VN Ren'Py Defending Lydia Collier [v0.17 Beta 1.6] [White Phantom Games]

[katabasi]

we can only hope to still be alive if or when this game will be completed

 

[WeAreChecking]

I'm still completely baffled as to why Steph path goes completely vanilla if you choose not to turn her ugly even though you did BDSM with her before that was ever an option

Brother it's literally called Vanilla Steph path, you know what Vanilla is right? Why are you baffled? You literally choose it, go with bimbo route if you want kinky stuff.
It's like watching WWE and complaining why it being scripted.

 

[Vidal the king of Pervert]

Brother it's literally called Vanilla Steph path, you know what Vanilla is right? Why are you baffled? You literally choose it, go with bimbo route if you want kinky stuff.
It's like watching WWE and complaining why it being scripted.

I could be wrong but the only reason I chose bimbo Stephanie is because if you do you get a chance to have a baby and a family

I find it kind of weird that only the bimbo gives you the option to have a baby

I hope the developers not trying to say people who choose to be Housewives are bimbos

 

[dolfe67]

Isn't the game almost near the end anyway?

Correct me if i'm wrong but I think it was always planned to end in a couple of in-game days from where it is currently.

It's been a couple years that the game is nearing the end... But yeah allegedly

 

[d2dacameron]

It's been a couple years that the game is nearing the end... But yeah allegedly

I was just confused about all the argument surrounding a rushed ending.

The game was always gonna end in a couple more updates anyway lol.

 

[AL.d]

I was just confused about all the argument surrounding a rushed ending.

The game was always gonna end in a couple more updates anyway lol.

If the game ends in a couple of updates, I can't think of a way to resolve both its main plot and all its subplots adequately. Which would make its ending rushed.

Especially the subplots. The game foreshadows a bunch of things. From further bimbofication for Steph, to navigating banging a whole family behind Ellie's back, to trying to juggle mother and daughter in Vanessa's path. Even Lydia's sister who was supposed to be an important character to the main plot, has barely gotten any screen time. All these need time and gradual development, you can't just slap an ending in a couple updates and call it day.

But it's usually what happens with devs who have overextended and just want to move on.

 

[Maggot's]

Will there be a sharing path with Vanessa?

 

[d2dacameron]

If the game ends in a couple of updates, I can't think of a way to resolve both its main plot and all its subplots adequately. Which would make its ending rushed.

Especially the subplots. The game foreshadows a bunch of things. From further bimbofication for Steph, to navigating banging a whole family behind Ellie's back, to trying to juggle mother and daughter in Vanessa's path. Even Lydia's sister who was supposed to be an important character to the main plot, has barely gotten any screen time. All these need time and gradual development, you can't just slap an ending in a couple updates and call it day.

But it's usually what happens with devs who have overextended and just want to move on.

I just don't know how it can be called rushed now when it was always planned to end very soon. I'll quote the dev here:

"There are two more major days planned, Monday and the final big scenes with the girls, and then Tuesday (the final mission all the teams stuff contributes towards) which will have the epilogues.

Don't know how long they will take, but they will progress the story and game for everybody, not be individual updates like the last few have been."

I mean sure you could claim that the game SHOULD be longer in your opinion but it's not like the dev has suddenly decided to rush an ending.

 

[AL.d]

I just don't know how it can be called rushed when it was always planned to end very soon. I'll quote the dev here:

"There are two more major days planned, Monday and the final big scenes with the girls, and then Tuesday (the final mission all the teams stuff contributes towards) which will have the epilogues.

Don't know how long they will take, but they will progress the story and game for everybody, not be individual updates like the last few have been."

Planning is irrelevant. It's not the dev who gets to decide if his ending is rushed or not. The flow of the narrative decides that. If plots that were moving at a steady pace throughout the game suddenly conclude, it's rushed by default.

It's very possible that a dev has planned a certain number of updates from the start. It's also very possible that a dev fucked up with the flow of the story and can't adequately resolve their plots in a satisfying manner, within that planned number. It happens all the time.

