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¿Does anyone else want David and Alice's mother to appear or just me?
It got a little boring for me.
Please Daval, if you're reading this, make David and Alicia's mother appear. I want to meet her and for David to lead the mother-son relationship.
That would be interesting to see.
 

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Very interesting route for Immoral Desires. It would fit perfectly with what has already happened, there would be NTR but without being NTR in Daniel and Lana's minds and it would cause others (aside from Lana's slutty friends) to suspect the true nature of Lana's mother-son relationship with her well-endowed son. Let's hope that Daval follows a similar path to what you suggest, because I think he would be perfect for ID.

However, I wouldn't rule out a more abrupt and definitive end for Sofia at the end of ID10. A forbidden relationship like Daniel and Lana's could cause one of them to react violently in order to hide it. And that could evolve into Sofia falling (accidentally or not) down the stairs, putting her into a timely coma that leads to subsequent amnesia in the best of cases for everyone. Sofia's fall could be argued as a bad fall due to alcohol, leading to the end of this stay with Sofia and Martha. It would also better explain why Sofia would no longer appear, as Daval himself said when trying to justify the ID9 cliffhanger. As for who could be the cause of that fall, both Daniel (who has already resorted to physical violence to protect his mother, by pushing that asshole so that he trips over that big man and the latter starts giving him a lesson with his fists) and Lana would be capable of doing it, although they might later regret it, giving rise to a small rift between them for ID11, which would justify better why Lana would willingly accept Alex's proposed plan of being away for a week to rekindle their marriage.
I am no fan of Sofia, so it's not like I'm particularly invested in her character's welfare. Out of the three leading series by Daval3D, Immoral Desires is easily the most "vanilla," for lack of a better term. It's hard to imagine it taking such a "dark" turn for a plot convenience. (Then again, Daval has done some "convenient" things.) When you examine Sofia's behavior, has she really done anything bad to Lana or Daniel? All she's really done is go after Daniel whom she believes is unattached. As of yet, she doesn't know that Lana and Daniel are involved. Would it be crazy to give Sofia the benefit of the doubt and just have her not reveal their secret because she's Lana's friend? With that said, however, Daniel does have a propensity for protecting his mother without regard, so I can see the scenario you described happening. I think injuring Sofia--on purpose at least--may be a bit too far.
 

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Imo would be cool to see more of that blonde girl that saw Alice and Sylvia on the bathroom
 

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I am no fan of Sofia, so it's not like I'm particularly invested in her character's welfare. Out of the three leading series by Daval3D, Immoral Desires is easily the most "vanilla," for lack of a better term. It's hard to imagine it taking such a "dark" turn for a plot convenience. (Then again, Daval has done some "convenient" things.) When you examine Sofia's behavior, has she really done anything bad to Lana or Daniel? All she's really done is go after Daniel whom she believes is unattached. As of yet, she doesn't know that Lana and Daniel are involved. Would it be crazy to give Sofia the benefit of the doubt and just have her not reveal their secret because she's Lana's friend? With that said, however, Daniel does have a propensity for protecting his mother without regard, so I can see the scenario you described happening. I think injuring Sofia--on purpose at least--may be a bit too far.
Well, it is most likely to happen, since Lana kept the secret of Sofia and Martha's infidelity without asking for anything, just because of the friendship between the three of them. It is not a big deal for Lana to ask for a Quid pro quo, because of what happened in the past. Two scenarios can happen that are totally plausible, one more plausible than the other. That Sofia asks him to fuck her once and that Daniel and Lana accept. Oh, he just decides to keep it a secret. Anyway, the most consistent option with the narrative and the story would be the first one. Daniel is smart, I don't think he'll attack Sofia, but he'll definitely get that ''problem'' out of the way so as not to worry Lana.
 

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Yeah, I too, was surprised that there was anger expressed at what I laid out. I only try to take what has happened so far and give them logical consequences. Aaron saw David fucking his mom, albeit David being his cousin and his mom's nephew. Naturally that would make anyone angry. There's a reason the term, "motherfucker" is an INSULT. And Aaron has already expressed his contempt a couple of times, i.e. his snapping at David when he "accidentally" exposed Sarah's breast, and his motivation for going to visit Alice. And since Alice has proven herself to be quite docile as of these recent, albeit nonsensical updates, and Aaron has been suggested to be the one who fingered her when she was asleep, it only makes sense, to me at least, that Aaron gets first crack at her.

