Well, you may or may not remove the monster scenes or however you decide, but don't remove the NTR/Cheating as that makes you make different decisions, otherwise it would just be a typical linear game, but if they have managed to change your mind, it will be obvious that they will make you remove the NTR as well.
I won't remove the NTR elements and I won't remove the lesbian scenes. Like I said, in order to stay on patreon I had to remove the monster sex scenes, no matter what.
Now I want to know if my patreons want to see the old monster sex scenes or not. If yes maybe there will be a few other "not official" zombies scenes. We will wait for the result of the poll.
I won't remove the NTR elements and I won't remove the lesbian scenes. Like I said, in order to stay on patreon I had to remove the monster sex scenes, no matter what.
Now I want to know if my patreons want to see the old monster sex scenes or not. If yes maybe there will be a few other "not official" zombies scenes. We will wait for the result of the poll.
yet its almost a third of the sex scenes. if you didnt want it talked about so much you shouldnt have made so much of it. now instead of the supposed focus of the game , the mc you are dragging away from it even more by adding more dudes. you are going in a circle
I won't remove the NTR elements and I won't remove the lesbian scenes. Like I said, in order to stay on patreon I had to remove the monster sex scenes, no matter what.
Now I want to know if my patreons want to see the old monster sex scenes or not. If yes maybe there will be a few other "not official" zombies scenes. We will wait for the result of the poll.
As I was looking in the poll post and here you really comment on a "fan-made version" of the scenes..... It's just an excuse to sound like if people really wanted the original content (and oh my god, 86% currently do, what a surprise) your going to make an "alternative patch" to the content and post here or do you really expect that "someone makes a fan-made version with the OG content"? The use of words for me was kind of a bizarre one....
yet its almost a third of the sex scenes. if you didnt want it talked about so much you shouldnt have made so much of it. now instead of the supposed focus of the game , the mc you are dragging away from it even more by adding more dudes. you are going in a circle
Adding other dudes don't mean NTR, the blonde haired guy is gonna be really important for the plot. I just don't want to create a world where only girls have survived, that wouldn't make any sense.
Well, you may or may not remove the monster scenes or however you decide, but don't remove the NTR/Cheating as that makes you make different decisions, otherwise it would just be a typical linear game, but if they have managed to change your mind, it will be obvious that they will make you remove the NTR as well.
I think the presence of monster scenes in this dark world of the game is important for the development of the character's personality. These scenes show that monsters are dangerous. I don't think it would make any sense without these scenes. Also, these scenes aVoiDabLe... As long as there are avOiDaBle scenes, there is no point in bringing this up. Hot Tomato, always go ahead as you planned there are people who support you. That was idea but making two versions of game is pointless as long as the scenes can be avoidable. I'm looking forward to the voting on patreon.
Well, some of you gave me the idea about making two versions of the game, one without the monster sex scene (this version is gonna be the one available on Patreon, I don't have the choice, game would have been banned soon or later.) and maybe another one with them. I still have the old script. I need time to think and will do a poll on my patreon page to see if the player base still want to have those scenes or not.
Incest and Rape are the ones that's going to get you kicked off Patreon.
Kicked off Patreon for monster sex? Have you seen the amount of that on there?
Alternative could be carry on with the vision you had, leave it in the game make a patch that just enables it if people want it, if not patched it would stay the version without that stuff. Just like 95% do with incest on Patreon, and have a "side patch" that enables the family friendly content.
You can choose their relationship to be just friends so it's not technically incest themed.. hence why there are a lot of game that allow relationship choices are allowed on Patreon
Hmm.... sad. I didn't even know it was a issue of contention, but I guess I'm not too surprised. That said, now that I think about it, mommy survive the rape scene at the end of the last one. I mean, it is kinda weird to just not eat her after the rape, but i recall her being able to leave. Not that it matters now, I guess.
I've mentioned it before and I'll do it again. Hot Tomato has a genius talent for capturing the mood and emotions of the characters extremely well. That's why the game was an insider tip for me... until that gang rape by a bunch of zombies happened.
