Dessolos

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I agree even if I somewhat agree but only to a certain point cause it's not like they change drastically just enough I consider them 2 different versions of the same person.
 
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I agree even if I somewhat agree but only to a certain point cause it's not like they change drastically just enough I consider them 2 different versions of the same person.
She doesn't change mentally. It's basically, Steph in relationship with a man who shares her sexual interests vs Steph in relationship with a man who doesn't share them.
 

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She doesn't change mentally. It's basically, Steph in relationship with a man who shares her sexual interests vs Steph in relationship with a man who doesn't share them.
I agree just enough of a change for me that I see / consider both 2 different versions of her, is all im saying. But still the same person on the inside.
 

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If a poor person is nice to people, but if when he becomes rich (lottery for ins.) he's mean to people, would you say it's not the same person or it's 2 different versions of himself?
 

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If a poor person is nice to people, but if when he becomes rich (lottery for ins.) he's mean to people, would you say it's not the same person or it's 2 different versions of himself?
Id say different versions of himself even if it's the same person. Because sometimes people just change in ways they wouldn't think possible until something happens in their life. Especially if you think of your future when you are younger you might say no way would do X but you actually would do X after certain things happen in your life.
 

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Show the law that say a VN should not take more than 2 years to be completed
Also

You are a very contradictory person, my dude
I hope you at least understand the meaning of law and specially the difference between 'should' and 'must'. Law is something you must obey. I didn't use the word.
The comment about Oceanlab's Summer's gone is different. There were other comments before that and the total meaning was entirely different than your quote of a single sentence of mine.
 

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I hope you at least understand the meaning of law and specially the difference between 'should' and 'must'. Law is something you must obey. I didn't use the word.
The comment about Oceanlab's Summer's gone is different. There were other comments before that and the total meaning was entirely different than your quote of a single sentence of mine.
So tell us why it's okay for Mr. "HALF A DECADE WITHOUT SEX SCENES" to take his time, but this one needs to be finished in two years?

But don't worry, DLC is in the end stage right now.
 
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There are plenty of Devs finishing withing 2 years.
What I don't understand is why you guys are getting butthurt about this topic ???
cant speak for everyone but for me it's because you are negative for no reason. Dont like the dev or how long it takes fine but to me the way you said comes across as you dont respect hard work of many dev's because it's rare for one to finish a good game in 2 years.
 

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There are plenty of Devs finishing withing 2 years
And how much content those games has when finished compared to this one? How many features, paths and sub-paths? How much support those devs has compared to this one? How complex is the renders/scenes those other devs produce?
What I don't understand is why you guys are getting butthurt about this topic ???
Because you just come to the thread all rude shitting a rule saying how much time a VN should take like you was some A-grade asshole. Which is more ironic because this is one of the VNs with the best release pace and very close to be finished compared to many other devs that take 9-12 months to release a update and whose games will still take many years to be completed, if ever.
 

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cant speak for everyone but for me it's because you are negative for no reason. Dont like the dev or how long it takes fine but to me the way you said comes across as you dont respect hard work of many dev's because it's rare for one to finish a good game in 2 years.
Are you a native speaker ?
When was I showing any negativity ? You could say, I was being impatient.
I usually ask the same question in every game thread that I like and I wanna know when it will finish as I only like to play completed ones..
So, it's kinda a possitivity.
 

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Because that is a sh** opinion. Why are you butthurt over us being butthurt of you having a sh** opinion?

Did you complain about it taking more than 2 years too?
Oh,,, I did say a lot of things... Why don't you try to find them ? Feels like you guys have a lot of free times to shit talk to other people.
 

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Are you a native speaker ?
When was I showing any negativity ? You could say, I was being impatient.
I usually ask the same question in every game thread that I like and I wanna know when it will finish as I only like to play completed ones..
So, it's kinda a possitivity.
how does saying "A VN should not take more than 2 years." not sound negative / rude . maybe not to you but you should understand how it sounds that way to others.
 

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And how much content those games has when finished compared to this one? How many features, paths and sub-paths? How much support those devs has compared to this one? How complex is the renders/scenes those other devs produce?

Because you just come to the thread all rude shitting a rule saying how much time a VN should take like you was some A-grade asshole. Which is more ironic because this is one of the VNs with the best release pace and very close to be finished compared to many other devs that take 9-12 months to release a update and whose games will still take many years to be completed, if ever.
I will just stop wasting my time here. But to your last question..If we list top 10 VNs of all time then it will be found that most of them were finished within 2 years..
For example,
Depraved Awekaning,
Treasure of Nadia
Acting Lessons
Leap of Faith
etc etc..
Have a nice day....
 

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I will just stop wasting my time here. But to your last question..If we list top 10 VNs of all time then it will be found that most of them were finished within 2 years..
For example,
Depraved Awekaning,
Treasure of Nadia
Acting Lessons
Leap of Faith
etc etc..
Have a nice day....
Emm you can order them by top rated here. And you will see that you are wrong.

And if you go to vndb.org, which has a massive database and you do that. You will see that even professional studios cannot keep with 2 years developmet cycle.

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Emm some aloe vera?
 
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I ran into a problem where a news article remained on screen after shutting my computer, now I can't minimize it and it lays over the entire screen even as the story progresses. Any known way to fix this? Otherwise I'll need to start my game over essentially (from a very early point). Very frustrating bug
 
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Defending Lydia Collier Development Log


Hello everybody!

Sorry for not posting in a little while, there's been a lot I've been doing for the game this month that I can't really show you as it's not creating new content exactly.

So what have I been up to?

Firstly, I've been clearing the custom backlog, these will be out shortly over the weekend and any not requested by now will be created after v.0.16 (you can still tell me what you want if you've subbed at that tier, just it won't be worked on until then).

Secondly, I've done all the Accounting and Taxes for White Phantom Games for 2022/23. Incredibly boring and not exciting at all but it is something that I'm legally required to do now once a year as thanks to everybody's support this is now my full time job.

Thirdly, I've been working on loads of coding and changes for v.0.16, and this is getting near completion. I'm going to try and get the full v.0.16 update out in December, and this will add Ellie, Jenna and Lydia's final content plus all the coding changes for the social media and achievements. I've now got all the images and coding for achievements basically done, just will need testing at some point in December.

Fourthly, I've created a new unique hub location for the game that will be used quite extensively in the final two days. The Tube is quite a staple of London, and the reason why it hasn't really featured is simply I didn't have a good asset for it. Early this year I got one, and you may have seen it in quite a bland form with Ellie's evening. Now I've remade a lot of it and the MC will start using it near his house, I've changed a lot of things to make them fit in with DLC's universe, and also getting some audio for it, and now I'm done with this area. There's some images included, and you'll see quite a lot of it on Jenna's path, and having this premade, pre-lit and ready to go will speed things up a lot in future days.

Additionally a lot of people have spoken about the animations, or lack of, in the game. I tried reaching out to some very good NSFW animators I managed to find and whilst they had reasonable commission prices, none really wanted to work with the software I use, or use my character models. So I have been looking into this if this is your gripe with the game and will continue to do so, but I haven't found one person interested yet.

Finally, I've been continuing to make Jenna's content and a couple of previews from her day so far are attached.

Last year I did the Advent Calendar for Christmas which I think I'll do again this year, so keep an eye out for that on Twitter (@WhitePhantom18) or Discord ( )!

It will just be one image per day this year as I've got an update to focus on and finish, and I'll post the images in 4k for everybody at the Supporter Tier and above to keep on the 25th when it is all done.

Thanks for all the new and continued support!

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