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Blaidd

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I can't imagine why discovering he's making games would upset his husband.
I don't want to speculate about this particular case. But speaking in general, one usually doesn't want to discover something important about a spouse through a third party.
Also creating erotic content still comes with a stigma in large parts of the populace. Artists and creators often need pen and screen names to avoid negative backlash in their private and professional lives (assuming they or family members still hold other jobs).

This is why it is paramount to respect and honor the privacy of others.


As for Unruly and Demitransference: I am also saddened that the project is abandoned. The writing was a true highlight and I was curious if there would be a redemption arc for some of the bullies. I can only hope that Unruly will find a different outlet for his creativity - perhaps even returning to the scene under a new identity unbenownst to us once the dust has settled.
 

DLgamer

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I don't want to speculate about this particular case. But speaking in general, one usually doesn't want to discover something important about a spouse through a third party.
Also creating erotic content still comes with a stigma in large parts of the populace. Artists and creators often need pen and screen names to avoid negative backlash in their private and professional lives (assuming they or family members still hold other jobs).

This is why it is paramount to respect and honor the privacy of others.

As for Unruly and Demitransference: I am also saddened that the project is abandoned. The writing was a true highlight and I was curious if there would be a redemption arc for some of the bullies. I can only hope that Unruly will find a different outlet for his creativity - perhaps even returning to the scene under a new identity unbenownst to us once the dust has settled.
Blaidd made many good points. I speculate that a spouse might be very upset to see their spouse receive a presumably erotic or personal gift from a completely unknown person that reveals a "hidden online life." That raises themes of betrayal and deception that seem to me, a happily married person, as far more upsetting especially if they were exclusively monogamous than learning he was making porn. But, cultural issues certainly exist around erotica and porn, so maybe that was the problem.

Ultimately, the issue is that someone intentionally violated Unruly's privacy in multiple ways and sent something without consideration of the impact on Unruly's life. What if Unruly was completely closeted and living in a very homophobic household? He could have been killed. I assume the gift giver meant well, but boundaries exist for a reason. Respect them.
 

arls120

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I would have liked him to mention the name of the one who sent him a gift to send him one too :D .......... It is something interesting like this game with a good future and not lacking too much for its next update it dies because someone decided to commit the stupidity of violating the privacy of the other.
 

WolfMoon7

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In my personal opinion I am perfectly agreeable with the idea that if you sign or agree to the privacy policies then by our accounts you should understand that people are on places like this places that have those policies because they want to feel safe and accepted without having to reveal exactly who they are. As such I believe that whoever was stupid enough to send someone to someone's personal address after searching through to find the private information and send it to his home of all places is completely and utterly wrong and disgusting and as such I personally believe that they will get there just lose I only hate that it hurts someone who simply was doing this because they actually wanted to put something out there that people could actually connect with in any way shape or form and just have fun with it. Also another thing that needs to be looked at is the old turn of phrase the road to hell is paved with good intentions meaning that even the best intentions can result in the worst of events occurring. Good doesn't mean right good is only a possibility of right not a guarantee.
 
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Deadass06k

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hey um...does anyone know what happened to the unruly dogboy, the dev of demitransference he's deleted from everywhere
 
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I hate to be the "bad gay" but I guess I have to. For whatever it is worth, I'm not upset the game is abandoned, I don't care. I just don't understand why everyone here is excusing the husband's behavior.

-Doxxing is a SHAMEFUL CRIME and whoever did it is a criminal, a cunt and an asshole. It should never be done. The person who did it probably reads this thread: Take your IRL fantasies elsewhere you fucking disgusting creep.

-Having a hissy fit over discovering your SO has been the victim of a crime is not OK. Having a hissy fit AS AN ADULT IS NOT OK. Get therapy because if you're "storming out the house" over ANYTHING instead of having a calm conversation, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

-People have pasts and it's beyond absurd that you guys seem to believe married people know or should know EVERYTHING about each other.

-It seems clear that the husband demanded the dev not only abandon his game but delete his entire online presence. That is AWFUL, abusive and manipulative.

