VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[John Doe Jr.]

It's basic buisness sense, if there are more people who enjoy vanilla content than specific fetish, you can't blame the devs for tailoring their product to be the best commercial success in this niche genre.

Don't get me wrong it would be good for a wider range of content to tailor for all tastes in their games. However more scenes equal more time which is more money. Not to mention some content may cause further issues with being on Patreon (etc) which makes the entire work vastly more stressful.

You literally cannot make everyone happy as people love to complain, at least they have been clear and up front with their plans now rather than stringing people along hoping for content that will never come. If you have lost interest because your particular kink/dream isnt included then vote with your wallet and do not donate anymore. However if despite the disapointment you still will enjoy it then maybe revise your donation level or continue as normal.

Regardless of if you agree or disagree with their plans for chapter 4, you cannot fault the communication of the dev. It would be great if most others had the same communication skills and regular update schedule. Way to easy to focus on the negatives instead of the many positives, do bear that in mind people.

What would've been clear and upfront is if they had told us this in the beginning, not when the game is near it's end....

 

[crugh2112]

Now imagine if you PAID for 4 years. The money isn't really a big deal, its far from the worst part. Its losing a good dev to boring mediocrity that really stings. I can relate. I paid for 2 before finding this forum and a certain person here stating flatly that the

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fetish and corruption I was anticipating would not happen. I suppose I should thank him honestly. Now a much bigger swath of his fans are getting a taste.

Thanks TD for the link. I could not remember that site. I had started supporting MrDots even before the first capture that the Wayback Machine posts. It is hard to believe that has been nearly 4 years. Stuck with them during the Patreon crapfest. They threw together a new game and we soldiered on with Melody for two months and DMD every third month. Links had to be emailed to us. No Patreon references to DMD allowed. SubscribeStar comes and saves the day. Melody ends and a new game begins on Patreon. We sat and waited for this!?! At least on Discord HearszAM and Jeff Steel have been understanding of what longtime supporters are feeling. Asking for insight. The rest of the mods and their lapdogs are just buzzing annoyances. I will wait and see what changes/additions are made to the end of Chapter 3. I don't hold out hope for an interesting Chapter 4.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

I would defend you, if you took this to him, where the discussion actually matters. Here it does not.

Many of the mods from his Discord server frequent this site and this thread, so I'd say it's pretty likely word gets back to MrDots and his team.

 

[Trikus]

We have had MMF content in this game. It was on the list originally, and we have had scenes in the game where that has happened. Now, it may have mostly been in fantasy, but the game HAS delivered. If you want a picture of D sucking Martin's cock, you can find it in the image files. Martin has even managed to cop a feel a few times in reality too. If you go to the club with Margo and Ryan, Ryan and Margo get involved with D and F with Ryan cupping D's naked breasts. That is MMF content. The category list didn't say anything about it being a thing that would actually happen or stick around forever, just that it would be optional and it IS completely optional. Also, who says the F in MMF refers to D? MC, Ryan and Margo is MMF content. MC, Graham and Olivia is MMF content.

The only fetish from the original list that hasn't appeared is bestiality, even then he has still managed to work the dog into the story. Who knows what MrDots would do with that. I don't see D going all the way anymore, but I can imagine the dog giving her a sniff when she bends over once in a while or humping her leg. Also, the list of fetishes has also grown from what was originally planned. The MMFF scene with Ryan and Margo for example.

Lets take a look at the DMD checklist and if we have seen the content in some form or another:

 

[crugh2112]

We have had MMF content in this game. It was on the list originally, and we have had scenes in the game where that has happened. Now, it may have mostly been in fantasy, but the game HAS delivered. If you want a picture of D sucking Martin's cock, you can find it in the image files. Martin has even managed to cop a feel a few times in reality too. If you go to the club with Margo and Ryan, Ryan and Margo get involved with D and F with Ryan cupping D's naked breasts. That is MMF content. The category list didn't say anything about it being a thing that would actually happen or stick around forever, just that it would be optional and it IS completely optional. Also, who says the F in MMF refers to D? MC, Ryan and Margo is MMF content. MC, Graham and Olivia is MMF content.

The only fetish from the original list that hasn't appeared is bestiality, even then he has still managed to work the dog into the story. Who knows what MrDots would do with that. I don't see D going all the way anymore, but I can imagine the dog giving her a sniff when she bends over once in a while or humping her leg. Also, the list of fetishes has also grown from what was originally planned. The MMFF scene with Ryan and Margo for example.

Lets take a look at the DMD checklist and if we have seen the content in some form or the other:

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Optional refers to whether you want to view that part of the story. If you don't, you can avoid it.

 

[Trikus]

Optional refers to whether you want to view that part of the story. If you don't, you can avoid it.

