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Jack_Zy

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I understand what you're saying, even if I find comparing Daval3D and his work to Neil Gaiman and Andy Weir disingenuous. If we're gonna be technical here I agree they're all authors since they all write, but the works you mentioned are both novels, a completely different medium that is all done at once and not released weekly. But idk man, when a dude you're paying money to every month for a story goes, "oops all out of ideas, let's go ask the audience!" it doesn't inspire a whole lot of confidence. Not sure if he's done this before but if he's taken ideas from his audience and not giving them credit for it, then yeah I stick by that the story won't solely be his anymore. To me caving to the whims of your audience and letting them decide where the story wants to go means he doesn't have creative control over his work anymore, however I understand the very obvious financial incentive with this type of product and the way it's distributed. I guess I just wish that these works seemed/were more of a passion project rather than just a job.
What the hell is hypocritical about making a comparison that clearly plays out with the subject matter being discussed? Daval asked for ideas, something that is normal in the medium, even writers of weekly novels often do that to find out what direction their readers want. Daval never said, ‘'write the story for me and I'll just do the art.’' He asked for an idea and from that idea he developed the story. Not to mention fanfic creators that really is the most common. '‘I guess I wish these works looked/were more of a passion project than just a job.’' Well, I think it's been known that Daval sees this as a job for a long time and he doesn't do it for the love of the art. It's pretty naive to think that at some point a NSFW artist does things for love.
As for the second part of your comment, you're putting words in my mouth. I never implied or said anything about being able to do better. There is a lot of negativity in this thread, however you also have people who are clearly huge fans theorizing and trying to figure out where the story goes next, so it's not all bad.
I'll assume you have dyslexia and not just that you were too lazy to read the whole comment and know that what I said was in the plural.
I find it hard to understand this anger towards Daval, on the part of his so-called ‘'followers’'.
 

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He has been open to ideas from the subscribers. This is just the first time I've seen him be so upfront about it. It think this is more so a proclamation, "Immoral Desires fans, tell me what you'd like to see, so you won't unsubscribe."



Well, Daval himself threw a wrench into that theory of yours with the most recent update of Immoral Desires:

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Daniel states, "I guess I will have to masturbate to dreams of mom, just like old times." Daval may be contradicting himself with having Daniel state that, because like you, I thought Daniel's attraction to Lana "awakened" when he saw her in her night wear. But even that itself was a rather nebulous premise because it's hard to imagine, Daniel, presumably 18-19 years old, has never seen what his mother looked like in her night wear once before the start of Chapter One. This line on page 11 (Chapter 12) would suggest that Daniel has been attracted to Lana since before Chapter One because not only would he daydream about his mom, but also he would masturbate to the thought of her.

I know you feel differently, but I personally hope this doesn't turn into a harem. Most of the popular 3D artists feature primarily harems in their works. It'd be nice to see this comic end in a manner that's consistent with its run. I wish Daval would focus on writing and developing this story in a way that doesn't betray what has been cultivated the previous 11 chapters, as opposed to trying to find another gimmick. Daval has shown flashes of brilliance so I know he's capable. But I suppose the subscribers will speak soon enough.
Any thoughts on TH's new direction? Is Aaron now in love with Sarah, or does he still want to be with Alice?
 
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My only concern is that, Daval will make the same mistake pegasus smith did with au naturel chapter 10 then end up ruining the whole story. Only because he is willing to take ideas from the jackass keyboard warriors.
Man, I agree 110% AN 10 was the worst. Rory getting with Brandi damn near killed my interest in the story entirely. Personally, I don't care for how he's turned Dylan into King Dingaling fucking everything that moves either.
 
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What the hell is hypocritical about making a comparison that clearly plays out with the subject matter being discussed? Daval asked for ideas, something that is normal in the medium, even writers of weekly novels often do that to find out what direction their readers want. Daval never said, ‘'write the story for me and I'll just do the art.’' He asked for an idea and from that idea he developed the story. Not to mention fanfic creators that really is the most common. '‘I guess I wish these works looked/were more of a passion project than just a job.’' Well, I think it's been known that Daval sees this as a job for a long time and he doesn't do it for the love of the art. It's pretty naive to think that at some point a NSFW artist does things for love.
I'll assume you have dyslexia and not just that you were too lazy to read the whole comment and know that what I said was in the plural.
"I'll assume you have dyslexia" lmao if you want people to listen to what you say don't insult them out of pocket. I don't think we'll be able to come to some sort of understanding so this conversation isn't gonna go anywhere and mods will just nuke it if it goes further into argument territory. Have a nice day.
 

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"I'll assume you have dyslexia" lmao if you want people to listen to what you say don't insult them out of pocket. I don't think we'll be able to come to some sort of understanding so this conversation isn't gonna go anywhere and mods will just nuke it if it goes further into argument territory. Have a nice day.
Really, man? You run out of arguments and this is your response. Now, you think a having dyslexia is an insult? When I simply asked you an honest question, that is, if you don't have reading problems, then yes you were lazy enough to not read the answer and know that the last was a comment in general. But anyway I don't think we'll get anywhere, have a nice day.
 

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Any thoughts on TH's new direction? Is Aaron now in love with Sarah, or does he still want to be with Alice?
I wrote something about that, here:

I agree with some parts of this, and I disagree with others. I think both Daniel and Aaron have Oedipal Complexes, only that Aaron's was developed much more subtly--well, not so much anymore, haha! I think Aaron has always been attracted to his mother, it just has been disguised through his attraction to Alice. Think about it: Alice (presumably older) is a shapely, blonde haired blued eyed beauty just like his mother. It was more "acceptable" for Aaron to pursue Alice because she's his cousin, and she's around his age. But then the night of Chapter 6 arrives, where he witnesses his mother having sex with his cousin. Sarah broke three conventions: (1) her marriage to his father, (2) the age difference, and (3) the taboo of blood relatives having sexual relations. As traumatic as the scene was for Aaron, now there's no restrictions in living out his fantasies with his mother. She cheated on his father, she had sex with someone his age, and she had sex with a blood relative. Sarah has no moral platform on which to base her rejection of Aaron, other than the possibility that she may love David more than she loves her son. That's the reason I like that Daval included that line where Aaron asks Sarah if she loves David more than she loves him. Because Sarah really has no excuse at that point.

I agree with you that there's a difference in both Aaron and Daniel. Daniel, like you said, may see his mother as something immaculate, free from impurity, whom he seeks to sully with his dominance, thereby possessing her; Aaron on the other hand stood witness to his mother's impurity, and therefore he seeks to reestablish his bond with her not through hostility with his father, like Daniel does, (Aaron seems to love his father quite a bit) but through hostility with the threat, David. Also, Aaron is acting as a proxy for his father, being the one to hold Sarah accountable for her infidelity while opting for a means that doesn't produce the dissolution of his immediate family. In other words, Aaron seeks to accommodate Sarah's ease to arousal in place of his own father. That's Oedipus Complex 101: he's replacing his father, just without the hostility towards his father. I think Aaron very much loves Sarah; he should hate her, but he mentions, understandably, quite a lot that he loves her in spite of what she has done.
What do you think?
 
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