I think he wastes his talent with these disgusting scenes. You see a horde of zombies frantically raping a woman who can't get a clear thought together in the process. How can she?
What do you get out of this scene as a player? Do you want to be one of the zombies? I have no clue.
Oh well. Before you give me facepalm again... remember, they count like Likes!
I understand your point of view, I really do. But still, I'm not trying to chase the approval of negative people, I want to make a game, to listen to the community and to the players in order to make the game evolve in a good way. And the majority of feedback I had about those scenes was negative comments, so the question is: should I really put so much time and efforts into those scenes if the majority of the players who are supporting me don't want to have them?
Well, I'm making a poll about it on my patreon page for the supporters; so now the fate of those scenes are in their hands.
To be honest, this is the first time I've heard that patreon doesn't like monster scenes; incest is a known patreon issue, many projects have run into this, but it's easily fixed with an incest patch. Reading the posts of people in the public domain on patreon of the last two versions, I saw that they like your game and want more. There seems to be no negative messages, of course, maybe I don’t know everything.
Many people on patreon write that the opportunity to get on stage with monsters scares them and makes them not make mistakes, adds horror, etc. It's true, this is the essence of your world in the game, this fear, it should scare. They are not forced to watch the scenes, and therefore, whoever wants to skip them, while also being satisfied with the game.
The idea with 2 versions, this obviously needs more details, I do not support any changes, as I already said. One version will be defective and it will be reflected. Rather, the logical option inside the game is to enable / disable scenes with monsters. At the moment, if you still decide to change something, this is the best I could come up with.
Even the plot moment with the bitten MC, why does he become stronger if he no longer needs to protect his loved ones, there are no more monsters in the game (they will only eat everyone, but this is banal, especially in a porn game), his fears from the past are no longer so impressive. And if, according to my assumption, he has immunity, then this is god mode and the character breaks. Now he always has a fear for his family, because there are worse things in the game than death, only in this way he could become stronger in order to protect them from this.
Trying to figure out what the "new world" looks like with such changes, I come to the conclusion that it is the uniqueness of the project that simply disappears. I definitely don't want this.
I've mentioned it before and I'll do it again. Hot Tomato has a genius talent for capturing the mood and emotions of the characters extremely well. That's why the game was an insider tip for me... until that gang rape by a bunch of zombies happened.
I think he wastes his talent with these disgusting scenes. You see a horde of zombies frantically raping a woman who can't get a clear thought together in the process. How can she?
What do you get out of this scene as a player? Do you want to be one of the zombies? I have no clue.
Oh well. Before you give me facepalm again... remember, they count like Likes!
I haven't seen the zombie scenes, so I don't have an opinion about them (other than I know I'm not going to like them). Actually for me, the only interest I have in those scenes is to prevent them from happening (in a way it's gratifying when you know that you've avoided them).
I have to agree... while it's the relationship between the main characters I enjoy the most about this VN, having the "what ifs" gives you a real sense of the struggle they're going through and encourages trying to make the right decisions, especially for players like me that turn off the warnings for the "bad ends".
There's a million incest VNs on this website, and though I like the approach you took to the character's relationship development being on the slower & more realistic side, there's no sense of a greater plot without the zombies/danger, and it becomes just another excuse for characters having sex, rather than a coherent VN with an interesting story like it was up until now. Imo it's a lot more fun having an interesting story with some sex, than interesting sex with a bare bones story. Just my 0.02$.
Well was going to pick this up again after being away for a while but reading about the game changes and the content removal think il wait and find out the results of the poll. Shame tbh this is one game that I quite enjoyed I'm not a huge ntr fan but think the monster scenes fit with the end of the world vibe this game has and gives the player something to enjoy if they like ntr and a better feeling of selecting the right options if u don't . (Tho reading comments on here i agree with others that either a patch is needed or a enable/disable feature for the monster scenes)
