Hard countered? NO! You're just not getting the point. My point was that she was BEFORE a pure and loving girl BUT she was THEN changed due to all the facts I've listed previously changing her character.
In simple terms she was a nice girl before but then she found and fell for lust (like 99% of all other FeMC in NTR games) and she changed (but regardless of the outcome she was nevertheless still a victim of those schemes and deceits).
But what you and the other guy have been saying was that she was like that from the very beginning which is BS.
You've only point out one moment in the game (the start of the path of ending 5/6) and come on by that point she was an 100% a changed woman ...
Let's do a direct comparison with the other Stockholm symdrome of the game Tori.
She was like a perfect sister at the start of the game, but then what happened? Was a victim of rape, and the thing kept going, started to enjoying it eventually falling for lust, thus becoming a different person in the process.
She was a key part of the process of corrupting Lotia and making Imos miserable by making those drugs without knowing what those were for but even if she knew she would'nt care since at that point in the game her priorities shifted and Ace became more important to her than her brother (damn her epilogue on ending 5/6 ....)
At last this is what NTR porn is all about no?
I mean welcome to a stable of a standard corruption game where you take a prim and proper girl and then you make her go through the pleasure of sex therefore changing her into a completely different person.
But like i said previously the girl in question was still a victim.
Example.
Let's say If you got a killer, let's call him "Alpha", and then you have a kid, let's call him "Beta".
Alpha is a serial killer and he kills the family of Beta, Beta then becomes a serial killer himself targeting the family of Alpha.
So here the dilemma:
How much blaming do give at each of the parties?
Beta for becoming like Alpha even though he got his valid reasons behind?
Alpha cause he's the root cause of everything?
Ah but here’s the thing. This too is actually countered by how she treated him upon their reunion. Let’s start from the beginning. Because when you actually pay attention saying that she was pure hearted is actually what lothia herself argues. You are looking at her the same way IMOs did
. Despite that not actually being true and the game showcasing it pretty clearly . This is showcased again by the very events and how she acted. If you only played through once you wouldn’t notice this, but allow me. Because the thing is what you’re not noticing is that lothia actually wasn’t forced and willingly participated in pretty much everything.
Let’s first start with how she acted before the game even started . Namley that the way lothia was raised and nurtured, it made Lothia see herself as a paragon of virtue, goodness, morality and more. And in her isolated, comfy villiage life she fit into it perfecly.
She never had the urge or need to force her will onto others. SHe was never left wanting more as she was beautiful. Resepcted, loved and through Imos given the seemignly best guy around who chose her above all others. And she was raised with the morality and ideals of a preistess and happiyl embaced them as she was rewarded for it.
She was essentially part of the religious upper class of the world. And this is reflected in how she presented herself as well as how she acted around others and her beliefs and morals.
But there in lies what made her evil but it wasn't obvious.
Lothia was quite littearly put on a pedastal. And from that Pedastal she was made a draconid ontop of that andthat Pedastal became a tower. Her life was perfect.
But then she met Thrash and her true nature started to slip out. And we see why she was chosen to be a Draconid.
Was it beacuse he showed her she didn't have to be good to get what she wanted? No.
It was that he showed her one thing. As did the prostitue.
Imos was weak and would always BE weak and that she would always be above him. And Lothia didn't like that. So she tried to help him at first. But gave up when it was made clear that her helping him risked her own social standing in the group aka it could make her look bad. So she turned on him fast. But let's look at her actions for a bit.
She enters a "relationship" with a human she is clearly more powerful than via a means thats effectively a massive temporary and artificial boost to her otherwise weak self.
Yet she gives up on Imos as if he ever had a hope in hell to somehow become as strong as a Draconid without... a dragons help.
This points to a very strange level cognitive dissonance where they believe that the power is theirs despite it being borrowed and "begged" for every month.
She was hoping for a human to somehow become as strong as a demi god without the literal handicap said demi gods are given.
The thing you’re forgetting is that at no point upon the reunion did lothia actually stand up for imos or defend him to vouch for him. At every single opportunity she always was ready to side with the group over him. She never once actually put herself on the line openly for him. If you try to think of a single time, she actually did. It was always in private, and whenever it became public, she was helping she quickly backed off.
She only attempted to resist thrash when he was directly trying to pull something on her, but never when it was on imos.
