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Contrast of colors often makes it impossible to read the text, then when I can see that there's even text to read it's too small/skinny and annoying to read.
Text buttons on the map at least are too small. Can read them just fine but trying to locate the 10x10px button is annoying, then half the time it just switch's to a black screen or flash's something then goes back to the map.
Not quite sure how you missed the save/load system being 100% broken, between that and rollback being perma-disabled (unren apparently can't enable it) it makes fixing harder than it needs to be. (edit: oh, I got it enabled but it doesn't matter because reloading through the console runs into the same issue loading a savegame does)
What I can play of it so far I like, though I haven't quite figured out how to fix the gui mess the code issues are easy enough
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Text buttons on the map at least are too small. Can read them just fine but trying to locate the 10x10px button is annoying, then half the time it just switch's to a black screen or flash's something then goes back to the map.
Not quite sure how you missed the save/load system being 100% broken, between that and rollback being perma-disabled (unren apparently can't enable it) it makes fixing harder than it needs to be. (edit: oh, I got it enabled but it doesn't matter because reloading through the console runs into the same issue loading a savegame does)
What I can play of it so far I like, though I haven't quite figured out how to fix the gui mess the code issues are easy enough
- Dec 27, 2016
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i guess the game gave you choice of going with tranny path or the other one, if she fucked all the mc's family and mc himself i guess that's all because you picked the right choices for that
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- May 31, 2017
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I'm a little worried that the branching of the MC will make this game incredibly difficult for you to write/code/Illustrate in the future.
On another topic, it may be beneficial to make a statement in the OP about avoiding discussions on the validity of Transgenderism (etcetera) in this thread. Those conversations will bloat this thread. If people want to get their jollies off explaining their deep thoughts and intellect on the sexuality of humans, maybe there's another thread they can spew their BS into...
All that said; I am not trans, nor do I have a single friend who is trans, but the indecency that people treat each other with is appalling.
On another topic, it may be beneficial to make a statement in the OP about avoiding discussions on the validity of Transgenderism (etcetera) in this thread. Those conversations will bloat this thread. If people want to get their jollies off explaining their deep thoughts and intellect on the sexuality of humans, maybe there's another thread they can spew their BS into...
Posts such as this are not an actual discussion on the game itself. The fact that a person saw what it's about and took the time to post that they will "pass" is actually pretty passive-aggressive.
All that said; I am not trans, nor do I have a single friend who is trans, but the indecency that people treat each other with is appalling.
- Dec 27, 2016
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i like playing perverted stuff, stuff you can't do in real life that's my point of view of erotic games.
playing adult game simulate real life is really boring if i want cheap boobs or penis all what i need is ask mr google or do it with my wife:FeelsGoodMan: if a game gave me a choice of fuck a girl in toilet or watch her piss i will definitely pick the second choice even im not into watersports, so i don't mind a beautiful tranny bang mc or whatever since it's perverted and can't do or find in real life:angel:
playing adult game simulate real life is really boring if i want cheap boobs or penis all what i need is ask mr google or do it with my wife:FeelsGoodMan: if a game gave me a choice of fuck a girl in toilet or watch her piss i will definitely pick the second choice even im not into watersports, so i don't mind a beautiful tranny bang mc or whatever since it's perverted and can't do or find in real life:angel:
- Jun 10, 2017
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My god... Alright, I'll try to be constructive, but it will be hard...
1) Don't declare your class in a label ! There's an init block statement especially for this. Same for the flags and things like this.
2) Your game crash when you try to load a saved made at a wrong place. This because you didn't use the said init block. The needed variable haven't been saved because whatever, and like they don't exist yet when you try to load the game from the main menu, it lead to an unavoidable crash. Hopefully, just starting a game, then loading the save is enough to correct this, but still this shouldn't happen even in the first public alpha.
3) If you go to the console, you lost the background for the dialog box (and the text). In result, you can't read anymore the choice option if the background is light. I don't know what the hell you've done with the dialog box, but seriously, if you really want to innovate, at least put it on overlay. Firstly because it must always return back on screen, secondly because it must hide when the player press "H" to see only the screen.
Oh, by the way, it don't always disappear when it should (need to change room then come back to the bedroom for this).