As for Uncle Peter, well... if the mission is to get rid of him, I thought it was apropos to give him a proper send off by doing what he loves--having sex with busty women.

As for the end, where Aaron compels both David and Sarah to watch as he has his way with Alice again extends Aaron's presumed anger. And Alice is the perfect escape valve because of all the relatives seen in this comic, she bears the most resemblance to Sarah. So Aaron's "forcing himself" on Alice is a metaphor for lashing out at his own mother, someone for whom he, too, may bear sexual desire (a.l.a his erection at the sight of his mother's exposed breast.) Not to mention, David not only presents a threat to Aaron's sexual prospects with Sarah, but Aaron's father's marriage with Sarah, something for which I naturally presume Aaron cares. We should also keep in mind, if the scenario plays out as I've laid, the Aaron has all the leverage: he knows about Sarah & David, and he knows about Alice & Silvia (presumably from Uncle Peter.) So I wanted to display his parlaying said leverage into a rather horrifying moment which expresses just how (justifiably) angry he is. And this could possibly result in a tryst between Aaron and Sarah, and possibly a tryst between David and Alice--i.e. David comforting his sister after what happened.

I think any prospects of this series featuring a rather "romantic" duo or harem between David, Sarah, and Alice were killed the moments Uncle Peter and Silvia were introduced. And I'm of the opinion that what happened in Chapters 4, 5, and 6 cannot be "undone."
When the public hears or reads something they don't like, someone who knows the truth. They will get angry at anything.
 
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Imo would be cool to see more of that blonde girl that saw Alice and Sylvia on the bathroom
It could be. But I'm afraid that would dilute the plot. At least as far as Sarah is concerned. In this seventh chapter of the 122 pages that I have had the chance to see so far, in 18 of the 122 we can see Sarah in action. Not much compared to what was seen in the previous six chapters.
 

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It could be. But I'm afraid that would dilute the plot. At least as far as Sarah is concerned. In this seventh chapter of the 122 pages that I have had the chance to see so far, in 18 of the 122 we can see Sarah in action. Not much compared to what was seen in the previous six chapters.
I get your point but I really like her design, would be such a waste if Daval just use her as a cameo.

Well you cant deny that the fucking Pete gave to Sarah was wild and unhinged af
 
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Well you cant deny that the fucking Pete gave to Sarah was wild and unhinged af
Someone has already accused me of being a fan of Uncle Peter. But I'm really not at all, nor am I at all interested in any of the male protagonists from Daval's world. I'm only interested in female characters. And Sarah is really hot and sexy. Uncle Peter is a man, and David is just a kid. We can say that David is 18+ years old, but the scenes where David supposedly fucks shit out of Sarah are unconvincing. But Uncle Peter. That's another story. The way he fucked her was the best of Daval, at least for me.
 

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Well, it is most likely to happen, since Lana kept the secret of Sofia and Martha's infidelity without asking for anything, just because of the friendship between the three of them. It is not a big deal for Lana to ask for a Quid pro quo, because of what happened in the past. Two scenarios can happen that are totally plausible, one more plausible than the other. That Sofia asks him to fuck her once and that Daniel and Lana accept. Oh, he just decides to keep it a secret. Anyway, the most consistent option with the narrative and the story would be the first one. Daniel is smart, I don't think he'll attack Sofia, but he'll definitely get that ''problem'' out of the way so as not to worry Lana.
And your brother who thinks that Sharon was a better option with Daniel instead of Sofia. The 8TB boy has good ideas. :unsure::unsure:
 

