RustyV

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Let's repeat for people in the back row: this is not about NTR but about MMF sharing that was promised, built up and even started in that direction for three chapters. It's also about D having more independent growth and direction instead of being a slave to the MC's massive shlong - she was supposed to be more independent in her ability to choose career direction, social life, sex life, etc. with their relationship in mind.

People came in here with the same, repeated reactions to this about-face, feeling not only deceived at the latest retcon announcement, but wondering just why the hell MrDots' team seems to have gone listless on this game. The direction of this game was already waiting for something more definitive, but now that seems to be going back to the start of Chapter 3 with the added element of MC having sex with other women in front of D, for a change.

There are more patrons in this thread than you may realize. Some of us about to become ex-patrons (e.g., I'm giving it a couple days before deciding).
Well said as always.
 
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And you know what, it's his game, not yours or this communities, and little to nothing discussed here, will ever be relevant, as this site is not populated by many of his actual supporters. And according to Mr Dots, this subject is no longer relevant to the game, so now is off topic.
So in two separate posts you've claimed that Mr. Dots doesn't come here because of all the noise but at the same time it's Mr. Dots who decides what's on topic on this board?

I don't even think I'm complaining. I'm making an observation about his story development, and of course he can do whatever he wants just like George Lucas can introduce Jar Jar Binks. Having the right to bollocks up your story and actually doing so are two different issues.

I've been a consistent supporter since around chapter five. I like his art and his storytelling in general, and I'm a fan of both of his other stories. I don't like the Discord because it to me is a toxic environment (some mods), and I only decided to engage in this particular discussion because I thought it was being misrepresented as an NTR vs no-NTR debate. I think long-term supporters understand what the story was originally proposed to be and how those original plans were reflected throughout the development of the story (Ryan and Martin were obviously being set up for scenes). It's also been clear through the story development that the person playing could pretty much opt out of anything, which makes it all the more mystifying that someone would be on a jihad against content that they would never see.

Yes, it's Dots right to do what he wants with his game and it's his right to take or not take into account what people want. None of that is news to me, and none of that bothers me. All I'm saying is that the team spent nearly four years on a project that they seem to be fundamentally changing both suddenly and without a clear explanation as to why. It's not exactly a Scooby Doo mystery as to why some people might be feeling some type of way about it.
 

RustyV

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It is not possible to convert gasoline engine into diesel engine, and metaphorically that is what has happen to DMD.
The game started off with the intent of F dating his daughter, which takes corrupting her. Then it seemed that D's corruption was supposed to continue.
But now DMD has been turn into a Disneyfied VN, it won't work. The updates of chapter 4 will become a clone of themselves, a repetitive series of meaningless day time events leading to D and F having sex with one of four girls at night. In the end most fans go from "YEA NEW DMD UPDATE!" to "Oh there was another update last month?"
DMD will not end it will die an unnoticed or unmourned death.
As Dickens described Scooge's grave, "A churchyard, overrun by weeds, the growth of vegetation's death not life -a worthy place!"
 

Pizzapockets

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It fucken sickens me how much planned content has been dropped. What's the point of chapter 4? Chapter 3 has been the same boring stuff for a while. The same kind of sex with been having with D over and over and over again. What kept me going was the idea of threesome's, sharing and corrupting D further. The only thing in chapter 4 that might be interesting now is a mother daughter threesome but I bet that it's not even going to be in the game.
 
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Looks like Chapter 4 of DMD will turn gold into straw.
To be fair, the story is ready for a denouement. It just seems a bit unsatisfying that after spending all this time having daughter transform from a two-dimensional character at F's door to a young woman of at least some independence and agency that she appears to be destined to finish the story as secondary to F.

An interesting ending (aside from Lucas gunning F and D down on the sidewalk) would be for D to have grown so much that she "breaks up" with F at the end to pursue her own path. Through doing things no father should be doing with his daughter, the father has done exactly what he should do for his daughter - help her become a strong, independent woman who doesn't have sex with animals and doesn't tolerate being peed on (my choice!).

By this point in the journey, D is as much of a protagonist as F is. I'm hoping chapter four does that justice.
 

RustyV

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To be fair, the story is ready for a denouement. It just seems a bit unsatisfying that after spending all this time having daughter transform from a two-dimensional character at F's door to a young woman of at least some independence and agency that she appears to be destined to finish the story as secondary to F.

An interesting ending (aside from Lucas gunning F and D down on the sidewalk) would be for D to have grown so much that she "breaks up" with F at the end to pursue her own path. Through doing things no father should be doing with his daughter, the father has done exactly what he should do for his daughter - help her become a strong, independent woman who doesn't have sex with animals and doesn't tolerate being peed on (my choice!).

By this point in the journey, D is as much of a protagonist as F is. I'm hoping chapter four does that justice.
To expand on Lucas gunning them down D and F could be with their son who watches it happen and uses the vast fortune D made as a model to avenge their deaths and fight crime.
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TungstenDuck

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I played unnecessarily for 4 years... thanks Mr. Dots.
Now imagine if you PAID for 4 years. The money isn't really a big deal, its far from the worst part. Its losing a good dev to boring mediocrity that really stings. I can relate. I paid for 2 before finding this forum and a certain person here stating flatly that the fetish and corruption I was anticipating would not happen. I suppose I should thank him honestly. Now a much bigger swath of his fans are getting a taste.
 

TungstenDuck

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Wouldn't care if it WAS an option.
The people who can't handle there being an OPTIONAL path that they'll never see simply existing in a game have won I suppose. I guess if you hang out in a certain chat software all day with the same 20 people shrieking at you this is what happens.

Again, I cannot grasp this mindset. Say you hate scotch. This is like refusing to set foot in a bar because they serve scotch but all the fuck you have to do is not order a god damn scotch. But nah, you're so outraged that they'd dare have a bottle of scotch on the shelf that you'll refuse to hang out there or even worse crusade to get the place shut down.

Meanwhile, this bar has a big glowing neon sign advertising they serve Absinthe and there is a cover charge to get in. I'm thinking "fuck yeah absinthe" so I pay the cover and go in, ask for an absinthe. The bartender says "oh, yeah, no we decided not to serve absinthe afterall."

Who's being unreasonable here?
 
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