4) Talking about the choice... There's people who aren't young anymore and don't have a wide big screen. The choice are mostly unreadable for my old eyes because it's way too small. As for the text itself, at least the font is easy to read, so it compensate a little it's small size.
And while I'm talking about to small text, what's wrote on the quest log ? No, seriously, how am I supposed to read a 5 pixels (yes, I counted them) text ?
Oh, there's an indication of the place you are (you live/sleep ?) and the time it is... Why haven't seen it before ? Oh yes, because it's almost invisible due to the font and color.
Choose your fonts readable and think about people who don't have the same material than you. 1280x1024 are still more than 40% of the screens owned actually. It's not a real problem with Ren'py since it resize itself, but then the text become smaller. And like the picture are just 1920x1080, I assume it's not even a question of screen resolution but really a too small size for the text (or a too big screen).
5) The quest log shouldn't stay on the screen at the same time than the stats, and the opposite is also true. Just put questLog/statpgeisvisible at False when you put the other at True. By the way, I will not really complain about it because it's one of my own default, but try to stick to a naming convention. Why camel case for one and all lower case for the other ? You'll quickly forget the correct syntax and add a lot of bugs just because you'll address the wrong variable.
6) Haven't said it before, but finding the yes/no button when you save is a mini-game by itself. Same for loading obviously.
7) Seriously, having to pass time three time in the motel before being able to sleep ? Then four times before something happen in the morning ? Script this whole thing. You fall asleep once you reach the motel and are awaken by Laura knocking at the door. It's way better than letting the player figure out by itself that there's nothing to do yet except waiting.
8) And then we are back to "wait, wait and wait again". I know it's an early stage, but you'll loose a lot of people because of this. Especially since I have the feeling that it will stay like this in the future. The few first days will be mostly empty... Add task even if they do nothing, add wandering on location...
Don't know, you can go walk on the beach by yourself, thinking about your life. Just a background, few words and a time passing. Anything which don't let the feeling that there's absolutely nothing to do except waiting the next events.
Hey, why not making the cleaning of the pool harder at start. Due to it's state, it will probably need more than few hours to be cleaned. Stick to the $50, but make the player pass three/four day cleaning it.
At least it will be something to do, so better than just waiting. Even with a full content, if the game start like this, you'll lost almost everyone because it's just boring. No one want to pass full in-game days waiting for something which don't even happen.
9) By the way, like I haven't been on the bar, the location is still visible (same for the beach), but obviously unreachable. Is this a bug, a feature, don't know, but it feel like a bug.
10) Oh, there's something (planned) on the bathroom at 9... Oh, and also in the bedroom. Oh, wait, no, it's the exact same event. Let's me try and... yes, you can also see it (I mean, the placeholder) if you're at the pool. Well, at least I'll not have to check each room each hour.
Oh, weird. While the event is present whatever your location, you need to be in the bedroom to go eat with mom... It should be the contrary.
This said, how are we supposed to see a white icon which is half (when not entirely) on an almost white background ?
11) sometimes the map's background is only shown as a flash when you click somewhere.
12) When you're forced to go sleep... the "sleep" icon don't disappear. I assume that the flag isn't lowered by the forced sleep event.
13) Once you get Sarah to the pool, it's bath time every time ; strangely, except at 20h... oh yes, because mom is showering.
14) Oh, there's a message... And it's in a big size and on bold. Too bad that only "dical Emerge cy" is readable because it's on yellow over a white background..
15) Please, please, please, reduce the size of the avatars !!!! 114 Mo for 24 pictures which will end displayed as 200x200 is way too much ! Plus, by reducing the size yourself, you'll be master of the process and sure that the result will be good looking.
Ok, well, I'll stop here... Haven't had the missing image problem, but I don't want to know if it's because I missed something or haven't hit the "wait" button longer enough. Anyway between this and everything said by the other, you've a lot of works behind you.
I just hope that all these comments, mine include, will not make you stop, because your game look promising.
The CG are good, the effect used in a way which improve the scene. Looking at the game is a pleasure. The story is also kind of interesting and not this badly wrote. For one time I didn't had the feeling that I have already played this game... but you really need to improve your coding skills and Ren'py knowledge before thinking of the next release. Because all the good parts are quickly hidden by the really bad code and all its errors.
You've wrote 10 commandments on your blog, and have really followed only one of them, the ninth...
