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Regarding Daniel and Sophia, why isn’t the solution to hypnotize her or make her drunk so that tomorrow she will believe that what she saw was just a dream?
 
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Well, that's the most cúrente option among many quotation marks. Because if you choose between Sharon and Sofia, Sharon is the better option. But we must not confuse it with being a good option. In simpler words, the option of Sharon and Daniel is like a one-eyed man among the blind, or it is the least worst among the worst.
But it doesn't carry any sustenance that keeps that decision standing. I already made a thread a while back explaining that why Sharon and Daniel don't go well, but to paraphrase what I said. Daniel is not the type of Incesto guy, that's Liam, and that's why in those small differences we can find the gap between Incesto and Oedipus. For example: when Liam sees his aunt Alexa in sportswear, he gets hot and mentions that old Richard is a bastard to lucky. Jack_Zy:''From the beginning, Liam shows attraction to Alexa, so much so that I know in part to masturbate for her. Now we see how Daniel reacts to a similar situation with Sharon''. When Daniel and Sofia are at the clothing store, Daniel goes to get some lingerie for Lana. He runs into Sharon and her friend, where Daniel has no hint of excitement or attraction like Liam has for his aunt, even knowing that the situation is hotter than Liam's, as he is seeing Sharon in lingerie, while Liam only saw his aunt in sportswear. Then, when Lana calls Daniel, he simply forgets about Sharon and her friend, thinking about having a nice time with Lana, not even showing any interest. Daniel's only interest towards Sharon is something Lana told him that Sharon looked a lot like her when she was younger, to which Daniel curiously wonders if Sharon will ever get to have tits as big as Lana, being simply a curiosity, not even warming up to the thought or imagining it. Very different things, cradled Daniel, starts to get interested in Lana that the latter even somewhat telling her how beautiful she is and what a phenomenal body she has. Such different reactions from different worlds.
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I agree with you about Daniel's dynamic with Sharon. I, personally, can read just Daniel and Lana secretly having sex up until "Immoral Desires 56" (Daval's number, not mine.) I've seen others suggest that he ends the series soon and neatly, but I think it's too popular and too much of a cash-cow (deservedly so) for there to be any end to the series on the horizon. In the possible scenario I laid out in my previous post, Daniel would have sex with Sharon, not because he thinks Sharon is as attractive or even more attractive than his mother, but because of the resemblance that was mentioned between Sharon and her aunt, Lana, Daniel would literally confuse the two of them in his drunken stupor. The idea was to use the fact that Sharon is a facsimile of a young Lana to perpetuate the Oedipal theme in a possible tryst between her and Daniel. In that scenario, I had Daniel refer to her as "Mom" throughout the entirety of their intercourse. That is, even though he's having sex with Sharon, he's really having sex with "Lana," albeit in his own inebriated mind. I figured that way, you can please those who want to see Daniel with someone else, while also refraining from alienating the audience, like myself, who prefer it to be just Daniel and Lana. In that scenario, Daniel would be fucking someone different and the same person simultaneously.


Jack_Zy: ''It's too different, an incestuous one like Liam, to someone with his Oedipus complex a thousandfold like Daniel. They are both no longer from different worlds, but from different universes, not only because of their reactions to similar situations, but also because of their exposed and sique behavior in different situations. Also, part of what makes Daniel such a beloved and enjoyable protagonist to watch is his behavior and personality, which is tied to his Oedipus.
Likewise, the one who has the final word is Daval and even if you only have $1000 a month to give and his wallet is at risk of becoming empty. His word is the law. The best you can do is ask for good 3D art ''Which he already gives'' AND a good, hot story.
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I agree. I mentioned earlier that the reason I believe Immoral Desires is his most popular comic is because he combines the Oedipus Fantasy with the Male Power Fantasy through one character, Daniel. I think he can get away with including Sharon, unlike the inclusions in Satisfying Needs, and Madness Together, because a point was made that she looks like Lana. It's also clear that Sharon is older than Daniel--that or they live in some odd universe where women on average are taller than men on average. I can see Daniel having sex with Sharon, while perpetuating the Oedipal theme, if in fact he thinks she's his mother, albeit in a confused state. I can only guess, but I think that there are certain themes Daval would explore but the incest crowd would rebuff. It's a double-edge sword. Mother-son incest is overwhelmingly the most popular in these kinds of 3D comics, and I would guess that Daval may have flirted with having his cake and eating it too. That is, include all the debauchery to which he's accustomed typically found in his VIP comics, while trying to simultaneously harness incest's popularity. His other VIP comics while known to some, are no where near as popular as ID, SN, and MT. Madness Together is a VIP comic which did well initially because it played on the Oedipal theme, albeit through an aunt and nephew. And when he decided to throw a wrench in it by introducing Peter, he faced the audience's wrath. And while I wouldn't say all of it was deserved, I would state that all of it was at least understandable. That's not to say that Daval3D shouldn't create what he likes, but if he's going to commercialize it, then for better or worse, he's beholden to his patrons.

