Uthuriel

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well you know saying about deaf ears etc.

it took them months (2ish years) to mark 1 game abandoned even with reporting it abandoned when it popped on alerts.
I'm not surprised about that... :KEK:
 
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Trikus

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Most gamers I know are completionist. When they play the game, they complete all content. Optional or not is irrelevant.

I use to play a MMORPG game called Runescape where they have like 30 skills of players to train. Most of the skills are fun and useful to train. But theres 2-3 that people find boring, grindy, and useless but they do it anyway since its part of the game. For example, I shit you not, one of the skills in that game was fire-making. Literally clicking on a log and lighting it is how you train that skill. IIRC, you would need to repeat that action 1 million times to max that skill. But not before you either cut a tree (which is another skill called wood cutting) or buy it from another person.

I imagine something similar is happening here. Its not as simple as ignoring the content if they know its there and part of the game.
That is one of the dumbest arguments ever. Why would a completionist even start this game when they know there is content they don't want to see before they even start? That is literally why the tags are at the top of every page for a game. Let me give you an example. One of the tags is pregnancy. Now, if I'm a completionist and pregnancy in porn disgusts me, why would I even download the game if I knew I would have to see that content? That is simply moronic. Maybe you should actually read what genres a game will have before you play them if you are a completionist.

That said, if you must go through it, simply go to the settings, turn on skip unseen text, transitions and after choices. Disable the animations too. Hold down ctrl and you will be able to skip through the content without reading it.
 

Trikus

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I am already on it - got no response so far.
I requested to remove that false tag - even showed them their own definition.
Also requested a reason why this tag has been applied in the first place at all, as it doesnt go with the rules at all.

Waiting for response
The problem is they don't have a more appropriate MMF tag so NTR is the closest one available, even if it is 100% bullshit. They refuse to add more tags which means content can't be properly advertised. And you are right, it goes completely against their definition of NTR so shouldn't be applied here.
 

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That is one of the dumbest arguments ever. Why would a completionist even start this game when they know there is content they don't want to see before they even start? That is literally why the tags are at the top of every page for a game. Let me give you an example. One of the tags is pregnancy. Now, if I'm a completionist and pregnancy in porn disgusts me, why would I even download the game if I knew I would have to see that content? That is simply moronic. Maybe you should actually read what genres a game will have before you play them if you are a completionist.

That said, if you must go through it, simply go to the settings, turn on skip unseen text, transitions and after choices. Disable the animations too. Hold down ctrl and you will be able to skip through the content without reading it.
Your premise is flawed which is why you don’t see it.

There are more than one place (other than f95zone) that this game gets discovered. Some places do not have tags at all. Additionally in places that do, including F95zone, they do not add those tags until after the game has those types of content.

for example, newly released games have limited tags until there’s content. (Eg they cannot add vaginal sex tag if there’s none present in the game.) And let me remind you sharing content was only added to chapter 3. About 2-3 years after the game came out…
 

Trikus

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Your premise is flawed which is why you don’t see it.

There are more than one place (other than f95zone) that this game gets discovered. Some places do not have tags at all. Additionally in places that do, including F95zone, they do not add those tags until after the game has those types of content.

for example, newly released games have limited tags until there’s content. (Eg they cannot add vaginal sex tag if there’s none present in the game.) And let me remind you sharing content was only added to chapter 3. About 2-3 years after the game came out…
And let me remind you that the list of planned fetishes for the game were advertised and MMF content was on that list. This content was known about for years before it was finally added.

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Maybe users should check what is planned for a game before they start playing when it comes to playing porn games and AVNs if they have a strong aversion to certain genres, especially if they are a completionist and have to see everything a game has to offer. If a website has the game that doesn't advertise the genres, maybe take the time to figure it out instead of crying about it later. This is also a pitfall of only using pirate sites and not getting the game from the developers. Take responsibility for your negligence.
 

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And let me remind you that the list of planned fetishes for the game were advertised and MMF content was on that list. This content was known about for years before it was finally added.