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And your brother who thinks that Sharon was a better option with Daniel instead of Sofia. The 8TB boy has good ideas. :unsure::unsure:
Well, that's the most cúrente option among many quotation marks. Because if you choose between Sharon and Sofia, Sharon is the better option. But we must not confuse it with being a good option. In simpler words, the option of Sharon and Daniel is like a one-eyed man among the blind, or it is the least worst among the worst.
But it doesn't carry any sustenance that keeps that decision standing. I already made a thread a while back explaining that why Sharon and Daniel don't go well, but to paraphrase what I said. Daniel is not the type of Incesto guy, that's Liam, and that's why in those small differences we can find the gap between Incesto and Oedipus. For example: when Liam sees his aunt Alexa in sportswear, he gets hot and mentions that old Richard is a bastard to lucky. Jack_Zy:''From the beginning, Liam shows attraction to Alexa, so much so that I know in part to masturbate for her. Now we see how Daniel reacts to a similar situation with Sharon''. When Daniel and Sofia are at the clothing store, Daniel goes to get some lingerie for Lana. He runs into Sharon and her friend, where Daniel has no hint of excitement or attraction like Liam has for his aunt, even knowing that the situation is hotter than Liam's, as he is seeing Sharon in lingerie, while Liam only saw his aunt in sportswear. Then, when Lana calls Daniel, he simply forgets about Sharon and her friend, thinking about having a nice time with Lana, not even showing any interest. Daniel's only interest towards Sharon is something Lana told him that Sharon looked a lot like her when she was younger, to which Daniel curiously wonders if Sharon will ever get to have tits as big as Lana, being simply a curiosity, not even warming up to the thought or imagining it. Very different things, cradled Daniel, starts to get interested in Lana that the latter even somewhat telling her how beautiful she is and what a phenomenal body she has. Such different reactions from different worlds.
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The second example is: When Daniel met Sharon and her friend in the bathrooms, he cursed that among all the people was her. To then try to get out of a situation that was very uncomfortable for him and he just wanted to get out of there, where he was even hot. To then know that he was upset that he couldn't finish his thing with Lana, not even caring a little bit about Sharon and her friend, to act then think about something else that had to do with Lana. Very different from Liam that in part 6.2 SN When Liam kisses Emma, the latter gets excited at the moment just for a kiss, very unlike Daniel, who did not allow Sofia to suck me, so as not to make Lana moan. As for Liam, a few pages later he warmed up by the touch of his aunt and then agreed to have a threesome with his aunt and his mom.
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Jack_Zy: ''It's too different, an incestuous one like Liam, to someone with his Oedipus complex a thousandfold like Daniel. They are both no longer from different worlds, but from different universes, not only because of their reactions to similar situations, but also because of their exposed and sique behavior in different situations. Also, part of what makes Daniel such a beloved and enjoyable protagonist to watch is his behavior and personality, which is tied to his Oedipus.
Likewise, the one who has the final word is Daval and even if you only have $1000 a month to give and his wallet is at risk of becoming empty. His word is the law. The best you can do is ask for good 3D art ''Which he already gives'' AND a good, hot story.
Jack_Zy: ''I really liked the approach of the 8TB stories. If a harem were to happen a story like the 8TB stories would be excellent. I hope I helped''.
 

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Someone has already accused me of being a fan of Uncle Peter. But I'm really not at all, nor am I at all interested in any of the male protagonists from Daval's world. I'm only interested in female characters. And Sarah is really hot and sexy. Uncle Peter is a man, and David is just a kid. We can say that David is 18+ years old, but the scenes where David supposedly fucks shit out of Sarah are unconvincing. But Uncle Peter. That's another story. The way he fucked her was the best of Daval, at least for me.
Yeah Im like you about getting interested in the females only, but nobody cant deny the intensity of that fucking thats why I dont want Pete to get killed or take him aside of the story he earned his place, I think Daval can do a lot with him like manipulating everyone in the house even Sylvia when he meets her.
 
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Regarding Daniel and Sophia, why isn’t the solution to hypnotize her or make her drunk so that tomorrow she will believe that what she saw was just a dream?
 