 

[brody990]

Planning is irrelevant. It's not the dev who gets to decide if his ending is rushed or not. The flow of the narrative decides that. If plots that were moving at a steady pace throughout the game suddenly conclude, it's rushed by default.

It's very possible that a dev has planned a certain number of updates from the start. It's also very possible that a dev fucked up with the flow of the story and can't adequately resolve their plots in a satisfying manner, within that planned number. It happens all the time.

The dev has only gone and George RR Martin'd it

 

[Qwert99]

Brother it's literally called Vanilla Steph path, you know what Vanilla is right? Why are you baffled? You literally choose it, go with bimbo route if you want kinky stuff.
It's like watching WWE and complaining why it being scripted.

I'm also baffled that you apparently did not even manage to read my comment in its entirety before asking something that was answered by it

 

[justheretopirate]

Another fucking beta? Where the fuck is the main update? This has been going on for a year now. The update cycle for this game has been complete trash and caused me to cancel my patreon.

 

[iBedoMi]

The literal connundrum for the dev was just exactly what you are wondering about: dev could not tie up loose ends from last update and needs some weeks to code the new update into the larger game.
” There are scenes in my head I'd put in the game a year ago, but I haven't actually, and I've made the update based on those scenes being there, and now as I rush to put everything together for the date I've set I've found that there are half a dozen scenes I've built on from that do not exist. ”

...exactly THIS is happening to a developer who decides to sell his unfinished product out for so called patreons ... and let random strangers decide about anything game related in a *Poll*... idk but in my opinion its always a sign the dev hasnt really a clue what his game wants to be or not so he lets strangers who pay him monthly donations decide about this route that route than the poll is going one way and the dev couldnt relate to his own game anymore and starts slipping over his words here n there and final result we see now ... its a shame this game was promising but now i will ignore it completely since the dev fucked it up ....he can take weeks or months he woldnt be able to get it back on track... many red flags already and i guess sooner or later this whole project will get abandoned ...remember my words guys ;-


..i know it sounds mean/rude but for what sugarcoating the words... it is what it is and if im totally wrong and he surprised me with the opposite of what im assume than i gladly will give him a proper apology...;-)

 

[char_2.0]

another mini update?

no, God please, no...noooooooo.

 

[Yabba]

Will there be a sharing path with Vanessa?

Dude Vanessa has a wild path where she wants to bring females into your bedroom to fuck as a couple, and there a path to have her have threesomes and all sorts, you just have to totally focus on her first no random hookups no looking at other women till the wedding.

 

[BogoHobo]

Isn't the game almost near the end anyway?

Correct me if i'm wrong but I think it was always planned to end in a couple of in-game days from where it is currently.

Does that mean that all the other LIs paths are also going to be closed in a couple of game days? Or just the Lydia path as that is all that has been being updated lately...

 

[Kateterpeter]

Which character can you turn bimbo? And can I have her and Ellie as an office side piece?

 

[kevcolqaz]

Which character can you turn bimbo?

Steph's path is the only path where you can do full bimbo, Lydia is also given a future path to bimbo.

 

[Dessolos]

Steph's path is the only path where you can do full bimbo, Lydia is also given a future path to bimbo.

Been awhile since I played but doesn't Lydia go Bimbo no matter what it's the blonde that works with the MC in his office the one that might have a Bimbo Path? tho I personally don't see it happening since it feels like it's near the end of the game

 

[kevcolqaz]

Been awhile since I played but doesn't Lydia go Bimbo no matter what it's the blonde that works with the MC in his office the one that might have a Bimbo Path? tho I personally don't see it happening since it feels like it's near the end of the game

Bimbo is like full body modification to look like sex doll barbie, Steph does full body modification, and Lydia wants to get it if the MC wants it, Ellie doesn't do plastic surgery but goes into a corruption route and there was no dialogue to show that any other characters want to get plastic surgery.