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Maybe users should check what is planned for a game before they start playing when it comes to playing porn games and AVNs if they have a strong aversion to certain genres, especially if they are a completionist and have to see everything a game has to offer. If a website has the game that doesn't advertise the genres, maybe take the time to figure it out instead of crying about it later. This is also a pitfall of only using pirate sites and not getting the game from the developers. Take responsibility for your negligence.
Lol idk why your lecturing me about pirating games on this forum of all places but alrighty…

New players have to start from somewhere. DMD is one of the most iconic adult games out there and For a lot of people DMD is one of their first game. Did you do research on your first game? Did you go to their personal website and read up on it? Or were you new and like most people see it advertise from somewhere and just jump into it because it looks interesting?

i guess this is a learning experience for them to do research on the game before playing…
 

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MOD UPDATE:
I've got my changes done, Scene Gallery updated and tested.
So now all that's left is to test the v0.34 content and everything is ready to go.
I've done all I am today so I will do the testing tomorrow and release the mod update tomorrow.
 

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6 months? Where did you pull that from? DMD v0.33 released at the end of November. In December they were working on revising Chapter 1 of Sunshine Love. They took January off as normal. In February they started Chapter 2 of Sunshine Love which released at the end of February. They started work on DMD v0.34 in March. They were working on this update for 6 weeks, not 6 months.
Perhaps you should have read what I quoted?
 

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when do you guys get that they are NOT working on this for 6 months?
The last update has been end of November.
After that, they went back on developing "Sunshine Love" as they alternate between those 2 games. Release of SL has been end of December (which wasn't even an update, but a revision of chapter 1).
January the developer team takes a month off (which is known and well deserved).
So end of January they again worked on Sunshine Love for the next content Update, which was out end of February.

NOW - after that - they worked again on DMD which is out now.

In other words, i don't get why you (lots of you - not just YOU alone) still think they worked on DMD for 6 months.
Even if, it would be less than 5 months (end of November -> now mid April).
Still it's just 6 weeks where they worked on DMD again.

Just for the record:
Right now they are working again on a SL update and AFTER that update they will start to work on DMD again, which will probably start end of MAY, so you get the next DMD update somewhen in late JUNE.
Maybe you are ESL and my wording was weird so sorry, but I was arguing against the fact that they actually worked 6 months on this.
 

EmilIrving

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Lol idk why your lecturing me about pirating games on this forum of all places but alrighty…

New players have to start from somewhere. DMD is one of the most iconic adult games out there and For a lot of people DMD is one of their first game. Did you do research on your first game? Did you go to their personal website and read up on it? Or were you new and like most people see it advertise from somewhere and just jump into it because it looks interesting?

i guess this is a learning experience for them to do research on the game before playing…
He's lecturing you to do your research before you complain about features the Devs said will be included in their site/page... So you wouldn't be 'blindsided' from them due to your own negligence.
 
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White Lamp

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He's lecturing you to do your research before you complain about features the Devs said will be included in their site/page... So you wouldn't be 'blindsided' from them due to your own negligence.
And you obviously stop reading after my first sentence… reread the next part and answer me as if I asked you.

Also had you followed our conversation you would know I did not “complain” about anything. If you want to insert yourself into peoples conversation, at least read everything first…
 

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Again, please learn the difference between sharing, swinging, cheating, cucking and whatever the hell is going on in the fan-art thread. Sharing is not a blanket term for all kinds of acts featuring a different guy or girl from the MC and a LI.
I'm well aware of the meanings that F95 assigns to all of those tags. This isn't about nuances of tags. It's about expectations and the history of the evolution of this VN and the alterations of Patreon policies.

Tell you what. Go back, as I have, and read the contents of this tread since its inception. All 47000+ comments, you'll end up skimming 70%, but this debate isn't about tags. It's about market forces vs expectations, and the outrage of a very vocal minority about Mr. Dots moving to satisfy his paying market almost immediately.

