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Someone didn't pay attention to the dialog in the last update did they. Martin is on his way down seaside to pick up his car
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It does if the right choices were made earlier if you followed the walkthrough
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Martin is always going to be a choice. I would imagine, even if you made every choice for Martin - before we get to that scene, you will still have a “bug out” choice ... or several ... similar to the shower and masturbation scene with Elena and D.
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A big fat NO from me to, MFF is ok but not MMF.
No other male will every touch D.
- Nov 11, 2017
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Not at all commenting on your personal choice, but I thought about that posture before the last update and eventually considered that it could be hypocritical and even selfish of me as the MC: if the relationship becomes more agreeably "open" between the two of them, it really should be her equal choice as to who they bring into their shared orbit and as her boyfriend she deserves full support in that regard, IMHO.
I've come to the point where I have no problems with her growing to her fullest potential and experiencing more of life as seems enriching for her (and as a dedicated couple with the MC, even if they do some sharing with others).
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D works as a model in a Koko video and one thing leads to another and a Koko+D hookup.
On another topic I wonder when will D tell the MC about her and Elena's relationship? After Elean sent the two of them her nude pic D was pondering if Elena had already told her father and he thought it was too awkward to discuss with her. It was interesting that D didn't regret her actions with Elena, just wondering if her father knew about her.
On another topic I wonder when will D tell the MC about her and Elena's relationship? After Elean sent the two of them her nude pic D was pondering if Elena had already told her father and he thought it was too awkward to discuss with her. It was interesting that D didn't regret her actions with Elena, just wondering if her father knew about her.
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Correct, what nonsense is reaching her fullest potential, by having sex with Martin?She can come to her "fullest potential" after the VN is complete.
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Maybe Graham and his daughter could invite Martin to nudist beach along with MC and D.
D is far more confident and conscious about her body now and probably wouldn't be a problem for her (especially if you have enough exhibition/share points).
Doesn't have to be a full blown sex scene, just some teasing that would give Martin heart attack.
I downloaded the latest version but I can't progress, the version ends at the same place as the last one is anyone else having this problem?
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This is just me, but I feel Koko has too much of a “mystical role” to play to make her a sexual partner. Much like The Oracle from The Matrix.
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D’s Silver Ring and Chekhov’s Gun
I have some very good ideas with this, but if anyone wants to chime in. Doubt I haven’t thought of any idea you post, but it would certainly help hone the idea finally picked.
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Chekhov's gun is a dramatic principle that states that every element in a story must be necessary, and irrelevant elements should be removed; elements should not appear to make "false promises" by never coming into play. The statement is recorded in letters by Anton Chekhov several times, with some variation:
"Remove everything that has no relevance to the story. If you say in the first chapter that there is a rifle hanging on the wall, in the second or third chapter it absolutely must go off. If it's not going to be fired, it shouldn't be hanging there."
"One must never place a loaded rifle on the stage if it isn't going to go off. It's wrong to make promises you don't mean to keep." Chekhov, letter to Aleksandr Semenovich Lazarev (pseudonym of A. S. Gruzinsky), 1 November 1889. Here the "gun" is a monologue that Chekhov deemed superfluous and unrelated to the rest of the play.
"If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there." From Gurlyand's Reminiscences of A. P. Chekhov, in Teatr i iskusstvo1904, No. 28, 11 July, p. 521.
Note the difference between Chekhov's gun and foreshadowingChekhov was commenting on narrative detail and what details the writer should include. Foreshadowing only vaguely implies that an event will take place in the future, while the Chekhov's gun principle guarantees that an event will happen further aljong in the story.
I have some very good ideas with this, but if anyone wants to chime in. Doubt I haven’t thought of any idea you post, but it would certainly help hone the idea finally picked.
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Chekhov's gun is a dramatic principle that states that every element in a story must be necessary, and irrelevant elements should be removed; elements should not appear to make "false promises" by never coming into play. The statement is recorded in letters by Anton Chekhov several times, with some variation:
"Remove everything that has no relevance to the story. If you say in the first chapter that there is a rifle hanging on the wall, in the second or third chapter it absolutely must go off. If it's not going to be fired, it shouldn't be hanging there."
"One must never place a loaded rifle on the stage if it isn't going to go off. It's wrong to make promises you don't mean to keep." Chekhov, letter to Aleksandr Semenovich Lazarev (pseudonym of A. S. Gruzinsky), 1 November 1889. Here the "gun" is a monologue that Chekhov deemed superfluous and unrelated to the rest of the play.
"If in the first act you have hung a pistol on the wall, then in the following one it should be fired. Otherwise don't put it there." From Gurlyand's Reminiscences of A. P. Chekhov, in Teatr i iskusstvo1904, No. 28, 11 July, p. 521.
Note the difference between Chekhov's gun and foreshadowingChekhov was commenting on narrative detail and what details the writer should include. Foreshadowing only vaguely implies that an event will take place in the future, while the Chekhov's gun principle guarantees that an event will happen further aljong in the story.
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That's only one small facet of what she might want to experience and learn from trying out, essentially. No single event or sexual path turns her into something new - it's merely one expression of her path towards finding what she likes in life by herself and with others. Having an "open relationship" or even an established three-way relationship is actually tough to manage in the long term, as well: it requires a lot of trust, maturity and communication.
As RustyV said, her adult choices are can now be expressed and realized with the MC, but even beyond over time. That's the idea of reaching her fullest potential: he should support her desire to try new things and help her be safe while doing so, but if he loves her truly, also be prepared that she will find a new set of directions - maybe beyond their current orbit - that turns out to be what she wants and needs, after all. Her Pandora's Box seems wide open, now.
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Foreshadowing: "I don't need to teach junior gun safety. All my guns are locked up!"
Chekhov's Gun: In act 1 the gun safe is left open with loaded guns in it.