HTML Degrees of Lewdity [v0.5.6.8] [Vrelnir]

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Read the last few post to confirm whether or not the cloudflare block was either dol mods being down or if it was an IP based block. Fucking government. Every since my wanker gov passed the OSA, everything has gone to shit and now its spreading everywhere else. Schizo theory: OSA was the groundwork to justify other countries introducing bullshit intrusive age verification shit to "protect kids" but are really doing it for censorship and control. Thank fuck this site isn't blocked yet. OFCOM are already looking into banning vpns because everyone is using them to get around it. On top of fear mongering about them being bad.

TLDR: my country government (UK) are a bunch of stupid wankers.

Amen brother, everything your gov does, my gov does but worse
make sure to download the local files, those should still be available

 

[tester72]

"Crude" being your choice of description says plenty about the depth you look at things with.

I mean is it not true? Look at the average prompt and in the negatives you will see variants to pixelation, pixelated and other things that are necesseary in proper pixel art.
By the definitions presented in a model it is "crude".

 

[tester72]

AI is absolutely a regression and not progress. It is simply a way for companies and corporations to replace actual skilled people with a cheaper alternative to produce a lower quality end product for a fraction of the cost. There are places for AI and that is in doing analysis and as a tool for an actual artist doing actual art. Using machine learning assistance to do simple things like post processing or noise reduction or anything like that is a legitimate use case so long as it is a TOOL used by an artist and not a replacement for the artist. It should be used to help create art and not replacing how art is done entirely.

It is called slop because that is exactly what it is. It is concepts fed to a machine and ground up into a slurry of "content" then shit out by a machine with no concept of what looks good or why something is good. AI as we know it will NEVER understand intent or basic shit like desire or empathy. All it can do is google for something and throw everything it finds into a blender that it unceremoniously dumps on the floor for those with no taste to lap up.

Old outdated video but this explains it very well.

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The same could be said about any other artform that got easier due to technological improvement. Infact i remember reading a quite nice post some years ago where a the writer compiled how the people who used digital cameras met scorn from the "real photographers" for practically all the same reason people complain about AI.

Also lets be real, slop exists without AI. Unreal slop? Unity slop? Flash slop? They are all cheaply made low effort assetflip trash that are made with the same idea and you dont see people vehemently protesting them.
Art slop? Someone posts the same quality a 2nd grader "draws"? People will fuckin defend it because it has "effort and soul" when the reality is that its just slop that can easily beaten by AI because the quality and effort is lower grade then what it takes to make a decent looking picture in AI.

 

[MRN64]

Guy thinks that low effort asset swaps on steam and people using different tools that must be 100% controlled by the user are somehow analogs to AI. Those are some bottom of the barrel arguments right there.

Quite frankly im not interested in this absolutely banal and brainless "debate" on if AI is good. Its not. No matter how you try to rationalize how its a great "tool" used by people to make things the absolute core issue that you are missing is that the ways you are trying to say it is a good "tool" are ways that a "tool" could never actually be used. If i have a shovel and want to dig a hole i have to personally use that shovel to move earth. Every scoop and every action is done with a purpose and a meaning meant to do the job at hand without destroying the yard which all ends up with a very deliberate and thought out end product that is an actual reflection of who i am as a person and my work ethic. The act of doing the digging makes me a laborer. Now if i get a shovel and get a guy named AI do do my shoveling for me who does not give a FUCK about what he is doing and has no knowledge of what he is doing and no actual common sense you wont end up with a good end result. You will show up after the job is done and find a hole that is the wrong depth where the septic tank has been dug up and the underground electrical wiring to the garage is cut. It also means you didnt put ANY effort into the end product so no matter how much you claim to be a laborer you are not. Then you will gleefully post the results to twitter about how much of a great laborer you are for giving the directions to something else to do it all for you. It is not a "tool" it is a way to replace laborers with a shittier cheaper version. Remember an actual tool is something used by PEOPLE to do something and not something that does something for you.

Generative AI is not a tool. It is not a "technological improvement." It is a cheap and disgusting way to remove actual artists and laborers from society so they dont have to get paid. It is not like a digital camera because the argument against digital was not that it was somehow doing all of the work for the photographer but that the early digital cameras were absolute SHIT and failed at the basic things professionals were looking for cameras to do. They didnt and still dont do the work photographers do and most professional photographers will LOSE THEIR GODDAMN MINDS if you automate everything inside of a camera because they NEED to have control over focus and framing and exposure lengths because that is EXTREMELY important to how an image comes out. You clearly have no knowledge of photography if you do not understand this but all things considered it should not surprise anyone that an AI tech bro has no grasp of what he is discussing.

If the only way you can justify it as being legitimate is comparing it to literal asset flip scams or art from someone that is still figuring what they are doing out then that is saying something about how valid it is. "Look this AI draws better than these literal thieves and a 6 year old! It is so valuable and useful!" No it isnt and the fact that argument is the best one you have actually brought up says everything. So really just stop trying to discuss this here. Honestly its surprising that the posts you have made have not already been purged like many in the thread already.

 

[Titus Thau-Yuros]

Hope we get another official pregnancy in the next updates. Sydney and Whitney would be good matches I think.