VN Ren'Py Defending Lydia Collier [v0.17 Beta 1.3] [White Phantom Games]

[Luigi.Mangione]

So I'm just going to warn you guys to temper expectations because as of right now its pretty rough and also very short although I don't think the very short part is going to change with time. Maybe (hopefully) it will but...

 

[bobofthebush]

So I'm just going to warn you guys to temper expectations because as of right now its pretty rough and also very short although I don't think the very short part is going to change with time. Maybe (hopefully) it will but...

I was always expecting a pretty short playthrough for this build. Whilst he has said its the single largest update in terms of renders (when its all released) its the first time in a very long time that he has advanced all of the routes together.

To me that was always likely going to be that each route does not feel very long to play through and advance, but that you then load up the next route and go again to male it feel like a large update.

Pretty surprised by the routes that made it without lydia scenes from the basement. I'm pretty sure i ddin't end up there with Jenna (or whatever the ex is called), unless i have missed something. That said it's been a long time since I played it so maybe you did.

 

[gears]

I really fail to understand the level of incompetence required to fuck up the update this badly after what is approaching a year. Like how is it not the first thing you check where did I last leave the story?

 

[DirtyHistorian]

Yeah, I used to support this guy on Patreon, but the utter lack of basic project management skills is... baffling. As in, this person should not be managing what is effectively a company.

Don't think they are in too good a place though, so I don't blame them, but I effectively have given up on the game.

 

[phoenixdown']

So I'm just going to warn you guys to temper expectations because as of right now its pretty rough and also very short although I don't think the very short part is going to change with time. Maybe (hopefully) it will but...

It sounds like you played the new release Or not? If so, is the "promised" in-game walkthrough included?

 

[1200]

It sounds like you played the new release Or not? If so, is the "promised" in-game walkthrough included?

No you dont get the previous content. Its like the other betas, closed. it does have 2 choices that have good options marked, but you cant see the guide for updates, because the previous updates arent there

TBH its incredibly short... extremely dissappointing

 

[phoenixdown']

No you dont get the previous content. Its like the other betas, closed. it does have 2 choices that have good options marked, but you cant see the guide for updates, because the previous updates arent there

TBH its incredibly short... extremely dissappointing

Oh... okay. That's even more disappointing than I thought... Thanks for the reply

 

[OverJeuw]

No you dont get the previous content. Its like the other betas, closed. it does have 2 choices that have good options marked, but you cant see the guide for updates, because the previous updates arent there

TBH its incredibly short... extremely dissappointing

Agreed... very disappointing

 

[kevcolqaz]

Well yeah, updating all the routes and having only 1650 renders will make it look small. I would suggest playing all the routes to make the wait worthwhile; it's like having 330 renders for each of the characters. It would make it look small if you only play one route.

 

[SplashCC]

No you dont get the previous content. Its like the other betas, closed. it does have 2 choices that have good options marked, but you cant see the guide for updates, because the previous updates arent there

TBH its incredibly short... extremely dissappointing

It has 1.650 renders and it is short? What did he do? Included animations frames in those?

 

[bookie]

It has 1.650 renders and it is short? What did he do? Included animations frames in those?

there are multiple path so it seem like as wide as ocean but as shallow as a pond

 

[dolfe67]

Yeah, I used to support this guy on Patreon, but the utter lack of basic project management skills is... baffling. As in, this person should not be managing what is effectively a company.

Don't think they are in too good a place though, so I don't blame them, but I effectively have given up on the game.

At least now he has an office with air con and his hands are healed... right?

 

[1200]

It has 1.650 renders and it is short? What did he do? Included animations frames in those?

all the paths share a few scenes at the beginning and the end, and overall is just kinda means nothing happens on each specific path. If you played the Emma Beta for example - thats basically it. thats her content, same for the other BETAS

 

[Dr.TSoni]

all the paths share a few scenes at the beginning and the end, and overall is just kinda means nothing happens on each specific path. If you played the Emma Beta for example - thats basically it. thats her content, same for the other BETAS

Possibility that there is more "material" in the full chapter?

 

[1200]

Possibility that there is more "material" in the full chapter?

DEV claimed its just the lydia paths that getting updated so if you were hoping for anyone else, likely no

 

[bookie]

all the paths share a few scenes at the beginning and the end, and overall is just kinda means nothing happens on each specific path. If you played the Emma Beta for example - thats basically it. thats her content, same for the other BETAS

Damn I want to play this beta now. I am kinda curious.

 

[MauritkCL]

Any heroes around?

 

[OrndorffGhost]

So disappointing how this game appears to have run out of momentum. I was pretty optimistic a few years ago because the writing is decent and with so little emphasis on animations you felt like the developer could handle a bit of branching and still deliver lots of content.

I mean, that really seemed like a worthwhile USP - other games focused on animations or voices etc but here was a developer who could make up for what was missing by banging out a well-written story in a fraction of the time. Seems to have lost his way. There is not close to a year of work here.

 

[today]

There is not close to a year of work here.

To be fair he was (allegedly) injured pretty badly so wasn't able to work for quite a few months.

 

[bobofthebush]

To be fair he was (allegedly) injured pretty badly so wasn't able to work for quite a few months.

From memory, if you believe the Dev, he moved into new premises not long ago (before the last update but i can't remember when) so he moved again after the last update. Think the issue was with both air con but also wifi speed.

As a result after the last update he moved premises and then had a major issue with a hot glue gun that badly burnt both hands and effectively stopped work from the last update through to about December and he only got up to full speed in Jan.

I tend to believe him. His general development rate and updates, including length etc, took a noticeable dip for a number of months and then picked up back to where it was previously. Leads to the idea of a complete hiatus of work, for whatever reason, before he started again. On that basis, in my head, this is 6 month update not a year.

He said in his dev post for April 30th that the total update, whilst only being 1 day so i imagine a lot of similarity, was over 3000 renders, and therefore twice the size of the combined total of 2024.

It seems weird that he'd say that and only produce a final update of 1600 renders long.

Guess we'll wait and see