Your game is not ready. You used mechanism that you don't master (but well it don't hide the story, just the screen). The player need to flood the "wait" icon to see, well nothing it's just a placeholder. We player already have four quests, and I'm pretty sure that the last one mark the end of the actual version ; but well, like I can't read the announce and the quest log... The available content is the introduction, everything else is nothing, just three pictures, and perhaps a scene with the mother in the bathroom if you are patient enough. And you haven't tested a single thing, right ? I know that missing a bug is easy, but seriously, take a better look at my points 2, 3, 5, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14... You simply can't have tested your game and missed them all. It can seem harsh like comment, but don't write such commandments if you aren't ready to follow them all yourself.
1) Don't declare your class in a label ! There's an init block statement especially for this. Same for the flags and things like this.
2) Your game crash when you try to load a saved made at a wrong place. This because you didn't use the said init block. The needed variable haven't been saved because whatever, and like they don't exist yet when you try to load the game from the main menu, it lead to an unavoidable crash. Hopefully, just starting a game, then loading the save is enough to correct this, but still this shouldn't happen even in the first public alpha.
3) If you go to the console, you lost the background for the dialog box (and the text). In result, you can't read anymore the choice option if the background is light. I don't know what the hell you've done with the dialog box, but seriously, if you really want to innovate, at least put it on overlay. Firstly because it must always return back on screen, secondly because it must hide when the player press "H" to see only the screen.
Oh, by the way, it don't always disappear when it should (need to change room then come back to the bedroom for this).
4) Talking about the choice... There's people who aren't young anymore and don't have a wide big screen. The choice are mostly unreadable for my old eyes because it's way too small. As for the text itself, at least the font is easy to read, so it compensate a little it's small size.
And while I'm talking about to small text, what's wrote on the quest log ? No, seriously, how am I supposed to read a 5 pixels (yes, I counted them) text ?
Oh, there's an indication of the place you are (you live/sleep ?) and the time it is... Why haven't seen it before ? Oh yes, because it's almost invisible due to the font and color.
Choose your fonts readable and think about people who don't have the same material than you. 1280x1024 are still more than 40% of the screens owned actually. It's not a real problem with Ren'py since it resize itself, but then the text become smaller. And like the picture are just 1920x1080, I assume it's not even a question of screen resolution but really a too small size for the text (or a too big screen).
5) The quest log shouldn't stay on the screen at the same time than the stats, and the opposite is also true. Just put questLog/statpgeisvisible at False when you put the other at True. By the way, I will not really complain about it because it's one of my own default, but try to stick to a naming convention. Why camel case for one and all lower case for the other ? You'll quickly forget the correct syntax and add a lot of bugs just because you'll address the wrong variable.
6) Haven't said it before, but finding the yes/no button when you save is a mini-game by itself. Same for loading obviously.
7) Seriously, having to pass time three time in the motel before being able to sleep ? Then four times before something happen in the morning ? Script this whole thing. You fall asleep once you reach the motel and are awaken by Laura knocking at the door. It's way better than letting the player figure out by itself that there's nothing to do yet except waiting.
8) And then we are back to "wait, wait and wait again". I know it's an early stage, but you'll loose a lot of people because of this. Especially since I have the feeling that it will stay like this in the future. The few first days will be mostly empty... Add task even if they do nothing, add wandering on location...
Don't know, you can go walk on the beach by yourself, thinking about your life. Just a background, few words and a time passing. Anything which don't let the feeling that there's absolutely nothing to do except waiting the next events.
Hey, why not making the cleaning of the pool harder at start. Due to it's state, it will probably need more than few hours to be cleaned. Stick to the $50, but make the player pass three/four day cleaning it.
At least it will be something to do, so better than just waiting. Even with a full content, if the game start like this, you'll lost almost everyone because it's just boring. No one want to pass full in-game days waiting for something which don't even happen.
9) By the way, like I haven't been on the bar, the location is still visible (same for the beach), but obviously unreachable. Is this a bug, a feature, don't know, but it feel like a bug.
10) Oh, there's something (planned) on the bathroom at 9... Oh, and also in the bedroom. Oh, wait, no, it's the exact same event. Let's me try and... yes, you can also see it (I mean, the placeholder) if you're at the pool. Well, at least I'll not have to check each room each hour.