But all that could be excused. And explained by her feeling nervous about the situation and knowing she would be unable to fight everyone at once. Ok.
However let’s look at The conversation with Maribelle the prostitue points that Lotia if you really pay attention was looking for excuses to not be with Imos and that she didnt have much respect for him. Using the excuses Maribelle handed like Imos coming to despise her was a plausible mirror or basically the truth was because Imos wasnt strong....That meant that Lotia would have to be the bread winner.
A position she did not want. Lotia was the one who would come to despise Imos, the excuse was conveniently given to avoid a moment of self relection. This is made very clear by lothia never actually denying or rejecting what was being said to her. She weakly tries to say imos isn’t like that. But she never says what is being spoken about is wrong or incorrect. Instead she absorbs it without conflict.
She wanted someone strong who could take care of her and be her provider and give her a life she felt would be comfortable where she could not have a care beyond him and their children. She wanted to settle down and be a loving wife and mother. However she didn’t want to have to be the breadwinner or even an equal partner. She wanted to be taken care of.
She realized fromt he way the group treated Imos and how he couldn't fight back and had no useful skills to offer it, that she had to carry him on her back.
And she really, really didn't like that. But the problem was she watned to break up with him...Without knowing how to do it in a way that wouldn't make her look selfish and terrible.
As even though they weren't an offical couple, Imos was still her lover and he had only done everything he could for her and was loving, kind and warm to her. She had no reason or excuse...Until it was handed to her and she took it.
This is backed up by her sneakily trying to make Imos seem helpful early on and got called out for it at the expense of Imos.
She wanted Imos to be more powerful than he really was and used means to make herself feel better about her choice in partner because she couldnt handle the truth that she beared the weight of the relationship because she was the strongest amongst the 2 of them.
Maribelle says Imos had nothing to offer besides his kindness which as far as we know is true. Thrash had resources and can pillage, steal and buy as much as necessary becauae he had the power to do so.
This plays into Lotias dislike of being a working mother and Thrash is now a much better partner purely due to resources.
As well upon re-checking. Lothia actually did try to fight Thash head on...And lost to him. And pretty much the moment after she did, she changed. Big time.
Lotia has horrible impulse control and will attack someone if she thinks she can win. The fight and loss vs Thrash and her more sudden submissive and mildly obsessive behavior afterwards points that she valued power, something she tried to make Imos seem like he had and hoped he would gain then subsequently giving up on the idea.
If you don’t believe me, go back and check for yourself. The moment after she lost to him lothia stops resisting him and actually begins to apologize and become submissive to him and actively seeking him out and making steps to pursue him. There is no breaking down it’s incredibly sudden. She becomes obsessed with him.
She then oddly believes only she can deal with Thrash, someone with far more experience than her, by trying to manipulate him. She needed a reason to be around him because she was attracted to him.
Was she doused with aprodisacs? Yes. But the thing is that didn't really play into her decicion making. WHen she went to 'challange' thrash to sexual actions she was really just trying to manipulate him into developing feelings for her using sex as a weapon against him. Not getting that, that wasn't going to really work on him.
You might say she did it because she wanted to protect imos. However the thing is her reaction upon being outed for doing so in secret clearly shows that he was not on her mind.
But before that?
she has in turn effectively begun neglecting Imos entirely showing up only when something negative has been said about him and her believing these negative things purely out of convenience of her actual desires. She wasn't acutally kept away from Imos. Upon replaying she acutally had plenty of opportunity to go see him.
Nobody acutally tried to stop her from leaving the villa. SHe just chose on her own to NOT go and see him and instead hang aound the villa and be close to Thrash. Of her own free will.
All the while being aware of Imos feeling lonley and missing her. obivously this is really bad looking. So.
She needed imos to be the bad guy to justify her actions.
As well, as said before when she was outed for giving sexual favors to Thrash after coming to yell at Imos for apprently having sex with a prostitute with no proof after she had basically been ingoring him and not even trying to spend time with him and then again after she had sex with Thrash for 3 days unaware Imos was forced to watch….she repeatedly scrambled for excuses.
Excuses Thrash conveniently gave her to use to avoid any responsibility in the matter.
All of this Lothia did willingly and without outside pressure. All Thrash really did was have people talk to her. He didn't even acutally threaten her up to this point.
After Aina he realized that force and threats wasn't going to work on a female draconid used to having power of her own.
What say you to these events exactly as the story laid them out for us?