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sparrow_rose

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My first few? I still have the same chartacer that I had in the beginning. To the point of the post, the characters in Degrees of Lewdity are all very simple two-dimensional archetypes, but they fulfill a function within the narrative of the world. They are part of a living story. The same cannot be said for the complete non-charcaters that populate Free Cities. There is no Robyn to feel obligated to in Free Cities. There is no Kylar who requires that you endure certain hardships in order to reap useful benefits. There is no Black Wolf, who allows you to briefly play at being wild and free even though you will always be tethered to the reality of the game's world. There are no characters at all in Free Cities and no narrative that you are allowed to integrate your played character into. The world follows no coherent logic and makes no demands of the player. You can't craft a story in Free Cities the way that you can craft one in Degrees of Lewdity. Free Cities is just a vapid power fantasy where only one character (you) matters, and that is something that I find to be too disaffecting to ever feel dark. It doesn't help that the devs wasted years making giant robots and space lazors instead of world-building.
Hmm. I play Pregmod (cause once you do there's no way you go back to regular Free Cities), and I agree it's got some issues. You see, it's not that I don't want to be invested in the world, the game just doesn't really let you. It has the bones to do so, I mean, world's collapsing. Shouldn't I be invested in making things better? But it does nothing to really incentivize that. You can focus blindly on your own whims, for the most part.
Also, something that's been bothering me for ages is that there's only one free character, yourself. In other words, your own family are always slaves. This has always bugged me. I imagine having other free people in my household, that I can't just mistreat like the slaves/indentures because if I do they'd be free to leave. I can see my partner insisting on a divorce, and I actually have to work for their affections to get married in the first place. Bring a little of that "oh these are actually people" feeling to the game.
Also, it would be nice if the school acted more like a school. I get it's there to help with slave stuff, but if it could also act as an actual school, that would be nice. You know, once my ideally free children are old enough to leave the nursery, I can send them to the homeschool where they'll recieve a standard nonslave education until an age of my choosing. In this way the intelligence and education stuff already in the game actually serves more function.
And it would be nice if there were nonsexual jobs for these free people, but I don't think you need to create a bunch of separate categories for it. It could just be called working job or similar, and the summary could say they worked at the job the game already has assigned to them. You know, the one where the slaves will say they used to be a nurse, officer, teacher, etc. A free person would currently be that, and that's what they're doing in the summary. "So and so worked as a nurse today, they made X, and had a mostly nice day. Though, one incident stands out. They were sexually harrassed by a coworker."
Now that I think of it, you could also use that for children instead of the homeschool. When they get old enough, send them to school without making them leave your household. Cause that's how that normally works, geez.
Finally, remove all the gendered language. I'm sick and tired of hearing my son referred to as she or my daughter. Just use they/them/their and family can be your parent/sibling/child/cousin/unty/sibkid. Had to look the last two up, didn't know if there were gender neutral terms for aunt/uncle and niece/nephew.
 

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Hmm. I play Pregmod (cause once you do there's no way you go back to regular Free Cities), and I agree it's got some issues. You see, it's not that I don't want to be invested in the world, the game just doesn't really let you. It has the bones to do so, I mean, world's collapsing. Shouldn't I be invested in making things better? But it does nothing to really incentivize that. You can focus blindly on your own whims, for the most part.
Also, something that's been bothering me for ages is that there's only one free character, yourself. In other words, your own family are always slaves. This has always bugged me. I imagine having other free people in my household, that I can't just mistreat like the slaves/indentures because if I do they'd be free to leave. I can see my partner insisting on a divorce, and I actually have to work for their affections to get married in the first place. Bring a little of that "oh these are actually people" feeling to the game.
Also, it would be nice if the school acted more like a school. I get it's there to help with slave stuff, but if it could also act as an actual school, that would be nice. You know, once my ideally free children are old enough to leave the nursery, I can send them to the homeschool where they'll recieve a standard nonslave education until an age of my choosing. In this way the intelligence and education stuff already in the game actually serves more function.
And it would be nice if there were nonsexual jobs for these free people, but I don't think you need to create a bunch of separate categories for it. It could just be called working job or similar, and the summary could say they worked at the job the game already has assigned to them. You know, the one where the slaves will say they used to be a nurse, officer, teacher, etc. A free person would currently be that, and that's what they're doing in the summary. "So and so worked as a nurse today, they made X, and had a mostly nice day. Though, one incident stands out. They were sexually harrassed by a coworker."
Now that I think of it, you could also use that for children instead of the homeschool. When they get old enough, send them to school without making them leave your household. Cause that's how that normally works, geez.
Finally, remove all the gendered language. I'm sick and tired of hearing my son referred to as she or my daughter. Just use they/them/their and family can be your parent/sibling/child/cousin/unty/sibkid. Had to look the last two up, didn't know if there were gender neutral terms for aunt/uncle and niece/nephew.
When a preg mod got created first before the vanilla one. :KEK:
 