Jack_Zy: ''It's too different, an incestuous one like Liam, to someone with his Oedipus complex a thousandfold like Daniel. They are both no longer from different worlds, but from different universes, not only because of their reactions to similar situations, but also because of their exposed and sique behavior in different situations. Also, part of what makes Daniel such a beloved and enjoyable protagonist to watch is his behavior and personality, which is tied to his Oedipus.
Likewise, the one who has the final word is Daval and even if you only have $1000 a month to give and his wallet is at risk of becoming empty. His word is the law. The best you can do is ask for good 3D art ''Which he already gives'' AND a good, hot story.
Jack_Zy: ''I really liked the approach of the 8TB stories. If a harem were to happen a story like the 8TB stories would be excellent. I hope I helped''.
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Agreed. Daval's word is essentially law. And it's up to the audience to decide whether they're okay with that or not. And let me just say that I'm not in favor of including Sharon. The scenario I laid out was more a "if it has to be done, then this is how would prefer it to be done." I'm confident that Sharon has a role to play in the upcoming chapters because I can't imagine her just stopping by Daniel and Lana's home, and stating, "Hey, you got my costume? You do? Thanks. Okay, goodbye." And I'll hearken back to something you stated about Sharon's inclusion which was that it would be the least worst among worst scenarios (Haha, that hit the nail right on the head.) I, too, hope Daval's approach is something similar to my outline, not because I'm an egotistic know-it-all, although I am an egotistic pretend to be know-it-all, but because I'm sure that many like myself are invested in Daniel and Lana, and would be "disappointed" in seeing this story hit the same pitfalls that some other creators make a career out of broaching.
 
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I am no fan of Sofia, so it's not like I'm particularly invested in her character's welfare. Out of the three leading series by Daval3D, Immoral Desires is easily the most "vanilla," for lack of a better term. It's hard to imagine it taking such a "dark" turn for a plot convenience. (Then again, Daval has done some "convenient" things.) When you examine Sofia's behavior, has she really done anything bad to Lana or Daniel? All she's really done is go after Daniel whom she believes is unattached. As of yet, she doesn't know that Lana and Daniel are involved. Would it be crazy to give Sofia the benefit of the doubt and just have her not reveal their secret because she's Lana's friend? With that said, however, Daniel does have a propensity for protecting his mother without regard, so I can see the scenario you described happening. I think injuring Sofia--on purpose at least--may be a bit too far.
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I agree with the idea that it is very unlikely, and out of character, for anything to happen to Sophia. A lot of people seem to be hung up on how to deal with her knowing without having her get involved. While I personally wouldn't mind if Sophia got involved with Daniel, I understand the want to keep this comic between just Daniel and Lana. I personally think the best way to keep Sophia quiet is simpler than people think, and can push Lana to really let loose during this night with Daniel.

In my opinion the best way to solve the issue with Sophia would be, as other people have already suggested, for Lana to talk to Sophia, tell her about how bad it is with Alex and ask her, as a friend, not to say anything. My ideas split from others at this point though, as I think Sophia should agree to keep quiet if they let her stay and watch. I know some people might think this is too close to including her, and could be a slippery slope to involving her more later, but I think this opens a lot of doors narratively, and expands on the already included kink of exhibitionism. I think this would not be a huge step for Lana and Daniel who have already almost been caught multiple times in public, and already had sex with Sophia watching, even if Sophia thought it was Lana and Alex. This way Daval can add in some shots of Sophia being sexy to appease people that want the comics to include more women, and can use the situation to push Lana a little farther, being louder and more active, as she could justify it as "putting on a show" for Sophia so she stays quiet.

Daval could even use Sophia being there to cover up for Lana if Martha or Alex come by. This way Daval could keep it between just Lana and Daniel with a voyeur Sophia helping to cover up for them. This could lead into any number of directions, such as Lana and Daniel helping Sophia seduce her own son, nephew, dad, brother, whatever male (or female) family member he chose to expand the series while keeping Daniel and Lana mostly monogamous.

That's how I would deal with the situation, but I'm not Daval, and its not my comic. So I'm going to let him do what he wants with his comic, and just hope he doesn't change the established dynamics or kinks too much. Im probably going to read and enjoy the comic in almost any direction he choses to go. Hopefully he has learned from his blunders with MT and SN and can use that experience to tell this story in a better way. Feel free to comment on my ideas if you want, it's just speculation at this point, and doesn't, and shouldn't, mean much, and I am always interested to know how other people feel about story ideas I have.
 
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Shouldnothavedonethis said:
I agree with the idea that it is very unlikely, and out of character, for anything to happen to Sophia. A lot of people seem to be hung up on how to deal with her knowing without having her get involved. While I personally wouldn't mind if Sophia got involved with Daniel, I understand the want to keep this comic between just Daniel and Lana. I personally think the best way to keep Sophia quiet is simpler than people think, and can push Lana to really let loose during this night with Daniel.

