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Jack73
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Cheryl
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Where is this picture from? SecondLife? It was suggested that I join that...No so sure. Any thoughts?
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Sorry for the off-topic, but would you mind sharing a few titles then? Preferably VN that also have a Mac-version :angel:
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RobJoy
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No not really.
She looks too mature in that picture.
It would spoil the illusion.
But I agree with you, that in the picture here, the girl way better.
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I agree that Daughter is the "it" factor that has players the most captivated. I think there are a number of reasons for this - not least of which is her character's built in brakes to fast physical progression - and her related vulnerabilities. Find below a Patreon post I made back in May. I do feel both Elena and Georgina need, in their own way, those two elements (1-the "giftness" of opening up to the party in new and vulnerable sexual ways; and 2-the revealing and confession of emotional vulnerabilities)
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Two Postings from 29 May 2017 fromJeff Steel
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From the YouTube series "School of Life"
Emotional Pleasure in a Sexual Relationship:
"An important truth about sex: What is often most enjoyable about sex is not the physical process itself, so much as the idea of acceptance that underpins the act. The notion that another person likes us enough to accept us in output most raw and vulnerable state, and is, in our name, willing to lose control and surrender aspects of everyday dignity. It is this concept, far more than the deft touching of skin, that is what contributes to the dominant share of our pleasure. As we undress someone for the first time, or heed their requests to call them the very rudest words we know."
In essence, it is the acceptance of the other person - of us as a sexual partner, and then their acceptance of our various sexual related requests, that brings us emotional pleasure more than the actual sexual act.
In DMD, the slow acceptance of by D of F's advances is what draws us along. It is the acceptance of the kiss - followed by the French kiss - and so on the draws us on. It is why sexual intercourse is not the end, but it is D's acceptance of further sex acts in step-by-step stages that will continue to be the emotional driver of the chase after F achieves intercourse.
I recall a study of serotonin and persons receiving a college degree found that one's levels spiked right before one walked the graduation stage. Therefore, the act of receiving a degree spiked serotonin right before and at the moment of receiving the degree. Having the degree itself was not the catalyst - it was the act of receiving.
Therefore, it is the act of receiving acceptance from D at each stage that is key, and not the actual act. However, the act of acceptance by D can continue during the act. First intercourse itself can start with just a little, to deeper, to harder, to different unusual position - one act might have multiple acceptances during the same continuous act.
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Also From the YouTube series "School of Life"
Attractiveness:
"What makes us attractive as a potential partner is the degree to which we can recognize our own failings. It's not that we should exhibit our own flaws, what is really sweet and charming - that is, powerfully reassuring - is weakness handled strongly. For example, it can be hugely seductive to drop inn with an air of confidence and wit: "You know, coming here to this date made me a bit nervous". That's a sign of both insight and strength. We're not actually being nervous, but are showing the vulnerability but have an overview on our anxieties and the capacity to handle them lightly. At the heart of seductive self-revelation is the idea: "I'm a touch crazy, of course, but very much sane enough to tell you about it in a modest and in-hysterical way." We have a good relationship with our own shadow side."
"The second hugely seductive move is to signal that we view the other person with a mixture of tenderness and realism. It's often imagined that it'll be seductive to convey an air of adoration, to hint that the other strikes us as exceptionally attractive or accomplished. But surprisingly, it is deeply worrying to be deeply adored, because everyone knows, from the inside, that they don't deserve intense acclaim. So seduction is a combination of showing you like the person a lot, yet you can see their frailty clearly enough that you can cope with them and forgivethem with gentle indulgence. We crave not admiration, but to be properly known and yet still liked and forgiven."
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D and F have these two factors - vulnerability and acceptance - in Spades! I really think this is on reason why their relationship is so engaging. F has to deal with things like his pressing too fast and his anger; D has debilitating shyness and innocence. Both accept that in each other and stay in the relationship dance together.
Now look at the other characters and their relationships with each other and F. They are lacking admissions of weaknesses and, thus, are not in a position to give or take acceptance of weaknesses.
Elena - What is her weakness(es)? One, perhaps, is an inability to be vulnerable. Perhaps her being "slutty" is a crutch. Because she can't be vulnerable, she attracts others with sex instead. Ultimately, she might be intensely lonesome given her flaw. As such, imagine if F were able to get Elena over this issue (and others possible issues - such as possible daddy issues with her own doctor father), a relationship between Elena and F would be that much more attractive.
