiple routes in chapter 3 is the 2nd thing introspurt regrets doing the most in CK.
You don't need to worry about that, it's confirmed you will get the "missing" Badluck girl in the next chapter. In the compiled version you will obtain them in a fixed order. Synophi and Nefris covenants will be obtained in chapter 3 and Khrys in 5/8(?).
The decision to add multiple routes in chapter 3 is the 2nd thing introspurt regrets doing the most in CK.
I don't mind the multiple routes. Sort of. Specifically I liked the option to do the Nefris fight even though it made very little sense plot-wise, it's a bit like the bosses from chapters 6-7. I wonder how he'll handle that, if you're supposed to get both her and Synophi in chapter 3. "We gotta go fight Nefris for newly added plot reasons oops the main door's locked, gotta go down the secret passage after all"?
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You're right, he plans to tackle that like that, he thinks it makes sense for Rithris to control that vector of entrance as soon as she had taken control
