Reefus

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Actually I'm not sure if it's memory leak anymore, as restarting the game should be able to fix it if that's the cause. The effect remained when I reload my mid-raid save so I can only assume that whatever is causing the performance issue is being saved into the savefile and only getting deleted when the raid ends. Memory leak on the other hand is released by the system after the game is closed.
Yeah I'm not sure how it works on your end, but for me it is a direct consequence of using the Escape menu. Refraining from that I keep all my fps. Came back from a long mission and everything is still fine and dandy.

Assuming it works the same on your end, just don't pause. Alt-tabbing is fine also as long as you don't use the pause menu.
 

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You better get used to that for a while. The dev said he isn't updating NSFW content until he releases the game on steam. We're talking about a year from now maybe, if not a little longer.
Pretty sure every dev gave that kind of statement marks that they are giving up and want to just put it on shelf somewhere, cash grab one wave of poor sod and dissappear. Had seen that pattern before.
 
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Yeah, after some more thorough testing, what actually happens is the game drops half of its frames upon entering the Escape menu. I had thought it was due to play length, but I guess that just coincided with my pausing intervals.

I'm going to test this again to see how long it retains initial performance without using the pause menu.



Yeah, rape is likely a more accurate description. I just don't like how that mechanic effectively nullifies most of the challenge of surviving as it is essentially guaranteed to save your life in an otherwise lethal situation.

Just thinking if there are more elegant solutions for that. My preference would be to have rape interaction on a defeat state only, governed by health threshold. Say at <5% HP you are vulnerable, with an independent setting for bad outcomes that would be linked with difficulty rating. Permadeath possibly defaulting to 25% mortality rate upon capture.

The game already has a pretty solid foundation for hardcore survival. But at the moment, surviving combat itself feels kind of weightless. Looking at Permadeath as a potentially more exciting experience now seems rather pointless as I really can't see myself dying.
It is definitely possible to die in this game. I can't tell you how many times I've died and had to restart saves/backups. It's just likelier to get grabbed than killed in most situations.
 

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Does anyone know what the deal is with Foregrips?

Some weapons won't accept them and I have no idea why. The most intuitive reasoning would be barrel length, but apparently that's not it either. The only other thing I can think of is that weapons come with a predefined base that doesn't show in customization.

I can only assume in this case that weapons that do accept foregrips were spawned as a SMG base configuration. I guess I will test this next time I find a Pistol/SGM. So far I have only one weapon that will accept a foregrip.

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Reefus

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Okay never mind that, I'm just an idiot. It's the Handguard size that dictates whether a foregrip can be used.
 
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Pretty sure every dev gave that kind of statement marks that they are giving up and want to just put it on shelf somewhere, cash grab one wave of poor sod and dissappear. Had seen that pattern before.
Yep, that's my thought as weel. Recent udpates were very lacking, and It seems that he want's to milk the project for as long as he can and then abadon it. Shame...
 

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You better get used to that for a while. The dev said he isn't updating NSFW content until he releases the game on steam. We're talking about a year from now maybe, if not a little longer.
Steam is not very keen on rapey content. Its why Wild Life and other games got banned from there.

So if DZ gets kicked off Steam, is that the end of the game, or just the start of porn-focused content?
 

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Steam is not very keen on rapey content. Its why Wild Life and other games got banned from there.

So if DZ gets kicked off Steam, is that the end of the game, or just the start of porn-focused content?
Devo I think is going to have a bit of a wake up. Either Steam is going to nuke the project, which I think is more likely once they get wind of the subscription service that is handled off Steam for TOS violating content or the negative review bombs for the slow and limited adult content you have to subscribe for to access will really make a bad impact. I'm not sure if its the language barrier or he doesn't care, but he doesn't seem to want to see reason on this.
 

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He'll probably just launch the SFW version on steam for "marketing". I remember reading Dev wanted the game to be fully playable without NSFW elements...though it'll just be a generic shooter then o_O
 

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He'll probably just launch the SFW version on steam for "marketing". I remember reading Dev wanted the game to be fully playable without NSFW elements...though it'll just be a generic shooter then o_O
I've been watching his discord for the past week or two looking for an update in the announcement page and there hasn't been anything outside of the new map updates in the SFW channels. I haven't seen a whole lot about the steam sfw version. It mostly seems like he's been working on a new intro map to finally change the hideout system or something. He was at a GDC conference in march so that could also add a week or two to the release date resulting in early to mid June.