Oh, weird. While the event is present whatever your location, you need to be in the bedroom to go eat with mom... It should be the contrary.
This said, how are we supposed to see a white icon which is half (when not entirely) on an almost white background ?
11) sometimes the map's background is only shown as a flash when you click somewhere.
12) When you're forced to go sleep... the "sleep" icon don't disappear. I assume that the flag isn't lowered by the forced sleep event.
13) Once you get Sarah to the pool, it's bath time every time ; strangely, except at 20h... oh yes, because mom is showering.
14) Oh, there's a message... And it's in a big size and on bold. Too bad that only "dical Emerge cy" is readable because it's on yellow over a white background..
15) Please, please, please, reduce the size of the avatars !!!! 114 Mo for 24 pictures which will end displayed as 200x200 is way too much ! Plus, by reducing the size yourself, you'll be master of the process and sure that the result will be good looking.
Ok, well, I'll stop here... Haven't had the missing image problem, but I don't want to know if it's because I missed something or haven't hit the "wait" button longer enough. Anyway between this and everything said by the other, you've a lot of works behind you.
I just hope that all these comments, mine include, will not make you stop, because your game look promising.
The CG are good, the effect used in a way which improve the scene. Looking at the game is a pleasure. The story is also kind of interesting and not this badly wrote. For one time I didn't had the feeling that I have already played this game... but you really need to improve your coding skills and Ren'py knowledge before thinking of the next release. Because all the good parts are quickly hidden by the really bad code and all its errors.
You've wrote 10 commandments on your blog, and have really followed only one of them, the ninth...
Your game is not ready. You used mechanism that you don't master (but well it don't hide the story, just the screen). The player need to flood the "wait" icon to see, well nothing it's just a placeholder. We player already have four quests, and I'm pretty sure that the last one mark the end of the actual version ; but well, like I can't read the announce and the quest log... The available content is the introduction, everything else is nothing, just three pictures, and perhaps a scene with the mother in the bathroom if you are patient enough. And you haven't tested a single thing, right ? I know that missing a bug is easy, but seriously, take a better look at my points 2, 3, 5, 6, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 14... You simply can't have tested your game and missed them all. It can seem harsh like comment, but don't write such commandments if you aren't ready to follow them all yourself.
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You can do everything in real life that you can do in erotic games, I am of course talking about somewhat normal games, not those Japanese slime girl ones.
- Dec 27, 2016
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you can only let a tranny fuck you and your family in an erotic game
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- Sep 25, 2017
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yo, this game is lecturing me in what a transgender is when introducing laura.
is this a porn game or a sjw propaganda attempt? I just wanna fuck the girls(males).
is this a porn game or a sjw propaganda attempt? I just wanna fuck the girls(males).
- May 6, 2017
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Totally off topic, but was that really worth registering an account on this site to post?
The art is very well done, even the trap character is presented in a way that's kinda hard to hate, however, 1) It feels buggy, for example scenes that should happen in certain rooms trigger even when your outside. 2) there are way too many "place holders" I get that the dev doesn't want to block content or quests just cuz the renders aren't done, but maybe hold off on those story line elements till you have them done. And lastly 3) there is WAY too much waiting around with nothing to do bu click wait 10 times then click sleep.
This is a really interesting concept, and different from alot of similar games by a mile. It's just way way to early to be posting it up F95. I'll keep an eye out and if it progressess i'll probably support on patreon.
This is a really interesting concept, and different from alot of similar games by a mile. It's just way way to early to be posting it up F95. I'll keep an eye out and if it progressess i'll probably support on patreon.
- Oct 29, 2017
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THIS! EY SO MUCH THIS!!!
I would never meet a girl pissing in the park and she will beg me to piss on her, gentleman as i am i would tell her, that her clothes will get wet, but she might be a fucked up bitch and say "thats non of your business" and so i would just piss on her.
That's what erotic games are for.
- May 6, 2017
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@Thundorn - Honest question; have you played your own game? What is the player supposed to do after the cut to the motel? There's no transition, no exposition, and no instruction. Can't click on any other locations from the map, can't read any of the transparent menus.
Second alpha doesn't error, but instead quietly suffocates into a dead-end. Fool me once, shame on me....