In my opinion the best way to solve the issue with Sofia would be, as other people have already suggested, for Lana to talk to Sophia, tell her about how bad it is with Alex and ask her, as a friend, not to say anything. My ideas split from others at this point though, as I think Sophia should agree to keep quiet if they let her stay and watch. I know some people might think this is too close to including her, and could be a slippery slope to involving her more later, but I think this opens a lot of doors narratively, and expands on the already included kink of exhibitionism. I think this would not be a huge step for Lana and Daniel who have already almost been caught multiple times in public, and already had sex with Sophia watching, even if Sophia thought it was Lana and Alex. This way Daval can add in some shots of Sophia being sexy to appease people that want the comics to include more women, and can use the situation to push Lana a little farther, being louder and more active, as she could justify it as "putting on a show" for Sophia so she stays quiet.

Daval could even use Sophia being there to cover up for Lana if Martha or Alex come by. This way Daval could keep it between just Lana and Daniel with a voyeur Sophia helping to cover up for them. This could lead into any number of directions, such as Lana and Daniel helping Sophia seduce her own son, nephew, dad, brother, whatever male (or female) family member he chose to expand the series while keeping Daniel and Lana mostly monogamous.

That's how I would deal with the situation, but I'm not Daval, and its not my comic. So I'm going to let him do what he wants with his comic, and just hope he doesn't change the established dynamics or kinks too much. Im probably going to read and enjoy the comic in almost any direction he choses to go. Hopefully he has learned from his blunders with MT and SN and can use that experience to tell this story in a better way. Feel free to comment on my ideas if you want, it's just speculation at this point, and doesn't, and shouldn't, mean much, and I am always interested to know how other people feel about story ideas I have.
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While I do admit that Sophia being a voyeur may be a compromise, I think that if it's included, it would simply be included as nothing more than a fringe fan service, which would be consistent with what led up to the end of Chapter 9, but not consistent with Daval's plans moving forward if his response to the concerns of ID fans following Chapter Nine's end is to be believed. He stated that Sofia wouldn't be part of Lana and Daniel's relationship, and that Sofia wouldn't blackmail them. So what leverage if any does Sofia have to get anything that she wants? Even if Daval didn't mention anything, Sofia's position wouldn't have been strong to begin with because Lana and Daniel know that Sofia's cheating on her husband. What sense would it make to have Sofia demand to have sex with them, or even watch, then to disappear all of sudden? [I'm guessing Daval wanted to include Sofia and Martha, but the fan base was clearly against it, explaining the exhibitionism and Lana's inexplicable immodest style of dressing during "Weekend at Martha's".] I think Daval was trying to slowly introduce his preferred kinks into I.D. but the lion's share of his patrons keeps rejecting it. The truth of the matter though is that anything can happen, even if it's inconsistent with the story or Daval's stated intentions. Would I be surprised if Sofia, Lana, and Daniel have a "one-time" threesome? No. Would I be surprised if Lana watches Daniel fuck Sofia? No. Would I be surprised even if Daniel watches Lana and Sofia get it on? No, though admittedly, that is my least preferred anticipated scenario. And we know that Daval tends to introduce Lesbianism as though it "doesn't count." I also wouldn't be surprised if they just had a conversation, and Sofia left the room. [Cue the track] Only time will tell...

I can however picture a scenario where Daniel compels/forces Sofia to watch him and Lana have sex, in a sort of brazen, "no matter what you do, you can't tear us apart" symbolic statement. That way, not only do Daniel and Lana handle it "together," but Daniel still maintains control of the entire situation.
 
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Sofia is hot, same for Martha and Rosa, the thing with them is that it would be just normal sex, yeah he's the son of your friend but that's pretty vanilla... Sharon on the other hand, she's at least a cousin, her mom is probably as good as Lana (her sister? sister-in-law? they never made it clear), then there's Lana's mom, mentioned once, even if she never appears, I hope Daval add a gilf someday.
 
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I read many comments. Many suggestions or ideas are great. Some are not. But I think all are very excited and very eager to know what will happen after Sophia discover Lana and Daniel's relationship. I think Daval nailed it. I think we are all hook into the story now. Anyways, our anxious and expectation will be lessen if Daval will post the schedule for this month and someone will share it on this forum.

Hehehe! I'm just curious. Did Lana and Daniel already cum or cum several times before Sophia saw them? I hope Daval answer this.
 
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Yeah Im like you about getting interested in the females only, but nobody cant deny the intensity of that fucking thats why I dont want Pete to get killed or take him aside of the story he earned his place, I think Daval can do a lot with him like manipulating everyone in the house even Sylvia when he meets her.
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MT without peter'presence and involving in story and most important action with our hot milfs is just a boring work like other works that all know...
 
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During all these 9 chapters Sofia is wandering around all the time either in her home or someone else's home, actually everywhere. Everything is suspicious to her. I think it's really about time she ran into something juicy.
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I guess it follows... It's not what you think... LOL and the sheets seems to have mysteriously evaporated as well :unsure:
 
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lupogba6 said:
SHARE PAGE NO 148 PLZ IF U HAVE IT OR IF ANYONE HAS IT
THE PAGE NO 148 SHARED PREVIUSLY IS NOT CORRECT
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Yes, it seems pages with Sofia are 149 and 150, but according to previous post there is at least 2 images before images with Sofia.
 
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