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So you'll no longer develop this game's version?
So you'll no longer develop this game's version?
No, my apologies.So you'll no longer develop this game's version?
Ok thanks to answering. It would be nice to put the abandoned tag on this one though.No, my apologies.
There are a lot of bugs, holes or things to fix in this version. I think on the contrary that it is common sense to do an overhaul as soon as possible under these conditions. You'll never build a big, sturdy tower on a wet cardboard shack.Is the reboot because of significant rewrites or because you improved your graphics? If it's graphics related, I feel like this move (abandon/reboot) is a huge marketing/progress error on your part. Doing this so early on while building a reputation will likely backfire. I think it would have been better to close this as chapter 1 or maybe season 1 and then marking as "complete" instead of the suicidal "abandoned" mark. Then moving forward with a new chapter and just picking up where this one left off. The concept of this game had me watching closely, but now I have pause without an explanation given. Just my 2 cents.
Like I said, if it's more than graphic improvement based, then I understand rebooting it. The dev had previously mentioned efforts to upgrade their graphics card, and if that is the foundational reason, then it will just be more of the same with only marginal improvements that are not worth the effort. If the reason for rebooting is more than just graphics such as things you mentioned, then sure it's worth it...as long as the dev makes it explicitly clear of the things to improve in the new version. But they must be significant improvements or it just ends up being a cardboard foundation instead of a paper foundation. The dev also needs to be very clear of this reasoning on this versions top page, as the reboot still isn't officially approved in new games and as a result people only see this abandoned version and have no clue a new one is out.There are a lot of bugs, holes or things to fix in this version. I think on the contrary that it is common sense to do an overhaul as soon as possible under these conditions. You'll never build a big, sturdy tower on a wet cardboard shack.
I get what you mean though, regarding the "Abandoned" tag, but nothing suicidal. To rename it to chapter 1 and pretend that it is finished in this state is what would be suicidal. A good communication on the OP to explain the changes and the revamp and the players will understand. Communicating and asking for help from the community of players, but especially Devs is important to progress in game development.
Just my two cent too
There are a lot of bugs, holes or things to fix in this version. I think on the contrary that it is common sense to do an overhaul as soon as possible under these conditions. You'll never build a big, sturdy tower on a wet cardboard shack.
I get what you mean though, regarding the "Abandoned" tag, but nothing suicidal. To rename it to chapter 1 and pretend that it is finished in this state is what would be suicidal. A good communication on the OP to explain the changes and the revamp and the players will understand. Communicating and asking for help from the community of players, but especially Devs is important to progress in game development.
Just my two cent too
Is the reboot because of significant rewrites or because you improved your graphics? If it's graphics related, I feel like this move (abandon/reboot) is a huge marketing/progress error on your part. Doing this so early on while building a reputation will likely backfire. I think it would have been better to close this as chapter 1 or maybe season 1 and then marking as "complete" instead of the suicidal "abandoned" mark. Then moving forward with a new chapter and just picking up where this one left off. The concept of this game had me watching closely, but now I have pause without an explanation given. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah, unfortunately some developers end up only milking their patreons. Sadly I guess the next chapter of OnceanLabe will be "Where it all ends"Like I said, if it's more than graphic improvement based, then I understand rebooting it. The dev had previously mentioned efforts to upgrade their graphics card, and if that is the foundational reason, then it will just be more of the same with only marginal improvements that are not worth the effort. If the reason for rebooting is more than just graphics such as things you mentioned, then sure it's worth it...as long as the dev makes it explicitly clear of the things to improve in the new version. But they must be significant improvements or it just ends up being a cardboard foundation instead of a paper foundation. The dev also needs to be very clear of this reasoning on this versions top page, as the reboot still isn't officially approved in new games and as a result people only see this abandoned version and have no clue a new one is out.
The biggest thing to worry about with reboots is the time it takes for the new version to catch up in the story to the old version..most devs take months even years in some cases to catch back up to the previous story. That can be hugely harmful to peoples interests. OceanLab's Where it all Began was totally ruined because of exactly this reason. It's been maybe 3 years of them rewriting that game and they still only have chapter 1 done with 5 more chapters just to catch back up to their half written story. I supported them on patreon for maybe a year of throwing my money away before I finally realized their deception.
Yea really sad and bizarre, because I initially started supporting that developer specifically because of their previously impeccable track record of regular and significant update history up to that point..Yeah, unfortunately some developers end up only milking their patreons. Sadly I guess the next chapter of OnceanLabe will be "Where it all ends"
I was thinking the same: I found this project interesting, until I saw the revamp it's a sandbox. Another disappointment I'll not follow anymore.Lmfao the dev abandoned this pretty decent VN to instead work on a SANDBOX reboot. I've never seen a more definitive self-sabotage than this, dude just bodied any success this would have had.
And it did, my past self.Let see if this game will become another in the endless halls of abandoned games in this site.
You were right past me!Let see if this game will become another in the endless halls of abandoned games in this site.