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Major Wanker

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This is not new. The guidelines have been there for a year or so. Many sent there games to patreon and got approved. Story driven and consensual is ok. Thing is dmd is dmd reloaded as the first version of this game was pure loli. Someone found that version amd plastered download link all over his comments section
 
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iAnimeDeath

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Adult Patreon Community Guidelines

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We have zero tolerance when it comes to the glorification of sexual violence which includes bestiality, rape, and child exploitation (i.e., sexualized depiction of minors). This is true for illustrated, animated, or any other type of content. Patreon reserves the right to review and remove accounts that may violate this guideline. As a strong commitment to child safety, we will work with law enforcement whenever we come across child exploitation.

We also do not allow other fringe sexual fetish content, such as incest, necrophilia, or fetish content that is hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex.
Right there it clearly states that Depiction of minors is an example.
 

a1fox3

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Look at what the ToS says. It says if the ppl in the game are depicted as children its a zero tolerance issue.
But there not depicted as children, they are depicted as small 18 yo girls.
 

a1fox3

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At least incest isn't a major part of your game.

But people that complain about "step" incest, this is why they do it. To avoid any shit that comes with that kind of heat.
That's why I stay away form mind control, drugs, magic and super power in incest games. To me this is just the same as rape.
 
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iAnimeDeath

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But there not depicted as children, they are depicted as small 18 yo girls.
Definition of Depiction is to look like a child. Just b/c the person is 18 it will not simply fly if that person looks younger than 18. That's what depiction of minors means.
 

Philly_Games

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At least incest isn't a major part of your game.

But people that complain about "step" incest, this is why they do it. To avoid any shit that comes with that kind of heat.
Well mine is for story reasons but yeah the point still stands.
 

emmasteadman

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If this becomes an issue, I suppose one solution, for any dev's reading this, would be a simple text change to read "step-" before any sibling or parent. Then optionally/crucially a separate simple downloadable patch, placed in the game folder, would then remove all occurrences of the word "step-". Returning the story to it's intended form.

Sorta cheesy bypass so to speak.
 
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iAnimeDeath

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So when word Depiction is used its reference to artwork.
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noun
noun: depiction; plural noun: depictions
the action or result of depicting something, especially in art."

Depiction of minors basically means that they have zero tolerance for anything that looks younger than of age. I bet you that's why its hit MrDots hard. Elena and Daughter look like minors. Yes it states they are 18 but it also states they are still in school... This is a very fine line to cross. It would be similar to Shadbase artwork of loli's. They are obviously older than 18 but are depicted to look like minors. Every time I look at the CG of DMD it always looks like I am looking at dolls minors. It's not very mature looking females. At least in case of Daughter and Elena.
 

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We understand that some topics on this list such as incest or rape are a little bit more complicated because these situations are, unfortunately, part of real life. As a result, when reviewing this type of content, the Trust and Safety team will take into consideration context including personal, historical or educational narrative. For example, survivor stories or fiction such as Game of Thrones or Lolita are allowed on Patreon.

That's from their own guidelines, I suspect that Mr Dots will have to remove th bestiality tag and possibly adjust/add something to make it clearer it's a work of fiction. That's my hope anyway.
 
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Tramall

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They are not going to go Play every single game, their decisions will be based on how the Creator describes and depicts their games. As for the models, I don't see how D could be the issue at all, she doesn't look that young to me, some other games that have a "Loli" patch, should definitely be banned as they are blatantly depicting under age girls in sexual situations. The Admins of this site may want to be careful as well, I wouldn't even post updates of games that are showing content like that. Just my 2 cents.
 

gestved

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I think the game is an easy target because of the name, I don't think the girls are the issue, maybe mr dots is able to get his account back, but it's very possible that he doesn't since the game clearly doesn't meet the guidelines, just as 99% of the games in this forum

if patreon really goes forward with these guidelines, all mind control games would be taken down as well
 

OhWee

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So basically, new guidelines as per a few days ago.
My guess is that Patreon, if not having adjusted their moral compass by themselves, has had it adjusted by the card payment companies. Time to move to bitcoins?

Also, just how is bestiality sexual violence if it for the human is consentual?
I just started a thread under programming and development noting the 'hardened' Patreon guidelines. Hopefully this info will be timely for other adult game developers that rely on Patreon for additional income.
 

iAnimeDeath

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I think the game is an easy target because of the name, I don't think the girls are the issue, maybe mr dots is able to get his account back, but it's very possible that he doesn't since the game clearly doesn't meet the guidelines, just as 99% of the games in this forum

if patreon really goes forward with these guidelines, all mind control games would be taken down as well
Trust me his CGI of the girls are an issue. Elena and Daughter look underage. It's really easy for me to think that. They have like no body and they are literally not even really that tall compared to the dad. Which makes it even more easier to think they are children. Look how much taller dad looks. If they scale the girls correctly especially for d and Elena I don't think it would be an issue.
 
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