Yes, I know, I'm not a moron. Is there MFF content in the game? Yes. Is the MFF content optional? Yes. Is there MMF content in the game? Yes. Is the MMF content optional? Yes. MrDots has delivered exactly what he promised, except the bestiality.

 

[wibbling]

I am not angry, just very disappointed.

I've not really said anything so far, but here's my tuppence worth. So I've been reading the "debate" regarding the last update and recent announcement by MrDot (and team). Firstly, I have enjoyed the game so far. Yea, the current end of 2.8 was a bit of a let down with D

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, but I get that it's not finished, and she could

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. The main thing that I am disappointed with though is the closing of the MMF, I was even hoping for a MMMF, with perhaps Ryan and Martin. If it's true that MrDot is bowing to pressure from the D only and anti-NTR crowd ... (SHARING IS NOT NTR!) ... I am doubly disappointed. As others have said, the sharing path was indicated in the game tags and the routes started as early as Ch1. To suddenly change a fundamental characteristic of the game for a few seemingly over sensitive "fans", to the detriment of the rest of us, is quite a slap in the face. If the game was only going to be F & D, and some MFF, then I don't see the point of Ch4, as we've done all that already (more or less). I am hoping that perhaps MrDot might reconsider not letting the MMF, MMMF, MMFF, sharing fans down, and I don't mean just some added extras/cut scenes, but I won't hold my breath. To conclude ... great game, but a potentially VERY disappointing finish.

P.S ... this is one of my fav porno scenes, and the kind of thing I was hoping to see D involved with (e.g. D + F + Ryan + Martin) ...

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[John Doe Jr.]

We have had MMF content in this game. It was on the list originally, and we have had scenes in the game where that has happened. Now, it may have mostly been in fantasy, but the game HAS delivered. If you want a picture of D sucking Martin's cock, you can find it in the image files. Martin has even managed to cop a feel a few times in reality too. If you go to the club with Margo and Ryan, Ryan and Margo get involved with D and F with Ryan cupping D's naked breasts. That is MMF content. The category list didn't say anything about it being a thing that would actually happen or stick around forever, just that it would be optional and it IS completely optional. Also, who says the F in MMF refers to D? MC, Ryan and Margo is MMF content. MC, Graham and Olivia is MMF content.

The only fetish from the original list that hasn't appeared is bestiality, even then he has still managed to work the dog into the story. Who knows what MrDots would do with that. I don't see D going all the way anymore, but I can imagine the dog giving her a sniff when she bends over once in a while or humping her leg. Also, the list of fetishes has also grown from what was originally planned. The MMFF scene with Ryan and Margo for example.

Lets take a look at the DMD checklist and if we have seen the content in some form or another:

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Bad take. Imagine if all F did was finger D vaginally and anally then say MrDots delivered on both incest and anal. Or even worse, He doesn't do anything to her AT ALL and has one dream where he fucks her and say he delivered.

 

[thanatos69]

What would've been clear and upfront is if they had told us this in the beginning, not when the game is near it's end....

Where does he say that there will be a MMF ending? Nowhere.

The fetish list is just that, a list with scenes that will happen in the game. You just imagined that there will be a MMF ending and seeing that's not the case, you're blaming the dev for what you imagined it was going to happen.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Where does he say that there will be a MMF ending? Nowhere.

The fetish list is just that, a list with scenes that will happen in the game. You just imagined that there will be a MMF ending and seeing that's not the case, you're blaming the dev for what you imagined it was going to happen.

I can see you're taking lessons from the mods on how to debate this topic. All this is is a poor attempt at waving away legit criticism. You throw in 1 or 2 half baked scenes then say that's good enough when we all know how it was teased for all these years. Also, MrDots himself never said there was only going to be a couple mmf scenes and that's it. No where. And he's had many years to be upfront with that if he has always planned it to be that way. What I think is he retroactively decided not to add it, put a couple half baked scenes in to say he "delivered", then people like you came up with this cute little argument to sweep it under the rug.

 

[Trikus]

Bad take. Imagine if all F did was finger D vaginally and anally then say MrDots delivered on both incest and anal. Or even worse, He doesn't do anything to her AT ALL and has one dream where he fucks her and say he delivered.

And if you read what I wrote, there has been MMF content in the game outside of fantasy. We have a scene where Olivia pleasures her dad then pleasures F right after. That is MMF. We have Ryan groping D's naked breasts while she sucks her dad's cock. That is MMF.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

And if you read what I wrote, there has been MMF content in the game outside of fantasy. We have a scene where Olivia pleasures her dad then pleasures F right after. That is MMF. We have Ryan groping D's naked breasts while she sucks her dad's cock. That is MMF.

You're arguing a technicality when we all know what mmf entails. And again, like I said, if all F did was finger D, that would technically be incest and by your reasoning would mean he delivered on incest content.

 

[Trikus]

You're arguing a technicality when we all know what mmf entails. And again, like I said, if all F did was finger D, that would technically be incest and by your reasoning would mean he delivered on incest content.