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Also, something that's been bothering me for ages is that there's only one free character, yourself. In other words, your own family are always slaves. This has always bugged me. I imagine having other free people in my household, that I can't just mistreat like the slaves/indentures because if I do they'd be free to leave. I can see my partner insisting on a divorce, and I actually have to work for their affections to get married in the first place. Bring a little of that "oh these are actually people" feeling to the game.
It would make perfect sense to have a royal family. One guy is not going to rule a city full of slaves by himself; he would need family and allies and a coterie of loyal servants no matter how much hand-wavy sci-fi surveilance tech he has. That would be a great place for devs to add actual characters with their own interests into the game. There could be a queen, because, despite the devs' intention to create AnCapistan, the PC is very clearly a king. The queen could be the daughter of another city's king, and your marriage guarantees a practical economic and military alliance that is vital to your survival. That would give her a certain degree of power and require that you keep her happy by way of sponsoring certain difficult or expensive projects that she favors. You would also need a prince who is first in the line of succession. He constantly wishes to prove himself by embarking upon dangerous adventures, which means that he needs to be properly trained before he gets himself killed and leaves the PC as a prime target for assassination attempts. Maybe you could have a bastard child from before your marriage with conflicted loyalties who may not be as important as your legitimate son but who would be of incredible value to your enemies should he ever fall into their hands. Naturally, you would need a delicate, silver spoon-fed princess who is coveted by the commander of your mercenary army even if the princess herself prefers the captain of your slave forces. The devs could easily build proper characters on top of these basic archetypes, and they would not only serve to make some sense of the utterly nonsensical Free Cities world but they would give us people within the narrative to care about. Without anyone to care about, playing Free Cities just feels lonely.

Contrast that with Degrees of Lewdity, where you constantly have to employ advanced scheduling to help or please all of the characters whom you care about. Let's see, I have a date with Avery at eight, so i need to get done working Robin's lemonade stand before six so that I can meet Kylar at the arcade to get a canister of pepper spray (because Bailey is going to attack me the day after tomorrow) and play just enough games that I have time to catch the bus while reducing some of that jealousy that popped up when I kissed Syndey in the cafeteria yesterday... and oh no! I didn't meet Nikki at the photography studio today, which means that I will need to free three hours on Sunday's schedule... but it has been so long since I have hunted with the Black Wolf...
 

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Can your orphan loose a virginity to sextoys?
I know about the fucking machine at the docks and brothel, but what about dildos that npcs now use during encounters?
 

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Nope, that's a funny thing.
Anyone can use a dragon dildo on you and you'd still remain a virgin. :KEK:
tbf DoL virginity is more so of by rules rather than physical, and the physical aspects are just to signify it
otherwise, why wouldn't getting an oral count as losing penile virginity
 
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Anyone got a save with all feats for 3.8.6 that they're willing to post? I can only get the easy(ish) ones (Loft, Leighton's naughty pictures of students, cream buns, Stockholm stuff (black wolf, Eden, and great hawk), and 1 or 2 others that I can't remember...
 
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Speaking of saves, I edited a save to include every single feat, even from all the mods in dolmods.net as of 23 April 2022.

Instructions:
Load the game's page.
Import the save file.
Go to Feats and look at all the filters. [ IMPORTANT ]
Save the game normally.
Go to Options and press Restart Game.

For some mods when you import the save, the player's picture may be broken. If you followed the instructions, it should be fixed on a new game.

Note:
The Degrees of Apocalyptia mod doesn't allow you import a different save. To use the all feats save go to dolmods.net, load any mod or the vanilla, import the save and look at the feats, then you can switch to the Apocalyptia mod and it should have all feats unlocked. I don't know why looking at the feats is what triggers them to actually unlock, and not simply importing the save but that's just how it is.

This is an All Feats Unlocked save including the mods from dolmods.net, up until v0.3.8.6 on 23 April 2020
 

Raf-Raf

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Speaking of saves, I edited a save to include every single feat, even from all the mods in dolmods.net as of 23 April 2022.

Instructions:
Load the game's page.
Import the save file.
Go to Feats and look at all the filters. [ IMPORTANT ]
Save the game normally.
Go to Options and press Restart Game.

For some mods when you import the save, the player's picture may be broken. If you followed the instructions, it should be fixed on a new game.

Note:
The Degrees of Apocalyptia mod doesn't allow you import a different save. To use the all feats save go to dolmods.net, load any mod or the vanilla, import the save and look at the feats, then you can switch to the Apocalyptia mod and it should have all feats unlocked. I don't know why looking at the feats is what triggers them to actually unlock, and not simply importing the save but that's just how it is.

This is an All Feats Unlocked save including the mods from dolmods.net, up until v0.3.8.6 on 23 April 2020
What does the mod do?
 

Raf-Raf

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A'ight, might try this when I get bored of vanilla and explore some mods but from what descriptions I see most of 'em are kinda meh aside from that apocalyptia thing.

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Even though I've never watched Jojo,the bizarre adventure mod seemed.... interesting, while I was editing the save file and some feats were...... interesting.
 
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