Either way, I'm still waiting for the quadruped creature.
 

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Devo I think is going to have a bit of a wake up. Either Steam is going to nuke the project, which I think is more likely once they get wind of the subscription service that is handled off Steam for TOS violating content or the negative review bombs for the slow and limited adult content you have to subscribe for to access will really make a bad impact. I'm not sure if its the language barrier or he doesn't care, but he doesn't seem to want to see reason on this.
Maybe that's exactly the point. He could then stand up and say, "Well, I tried, but evil Steam nuked my project..." Work on DZ stops, he keeps milking Patreon for as long as he can, and the game gets abandoned. The developer's hands are clean, and he can move on to other projects.


DZ now looks like a big tech demo for another game, so I think it's likely that, in his mind, the project is already scrapped — and now he's just trying to milk it for as long as possible.


Of course, there's also the possibility that he's genuinely naive enough to believe this project would get the green light on Steam. But if that's the case, I'm even more amazed at how he got this far with such low competence.

I've been watching his discord for the past week or two looking for an update in the announcement page and there hasn't been anything outside of the new map updates in the SFW channels. I haven't seen a whole lot about the steam sfw version. It mostly seems like he's been working on a new intro map to finally change the hideout system or something. He was at a GDC conference in march so that could also add a week or two to the release date resulting in early to mid June.

Either way, I'm still waiting for the quadruped creature.
So this is no longer a joke that past months went into new empty map and DRM :ROFLMAO:
 

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Devo I think is going to have a bit of a wake up. Either Steam is going to nuke the project, which I think is more likely once they get wind of the subscription service that is handled off Steam for TOS violating content or the negative review bombs for the slow and limited adult content you have to subscribe for to access will really make a bad impact. I'm not sure if its the language barrier or he doesn't care, but he doesn't seem to want to see reason on this.
Yeah. There have been a lot of promising projects here on F95, that crashed and burned when the game either got kicked off Steam or their pre-alpha prototype got review bombed into Mostly Negative, and the prospects of making money off it, became nonexistent.

Steam likes early access beta titles that intend to be completed in 1-2 years. Beyond that, even Steam gets tired of people complaining to them that the game is abandoned or in development hell. This one, even if it got on Steam, would still be 3+ years away from completion, in terms of gameplay, not mentioning the sexual content.

Now, Itch.io is way more lenient with gameplay concepts, like Tentacle rape. Can find a ton of tentacle themed games on Itch, that you won't find on Steam. So, maybe Devo should get it on Itch, instead of Steam.

"I'm not sure if its the language barrier or he doesn't care, but he doesn't seem to want to see reason on this." I can try talking to them; tell them DKOC wants to talk in PM (and give any feedback on Release 22).
 
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He'll probably just launch the SFW version on steam for "marketing". I remember reading Dev wanted the game to be fully playable without NSFW elements...though it'll just be a generic shooter then o_O
The SFW version is filled with tons of grievances most FPS players would get irritated over. Like Aimbot AIs that can snipe you from 150 meters away and you can't hit the broad side of a barn full auto within 10 meters. The only reason people tolerate that is because of sexy female heroine and sexy time stuff thrown in as well. Strip that out, and there is just so many other better shooters out there. The only way it works, is as a hybrid of the two.

After all, people could play the SFW of Delta Zone here on F95 for years. People cracked it to get the cheats and the sexy stuff. People weren't playing it without the sexy stuff (and possibly the cheats).
 

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I've been watching his discord for the past week or two looking for an update in the announcement page and there hasn't been anything outside of the new map updates in the SFW channels. I haven't seen a whole lot about the steam sfw version. It mostly seems like he's been working on a new intro map to finally change the hideout system or something. He was at a GDC conference in march so that could also add a week or two to the release date resulting in early to mid June.

Either way, I'm still waiting for the quadruped creature.
I don't recall them saying they wanted a SFW version specifically for Steam. The only thing I know on the topic, is a SFW mode for streamers, so they could play it on Twitch. Though, again, if he wanted people to play it on stream, they should allow the NSFW and focus on Kick (an alternative streaming service) or OnlyFans (yeah they now have a streaming service like Twitch, but with full nudity if desired).
 
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