No, you are arguing on technicalities. Answer my question with a yes or no. Is there optional MMF content in DMD? Just a one word answer please.

 

[wibbling]

I don't understand the hostility, from some people, aimed at those that want to see more MMF and similar. "You" get what you wanted, i.e. vanilla and MFF, so why do you care that others are voicing disappointment at not getting what they hoped for and expected. There is no reason why we can't have both ... and then you pick the route you want, such as we have all done so far.

 

[crugh2112]

Yes, I know, I'm not a moron. Is there MFF content in the game? Yes. Is the MFF content optional? Yes. Is there MMF content in the game? Yes. Is the MMF content optional? Yes. MrDots has delivered exactly what he promised, except the bestiality.

Sorry if you felt threatened. That was not my intent. Your bar for MMF content is pretty low. That being said, we are talking about story threads that have been put together since the beginning. Followed for 4 years. Now they are evaporating without a proper resolution. I don't even care if there is no DP of D. I invested in a story that would include different routes/endings/ideas. Thought it was going along just fine until the recent announcement. I always understood there would be a D&F conclusion. That's a given. Harem. Sure, it's goofy, but it is essential porn play these days. But as the petals filled in, I and others, expected more corruption. That's all.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Sorry if you felt threatened. That was not my intent. Your bar for MMF content is pretty low. That being said, we are talking about story threads that have been put together since the beginning. Followed for 4 years. Now they are evaporating without a proper resolution. I don't even care if there is no DP of D. I invested in a story that would include different routes/endings/ideas. Thought it was going along just fine until the recent announcement. I always understood there would be a D&F conclusion. That's a given. Harem. Sure, it's goofy, but it is essential porn play these days. But as the petals filled in, I and others, expected more corruption. That's all.

He's playing word games and using technicalities to say MrDots delivered on mmf content, which he really hasn't.

 

[Trikus]

Sorry if you felt threatened. That was not my intent. Your bar for MMF content is pretty low. That being said, we are talking about story threads that have been put together since the beginning. Followed for 4 years. Now they are evaporating without a proper resolution. I don't even care if there is no DP of D. I invested in a story that would include different routes/endings/ideas. Thought it was going along just fine until the recent announcement. I always understood there would be a D&F conclusion. That's a given. Harem. Sure, it's goofy, but it is essential porn play these days. But as the petals filled in, I and others, expected more corruption. That's all.

Doesn't matter where the level of content is, the simple fact is, the MMF content IS in the game. Would I like more? Yes. Is it a problem that more won't happen? Not really. Going by the way the story is going, honestly I don't see how people expected anything else. The only possible candidates for that content are Martin and Ryan, right. Well, maybe Graham, but he only has eyes for Olivia. In the story, Ryan is moving away from Seaside so yeah, not really much chance of more developing. As for Martin, well, he is only in town to help D with the competition. He was always planning on returning home after the competition. Now, do we have content with MC, Ryan and D? Yes we do. Not much I grant you, but the content is there. Do we have content with D and Martin? Yes. Granted, it is mostly in fantasy on both sides, but it exists. Is MrDots planning on adding more MMF content as optional scenes, even if they aren't canon like in Melody? Yes. This game has MMF content. Your complaint is about the volume of the content but the fact remains that the content is in the game. He promised it, he delivered it.

He's playing word games and using technicalities to say MrDots delivered on mmf content, which he really hasn't.

Couldn't help but notice you dodged my one word answer question. You can't because when you give the only correct answer, which is yes, your technicality evaporates.

 

[John Doe Jr.]

Couldn't help but notice you dodged my one word answer question. You can't because when you give the only correct answer, which is yes, your technicality evaporates.

The answer is no. He hasn't delivered on mmf content, as everyone who is not playing word games knows. Let me ask you now, using your same reasoning, if all F did was finger D, would MrDots have delivered incest content?

 

[wibbling]

The answer is no. He hasn't delivered on mmf content, as everyone who is not playing word games knows. Let me ask you now, using your same reasoning, if all F did was finger D, would MrDots have delivered incest content?

It's the kind of word games and straw man arguments I expect from religious fanatics.

 

[Trikus]

The answer is no. He hasn't delivered on mmf content, as everyone who is not playing word games knows. Let me ask you now, using your same reasoning, if all F did was finger D, would MrDots have delivered incest content?

Haha, you still dodged the question while looking like you are answering it. I didn't ask you if he delivered MMF content. I asked if there is MMF content in the game. Why can't you answer the question? A reminder of the question I asked:

Is there optional MMF content in DMD? Just a one word answer please.

As for your question, that I will not dodge. A father putting his finger inside his daughter's pussy for sexual gratification? Yes, that is incest content. Is it a lot of content? No. Is it incest content? Yes.