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Well, that's the most cúrente option among many quotation marks. Because if you choose between Sharon and Sofia, Sharon is the better option. But we must not confuse it with being a good option. In simpler words, the option of Sharon and Daniel is like a one-eyed man among the blind, or it is the least worst among the worst.
But it doesn't carry any sustenance that keeps that decision standing. I already made a thread a while back explaining that why Sharon and Daniel don't go well, but to paraphrase what I said. Daniel is not the type of Incesto guy, that's Liam, and that's why in those small differences we can find the gap between Incesto and Oedipus. For example: when Liam sees his aunt Alexa in sportswear, he gets hot and mentions that old Richard is a bastard to lucky. Jack_Zy:''From the beginning, Liam shows attraction to Alexa, so much so that I know in part to masturbate for her. Now we see how Daniel reacts to a similar situation with Sharon''. When Daniel and Sofia are at the clothing store, Daniel goes to get some lingerie for Lana. He runs into Sharon and her friend, where Daniel has no hint of excitement or attraction like Liam has for his aunt, even knowing that the situation is hotter than Liam's, as he is seeing Sharon in lingerie, while Liam only saw his aunt in sportswear. Then, when Lana calls Daniel, he simply forgets about Sharon and her friend, thinking about having a nice time with Lana, not even showing any interest. Daniel's only interest towards Sharon is something Lana told him that Sharon looked a lot like her when she was younger, to which Daniel curiously wonders if Sharon will ever get to have tits as big as Lana, being simply a curiosity, not even warming up to the thought or imagining it. Very different things, cradled Daniel, starts to get interested in Lana that the latter even somewhat telling her how beautiful she is and what a phenomenal body she has. Such different reactions from different worlds.
I agree with you about Daniel's dynamic with Sharon. I, personally, can read just Daniel and Lana secretly having sex up until "Immoral Desires 56" (Daval's number, not mine.) I've seen others suggest that he ends the series soon and neatly, but I think it's too popular and too much of a cash-cow (deservedly so) for there to be any end to the series on the horizon. In the possible scenario I laid out in my previous post, Daniel would have sex with Sharon, not because he thinks Sharon is as attractive or even more attractive than his mother, but because of the resemblance that was mentioned between Sharon and her aunt, Lana, Daniel would literally confuse the two of them in his drunken stupor. The idea was to use the fact that Sharon is a facsimile of a young Lana to perpetuate the Oedipal theme in a possible tryst between her and Daniel. In that scenario, I had Daniel refer to her as "Mom" throughout the entirety of their intercourse. That is, even though he's having sex with Sharon, he's really having sex with "Lana," albeit in his own inebriated mind. I figured that way, you can please those who want to see Daniel with someone else, while also refraining from alienating the audience, like myself, who prefer it to be just Daniel and Lana. In that scenario, Daniel would be fucking someone different and the same person simultaneously.


Jack_Zy: ''It's too different, an incestuous one like Liam, to someone with his Oedipus complex a thousandfold like Daniel. They are both no longer from different worlds, but from different universes, not only because of their reactions to similar situations, but also because of their exposed and sique behavior in different situations. Also, part of what makes Daniel such a beloved and enjoyable protagonist to watch is his behavior and personality, which is tied to his Oedipus.
Likewise, the one who has the final word is Daval and even if you only have $1000 a month to give and his wallet is at risk of becoming empty. His word is the law. The best you can do is ask for good 3D art ''Which he already gives'' AND a good, hot story.
I agree. I mentioned earlier that the reason I believe Immoral Desires is his most popular comic is because he combines the Oedipus Fantasy with the Male Power Fantasy through one character, Daniel. I think he can get away with including Sharon, unlike the inclusions in Satisfying Needs, and Madness Together, because a point was made that she looks like Lana. It's also clear that Sharon is older than Daniel--that or they live in some odd universe where women on average are taller than men on average. I can see Daniel having sex with Sharon, while perpetuating the Oedipal theme, if in fact he thinks she's his mother, albeit in a confused state. I can only guess, but I think that there are certain themes Daval would explore but the incest crowd would rebuff. It's a double-edge sword. Mother-son incest is overwhelmingly the most popular in these kinds of 3D comics, and I would guess that Daval may have flirted with having his cake and eating it too. That is, include all the debauchery to which he's accustomed typically found in his VIP comics, while trying to simultaneously harness incest's popularity. His other VIP comics while known to some, are no where near as popular as ID, SN, and MT. Madness Together is a VIP comic which did well initially because it played on the Oedipal theme, albeit through an aunt and nephew. And when he decided to throw a wrench in it by introducing Peter, he faced the audience's wrath. And while I wouldn't say all of it was deserved, I would state that all of it was at least understandable. That's not to say that Daval3D shouldn't create what he likes, but if he's going to commercialize it, then for better or worse, he's beholden to his patrons.