Jennifer - I'm not sure what flaw she has. I first thought she might be the one who ultimately wants to overly control in a relationship. Unlike Elena and D, Jennifer is so afraid of being hurt in a relationship that she always wants to be in control. This was my early imagining of her. After the interaction on Jennifer with Elena, since neither of them showed each other any significant vulnerabilities, I'm not sure where Jennifer stands. She needs something - but what.
Georgina - She also needs a vulnerability and needs to see F's vulnerability. After many years of work with F, she appears to be starting moves on F. Is that she previously was in a relationship that ended, with all the self doubt that follows a broken relationship? Or is it F just got out of one, and Georgina has been lonely for months or years and is nervous she will miss her chance to land F and end her loneliness. So full of pathos.
Perhaps the reason F/D relationship is so fantastic, and the other characters and their relationships are not at that level, is the presence and lack of vulnerabilities and acceptance.
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After rereading that post, sometimes I come up with some great insights. Yes, I have a big egoee head sometimes.
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I take your point. Not talking about physical appearance, what in your mind makes Saughter more engaging than Elena and Georgina and what would you do to bring their characters more up to speed?
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If I was going to pick one of them for personal preference it would Georgina.
I like a woman that's lived a bit and knows what she wants out of life. If it was just the sex side of things then Elena would be first. She's forward and I reckon would be up for experimenting a bit.
I follow the game because I do like the story behind it and the characters but the daughter is far too inexperienced and naive for my personal tastes. I've got a high sex drive and don't have the patience to be a teacher in that regard.
That's the generalising I mentioned though, not all of us here are here for the daughter. Granted that's the game so that's what we follow but if given the choice i'd take Georgina.
You also see sex in a very romantic way but some of us are a bit more, I guess primal would be the easiest way to say it.
I don't like how you view Elena as slutty and calling it a crutch. Some people just like sex, that isn't a weakness to be overcome, it's just how some people are.
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Hi, I hope someone can help me. I've just installed the game + patch + extra content and when i start the game after a few dialogue the game crash and display this error
I searched on the forum and google but couldn't find the solution to my problem
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has downloads of Japanese VNs that have been translated to English, you can go there to see if they have Mac versions. They also have a forum where people can help you. The last Japanese VN i played was Funbag Fantasy but I don't know if there's a Mac version yet.
atlas114
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@TCMS, could you please add these to the preview thread?
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Winter is here!
This is going to be one of the outfits for the photoshoot. Do you like it?
Edit: @TCMS updated image
many thanks to Maldus and Vespak as always for sharing DMD teasers! :FeelsGoodMan:
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Good points.
Must admit, between May and now, Elena has become more interesting. Not just because they've almost slept together (I'd might like you better if we slept together. - Romeo Void). But we know about her relationship with her father and we start to see the sexual control dynamics begin to be slowly played between her and MC. I'd like to see that continue. She also has other issues hinted at by the Riccardo sex scene. Does she walk from a relationship that is not sexually satisfying out of the gate? If so, why? Maybe sex is a joy and not a crutch - but there are some indications she has trouble with an intimate relationship. Sex is easy; being vulnerable and intimate without sex is hard. It would certainly be something that would add tension and drama to whatever F/Elena - F/D/Elena - D/Elena matchups are expected in the future.
I also like the more engaged Elena - "let me show D porn" - and hopefully, "D, let's take a shower together" (hinted at for Day 12). Elena has the possibility to move D along sexually faster than MC alone. Therefore, Elena is my new best friend.
As for Georgina, I totally agree, but hope that she can be developed better. I would not call the model industry the most sexually conservative industry. I could see, if Georgina did modeling work before the story began (which must be the case since she cites herself as knowledgeable enough to show D the ropes)... that Georgina has had sexual partners from the industry (other models, a photographer, etc). A shoot in the Bahamas, bunch of models relaxing after a long production day at beach locations, alcohol - Georgina could likely have those experiences along with the boyfriends at home attracted to her: the bassist from a local rock band; a local business owner who liked her after using her in a print ad.
I'd like to see both Elena and Georgina developed more so there is less comments like "this game is really great because of Daughter, but really wish I didn't have to deal with Georgina (or Elena)". I'd rather see: "I want to play all paths because they are all great in their own way."
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I'd say we could divide DMD players into two main groups, one formed by those who enjoy the slow build up of father/daughter relationship and get a lot of pleasure with each step taken, and another group whose members want more than anything in the game all sexual variations foreseen for the finished game. Not that one group is better than the other, these are just two different approaches.
Sex is just a part of life. But it is a very intimate feature of one's life. When someone is ready to involve just about anyone in such a private and intimate part of his/her life, like Elena, it is a sign of some psychological issue. It could indeed be a crutch to help him/her dealing with it.
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