Then you and I will have the common understanding of the history of this VN to discuss these topics.

Or you could simply search this thread for my prior comments, which on a number of occasions address this at various levels of detail.
 

Jeff Steel

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And let me remind you that the list of planned fetishes for the game were advertised and MMF content was on that list. This content was known about for years before it was finally added.

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Maybe users should check what is planned for a game before they start playing when it comes to playing porn games and AVNs if they have a strong aversion to certain genres, especially if they are a completionist and have to see everything a game has to offer. If a website has the game that doesn't advertise the genres, maybe take the time to figure it out instead of crying about it later. This is also a pitfall of only using pirate sites and not getting the game from the developers. Take responsibility for your negligence.
As you are directed to read the last several thousand of post and ruminate on the market forces that have affected DMD, you will note the truths I‘ve constantly posted in that:
1 - “a slow burn” has always been a literary choice and not a market choice;
2 - sharing with other men has been a literary choice;
3 - that the story has gone on to Chapter 4 has been a literary choice and not a market choice;
4 - limits on mmf and sharing with other men has been a market choice;
5 - that we may never have bestiality will end up being a market choice.

It is interesting how often people hold up 1-3 above and say they are market choices. Not that my postings over the years pointing out that is never been the case has ever changed their opinion. They appear to be in their little thought bubbles, immune to seeing anything but what they want to believe. For them, curiosity as to the truth appears to be absent.

They are all versions of Edgar Maddison Welch.
 
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As you are directed to read the last several thousand of post and ruminate on the market forces that have affected DMD, you will note the truths I‘ve constantly posted in that:
1 - “a slow burn” has always been a literary choice and not a market choice;
2 - sharing with other men has been a literary choice;
3 - that the story has gone on to Chapter 4 has been a literary choice and not a market choice;
4 - limits on mmf and sharing with other men has been a market choice;
5 - that we may never have bestiality will end up being a market choice.

It is interesting how often people hold up 1-3 above and say they are market choices. Not that my postings over the years pointing out that is never been the case has ever changed their opinion. They appear to be in their little thought bubbles, immune to seeing anything but what they want to believe. For them, curiosity as to the truth appears to be absent.
I've actually read the entire thread. My reaction to your comment is generally yes. But I rather strongly disagree that 2 has solely been a literary choice. Or perhaps I misunderstand exactly what you mean by a literary choice here.

I think that Mr. Dots paying market made it pretty clear very early what they didn't want for Dee. I could see possibilities around some limited very special case sharing, but little tolerance for daughter swapping or anything remotely similar. Even those limited case would have to be very carefully handled.

A case study on the evolution of this an perhaps 2 or 3 other VN's of similar age would be fascinating.
 

EmilIrving

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And you obviously stop reading after my first sentence… reread the next part and answer me as if I asked you.

Also had you followed our conversation you would know I did not “complain” about anything. If you want to insert yourself into peoples conversation, at least read everything first…
I would have injected myself through one of your earlier posts if I meant to call you out specifically. That said, I was at error by keeping "lecturing you" instead of swapping to "lecturing the morons". So it was my own fuck up. But if you truly want me to inject (and I know you are being hypothetical rhetorical, but will do so anyways).

I will talk about you defending the so called completionists. Let's be real, MOST gamers aren't completionists, they're either achievement hunters or just want a save that already got the achievements, or rather a save with a full gallery in a porn game's case.

And that's it, I will eject myself out cuz I won't want to be part of a thread's derailment than I already have.
 
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Walkthrough Mod / Cheat Mods / Scene Gallery (v0.33.1)
This is my Walkthrough Mod and Cheat Mods for Chap 3 and what it currently available for Chap 4.
I will continue to update Chap 4 as it gets released and will go back later to do some work for Chaps 1 & 2 but they are low priority right now and you'd be better off just using Lain's Mods for now.