I can look at your code and see what it's possible for me to do next, but that's the only way to get a clue.
Please play your game.
Second alpha doesn't error, but instead quietly suffocates into a dead-end. Fool me once, shame on me....
I can look at your code and see what it's possible for me to do next, but that's the only way to get a clue.
Please play your game.
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I've got a bunch of it fixed, haven't checked which files I've mucked around with yet and haven't gotten all the scripted scenes working either so I didn't attach any files to the post.@Thundorn - Honest question; have you played your own game? What is the player supposed to do after the cut to the motel? There's no transition, no exposition, and no instruction. Can't click on any other locations from the map, can't read any of the transparent menus.
Second alpha doesn't error, but instead quietly suffocates into a dead-end. Fool me once, shame on me....
I can look at your code and see what it's possible for me to do next, but that's the only way to get a clue.
Please play your game.
Day 2 (coded as day 1) you have to wait a number of hours before something happens...then you have something to do at the pool 1x every 5 days to earn money. After 13 days, if you wake up by 6am the next scene triggers but neither of the available CG is implemented. A certain day/time should also have a scene with the mother in the bathroom, but the CG shows it to be rather boring for a porn game and the way it's coded it never actually triggers. There should be another scene not quite implemented 3 days after the 13 day one, but I broke something and can't progress anymore without replaying yet again.
You can't go back to the Beach, there's nothing there. Bar & Hotel only unlock if you stood up for yourself with the mother and even then you only go to each place once before they lock up again (no point in returning at this point in the game, the CG & script isn't there). There's 2 more places hinted at in the scripts, but other than a major money grind incoming (based on how much money is earned & required) they're not of much interest. Not sure if I'll get to enabling the first of those (it's mostly scripted, lots of CG currently missing for it)...haven't figured out what the Dev fubar'd with the save system so restarting & reloading is a MAJOR PITA! >.< (guess I need to work on that, makes it nearly impossible to fix anything after playing to day 5 or so, it's so annoying to get back to there with saves broken)
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My point is that players shouldn't have to do all that work get it to function.
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Thank you for the comments.
I knew when i started this game that people were either going to love or hate Laura, and that regardless of what I say in my thread pointless "Transgender... i'll pass" comments will come, because everyone feels that their opinion is important, and it takes very little effort for me to scroll past them.
To be honest I am more concerned with the people who didn't read the statement in the OP that clearly states that this is an introduction to the characters ONLY and that the the main content of the game is coming in future updates. Having said that If you didn't read the OP I guess I can understand why you feel the ranting about "no content" is appropriate.
My background is with C#, C++, pascal, basic and cobol and I some of the quirks in Renp'y catch me out from time to time so I appreciate people who have more experience with picking up on mistakes, but i do feel that writing huge posts is not appropriate, perhaps an email or Pm would be a better place, so that other readers don't have to go through it.
If you are a code junkie and decompile my code PLEASE do not post spoilers on this thread! Just because you know what is or isn't coming, doesn't give you the right to spoil other peoples chance to discover it for themselves.
I knew when i started this game that people were either going to love or hate Laura, and that regardless of what I say in my thread pointless "Transgender... i'll pass" comments will come, because everyone feels that their opinion is important, and it takes very little effort for me to scroll past them.
To be honest I am more concerned with the people who didn't read the statement in the OP that clearly states that this is an introduction to the characters ONLY and that the the main content of the game is coming in future updates. Having said that If you didn't read the OP I guess I can understand why you feel the ranting about "no content" is appropriate.
My background is with C#, C++, pascal, basic and cobol and I some of the quirks in Renp'y catch me out from time to time so I appreciate people who have more experience with picking up on mistakes, but i do feel that writing huge posts is not appropriate, perhaps an email or Pm would be a better place, so that other readers don't have to go through it.
If you are a code junkie and decompile my code PLEASE do not post spoilers on this thread! Just because you know what is or isn't coming, doesn't give you the right to spoil other peoples chance to discover it for themselves.
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@Thundorn , do you have a way for the code junkies to help you? Can you give us an address or a site where they can send you the reports?
This way you can get information so you can use it to improve your code.
This way you can get information so you can use it to improve your code.
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Sure thing. I am always happy to receive constructive emails at dev@thundorn.com