Jack_Zy: ''It's too different, an incestuous one like Liam, to someone with his Oedipus complex a thousandfold like Daniel. They are both no longer from different worlds, but from different universes, not only because of their reactions to similar situations, but also because of their exposed and sique behavior in different situations. Also, part of what makes Daniel such a beloved and enjoyable protagonist to watch is his behavior and personality, which is tied to his Oedipus.
Likewise, the one who has the final word is Daval and even if you only have $1000 a month to give and his wallet is at risk of becoming empty. His word is the law. The best you can do is ask for good 3D art ''Which he already gives'' AND a good, hot story.
Jack_Zy: ''I really liked the approach of the 8TB stories. If a harem were to happen a story like the 8TB stories would be excellent. I hope I helped''.
Agreed. Daval's word is essentially law. And it's up to the audience to decide whether they're okay with that or not. And let me just say that I'm not in favor of including Sharon. The scenario I laid out was more a "if it has to be done, then this is how would prefer it to be done." I'm confident that Sharon has a role to play in the upcoming chapters because I can't imagine her just stopping by Daniel and Lana's home, and stating, "Hey, you got my costume? You do? Thanks. Okay, goodbye." And I'll hearken back to something you stated about Sharon's inclusion which was that it would be the least worst among worst scenarios (Haha, that hit the nail right on the head.) I, too, hope Daval's approach is something similar to my outline, not because I'm an egotistic know-it-all, although I am an egotistic pretend to be know-it-all, but because I'm sure that many like myself are invested in Daniel and Lana, and would be "disappointed" in seeing this story hit the same pitfalls that some other creators make a career out of broaching.
 
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I am no fan of Sofia, so it's not like I'm particularly invested in her character's welfare. Out of the three leading series by Daval3D, Immoral Desires is easily the most "vanilla," for lack of a better term. It's hard to imagine it taking such a "dark" turn for a plot convenience. (Then again, Daval has done some "convenient" things.) When you examine Sofia's behavior, has she really done anything bad to Lana or Daniel? All she's really done is go after Daniel whom she believes is unattached. As of yet, she doesn't know that Lana and Daniel are involved. Would it be crazy to give Sofia the benefit of the doubt and just have her not reveal their secret because she's Lana's friend? With that said, however, Daniel does have a propensity for protecting his mother without regard, so I can see the scenario you described happening. I think injuring Sofia--on purpose at least--may be a bit too far.
I agree with the idea that it is very unlikely, and out of character, for anything to happen to Sophia. A lot of people seem to be hung up on how to deal with her knowing without having her get involved. While I personally wouldn't mind if Sophia got involved with Daniel, I understand the want to keep this comic between just Daniel and Lana. I personally think the best way to keep Sophia quiet is simpler than people think, and can push Lana to really let loose during this night with Daniel.

In my opinion the best way to solve the issue with Sophia would be, as other people have already suggested, for Lana to talk to Sophia, tell her about how bad it is with Alex and ask her, as a friend, not to say anything. My ideas split from others at this point though, as I think Sophia should agree to keep quiet if they let her stay and watch. I know some people might think this is too close to including her, and could be a slippery slope to involving her more later, but I think this opens a lot of doors narratively, and expands on the already included kink of exhibitionism. I think this would not be a huge step for Lana and Daniel who have already almost been caught multiple times in public, and already had sex with Sophia watching, even if Sophia thought it was Lana and Alex. This way Daval can add in some shots of Sophia being sexy to appease people that want the comics to include more women, and can use the situation to push Lana a little farther, being louder and more active, as she could justify it as "putting on a show" for Sophia so she stays quiet.

Daval could even use Sophia being there to cover up for Lana if Martha or Alex come by. This way Daval could keep it between just Lana and Daniel with a voyeur Sophia helping to cover up for them. This could lead into any number of directions, such as Lana and Daniel helping Sophia seduce her own son, nephew, dad, brother, whatever male (or female) family member he chose to expand the series while keeping Daniel and Lana mostly monogamous.