The purpose of these mods, at least for Chap 3 on up, is to give the ability to do the Georgina & Jennifer Paths together while incorporating as much of the D solo/Elena/Jennifer/Georgina only paths into an Elena/Jennifer/Georgina Path while also fixing any missed grammar errors and small overlooked bugs. These mods will be based on Lains's Mods for the Walkthrough + Scene Gallery for Chap 1 & 2 and just the Scene Gallery for Chap 3 on up (less work for me and avoiding re-inventing the wheel).

Starting with v0.33.1 I am doing the Scene Gallery myself based on Lain's Scene Gallery mod.


Changes for Chap 1:
Coming Later

Changes for Chap 2:
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I'm well aware of the meanings that F95 assigns to all of those tags. This isn't about nuances of tags. It's about expectations and the history of the evolution of this VN and the alterations of Patreon policies.

Tell you what. Go back, as I have, and read the contents of this tread since its inception. All 47000+ comments, you'll end up skimming 70%, but this debate isn't about tags. It's about market forces vs expectations, and the outrage of a very vocal minority about Mr. Dots moving to satisfy his paying market almost immediately.

Then you and I will have the common understanding of the history of this VN to discuss these topics.

Or you could simply search this thread for my prior comments, which on a number of occasions address this at various levels of detail.
There is a very good reason that F95 assign those meanings to the tags: THAT IS THE MEANING OF THE TAGS EVERYWHERE ELSE!! I'm going to assume you come from a country with terrible sex education and got most of yours online from other people who don't know what they are talking about either. Also, expectations? The developers literally told you MMF content would be in this game YEARS ago. If you expected something different, sorry but that is on you.

Also, a reminder that even the walkthrough for Chapter 1 warned you about this content.

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The developers have practically screamed this content is coming, but so many act like it is new. It isn't.

Lol idk why your lecturing me about pirating games on this forum of all places but alrighty…

New players have to start from somewhere. DMD is one of the most iconic adult games out there and For a lot of people DMD is one of their first game. Did you do research on your first game? Did you go to their personal website and read up on it? Or were you new and like most people see it advertise from somewhere and just jump into it because it looks interesting?

i guess this is a learning experience for them to do research on the game before playing…
I'm not lecturing you on using pirate games, I'm saying that if you rely solely on them, without researching the game, especially sites that don't let you know the themes, then its on you if you see something you don't like. I personally don't like rape in my AVNs so I avoid games with that content, which I'm able to do by reading the tags.

As for my first game, yes, I admit I originally found it on a pirate site, and it actually was DMD way back in Chapter 1. I believe it was the update before Lucas tries to attack D in the apartment. But, there was a link on the main menu to visit the website. That is how I found the planned fetish list. I joined their Patreon (and later moved over to Subscribestar) because I liked their content and felt it was worth it. I forget how I found F95, probably just doing a search for other games.
 

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Walkthrough Mod / Cheat Mods / Scene Gallery (v0.33.1)
This is my Walkthrough Mod and Cheat Mods for Chap 3 and what it currently available for Chap 4.
I will continue to update Chap 4 as it gets released and will go back later to do some work for Chaps 1 & 2 but they are low priority right now and you'd be better off just using Lain's Mods for now.

The purpose of these mods, at least for Chap 3 on up, is to give the ability to do the Georgina & Jennifer Paths together while incorporating as much of the D solo/Elena/Jennifer/Georgina only paths into an Elena/Jennifer/Georgina Path while also fixing any missed grammar errors and small overlooked bugs. These mods will be based on Lains's Mods for the Walkthrough + Scene Gallery for Chap 1 & 2 and just the Scene Gallery for Chap 3 on up (less work for me and avoiding re-inventing the wheel).

Starting with v0.33.1 I am doing the Scene Gallery myself based on Lain's Scene Gallery mod.


Changes for Chap 1:
Coming Later

Changes for Chap 2:
Coming Later

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Many thanks for all our great work modding so far. Lord Ashram are you working on updating your mod to the new game version?
 
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