That's how I would deal with the situation, but I'm not Daval, and its not my comic. So I'm going to let him do what he wants with his comic, and just hope he doesn't change the established dynamics or kinks too much. Im probably going to read and enjoy the comic in almost any direction he choses to go. Hopefully he has learned from his blunders with MT and SN and can use that experience to tell this story in a better way. Feel free to comment on my ideas if you want, it's just speculation at this point, and doesn't, and shouldn't, mean much, and I am always interested to know how other people feel about story ideas I have.
 

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I agree with the idea that it is very unlikely, and out of character, for anything to happen to Sophia. A lot of people seem to be hung up on how to deal with her knowing without having her get involved. While I personally wouldn't mind if Sophia got involved with Daniel, I understand the want to keep this comic between just Daniel and Lana. I personally think the best way to keep Sophia quiet is simpler than people think, and can push Lana to really let loose during this night with Daniel.

In my opinion the best way to solve the issue with Sofia would be, as other people have already suggested, for Lana to talk to Sophia, tell her about how bad it is with Alex and ask her, as a friend, not to say anything. My ideas split from others at this point though, as I think Sophia should agree to keep quiet if they let her stay and watch. I know some people might think this is too close to including her, and could be a slippery slope to involving her more later, but I think this opens a lot of doors narratively, and expands on the already included kink of exhibitionism. I think this would not be a huge step for Lana and Daniel who have already almost been caught multiple times in public, and already had sex with Sophia watching, even if Sophia thought it was Lana and Alex. This way Daval can add in some shots of Sophia being sexy to appease people that want the comics to include more women, and can use the situation to push Lana a little farther, being louder and more active, as she could justify it as "putting on a show" for Sophia so she stays quiet.

Daval could even use Sophia being there to cover up for Lana if Martha or Alex come by. This way Daval could keep it between just Lana and Daniel with a voyeur Sophia helping to cover up for them. This could lead into any number of directions, such as Lana and Daniel helping Sophia seduce her own son, nephew, dad, brother, whatever male (or female) family member he chose to expand the series while keeping Daniel and Lana mostly monogamous.

That's how I would deal with the situation, but I'm not Daval, and its not my comic. So I'm going to let him do what he wants with his comic, and just hope he doesn't change the established dynamics or kinks too much. Im probably going to read and enjoy the comic in almost any direction he choses to go. Hopefully he has learned from his blunders with MT and SN and can use that experience to tell this story in a better way. Feel free to comment on my ideas if you want, it's just speculation at this point, and doesn't, and shouldn't, mean much, and I am always interested to know how other people feel about story ideas I have.
While I do admit that Sophia being a voyeur may be a compromise, I think that if it's included, it would simply be included as nothing more than a fringe fan service, which would be consistent with what led up to the end of Chapter 9, but not consistent with Daval's plans moving forward if his response to the concerns of ID fans following Chapter Nine's end is to be believed. He stated that Sofia wouldn't be part of Lana and Daniel's relationship, and that Sofia wouldn't blackmail them. So what leverage if any does Sofia have to get anything that she wants? Even if Daval didn't mention anything, Sofia's position wouldn't have been strong to begin with because Lana and Daniel know that Sofia's cheating on her husband. What sense would it make to have Sofia demand to have sex with them, or even watch, then to disappear all of sudden? [I'm guessing Daval wanted to include Sofia and Martha, but the fan base was clearly against it, explaining the exhibitionism and Lana's inexplicable immodest style of dressing during "Weekend at Martha's".] I think Daval was trying to slowly introduce his preferred kinks into I.D. but the lion's share of his patrons keeps rejecting it. The truth of the matter though is that anything can happen, even if it's inconsistent with the story or Daval's stated intentions. Would I be surprised if Sofia, Lana, and Daniel have a "one-time" threesome? No. Would I be surprised if Lana watches Daniel fuck Sofia? No. Would I be surprised even if Daniel watches Lana and Sofia get it on? No, though admittedly, that is my least preferred anticipated scenario. And we know that Daval tends to introduce Lesbianism as though it "doesn't count." I also wouldn't be surprised if they just had a conversation, and Sofia left the room. [Cue the track] Only time will tell...

I can however picture a scenario where Daniel compels/forces Sofia to watch him and Lana have sex, in a sort of brazen, "no matter what you do, you can't tear us apart" symbolic statement. That way, not only do Daniel and Lana handle it "together," but Daniel still maintains control of the entire situation.
 
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