-People in this thread are assuming their marriage was perfect. If it was perfect, the husband would have laughed it off and be curious about his SO's hidden hobby AND he would have asked HIMSELF why it is that the dev kept it a secret AND WORK ON HIMSELF.

Just my 2 cents.
 

DLgamer

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I hate to be the "bad gay" but I guess I have to. For whatever it is worth, I'm not upset the game is abandoned, I don't care. I just don't understand why everyone here is excusing the husband's behavior.

-Doxxing is a SHAMEFUL CRIME and whoever did it is a criminal, a cunt and an asshole. It should never be done. The person who did it probably reads this thread: Take your IRL fantasies elsewhere you fucking disgusting creep.

-Having a hissy fit over discovering your SO has been the victim of a crime is not OK. Having a hissy fit AS AN ADULT IS NOT OK. Get therapy because if you're "storming out the house" over ANYTHING instead of having a calm conversation, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

-People have pasts and it's beyond absurd that you guys seem to believe married people know or should know EVERYTHING about each other.

-It seems clear that the husband demanded the dev not only abandon his game but delete his entire online presence. That is AWFUL, abusive and manipulative.

-People in this thread are assuming their marriage was perfect. If it was perfect, the husband would have laughed it off and be curious about his SO's hidden hobby AND he would have asked HIMSELF why it is that the dev kept it a secret AND WORK ON HIMSELF.

Just my 2 cents.
I can't speak for anyone in this thread except myself. I do not believe I excused the husband's behavior nor did I jump to conclusions about him, their relationship, or what they should know about each other. I shared some speculation based on what I read. I know nothing about their relationship history so I can't draw conclusions about their actions beyond saying the person who violated Unruly's privacy and personal life is an ahole and potentially a criminal. Does it seem like the husband's reaction was intense? Absolutely. Was it abusive and manipulative? Maybe. Context matters. We don't know anything about their personal lives and frankly it's none of our business. I just hope they are both okay.

I am bummed Demitransference will presumably never be finished. It was a good game with an interesting story.
 
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Blaidd

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I hate to be the "bad gay" but I guess I have to. For whatever it is worth, I'm not upset the game is abandoned, I don't care. I just don't understand why everyone here is excusing the husband's behavior.
I don't think you're necessarily a bad guy, much less a "bad gay", but I think you have a bad reading of what many here are trying to say. I think few here attempt to excuse the behavior described. Instead, they express that they have an idea of how and why this reaction came about.

-Doxxing is a SHAMEFUL CRIME (...)
Agreed.

-Having a hissy fit over discovering your SO has been the victim of a crime is not OK. Having a hissy fit AS AN ADULT IS NOT OK. (...)
We have no way of knowing what provoked the reaction. And while 'having a hissy fit' might not be a very mature reaction in your eyes, it also is a rather human one. We are all human and thus prone to making mistakes and being less than perfect in some occasions. Also different people deal differently with stress - some indeed might need an initial time-out to be by themselves and process the situation.

-People have pasts and it's beyond absurd that you guys seem to believe married people know or should know EVERYTHING about each other.
I don't think it is a general consensus that married people should know 'everything' about each other. What I said prior is that if - for whatever reason - those things need to be adressed, it would be best for a spouse to learn them from their partner rather than a third party.

-It seems clear that the husband demanded the dev not only abandon his game but delete his entire online presence. (...)
Pure speculation. The Dev himself stated his wish to focus on his family life over continuing his work here, pointing out that both were at odds with each other. I do not blame him for valuing his family life over his game.

-People in this thread are assuming their marriage was perfect. (...)
I do not agree that people in general had that assumption. But ultimately it doesn't matter. Whether a relationship is picture perfect or a train wreck - I respect that it is a relationship somebody deeply cares for.


I think at the end of the day, this teaches us once more to respect the privacy and private lives of others. And to maybe not assume to much beyond what is actually being said and written, since at the end of the day we are not privy to all the information. So from here on out only a discussion of the game's contents really makes any sense. Who knows, perhaps at some point someone will create something new inspired by this game?
 
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If you think I am speculating towards the negative, you are explicitly speculating towards the positive. You also know nothing of their relationship. This person could be in an abusive situation of some sort and need help and here you are wringing your hands about how you respect this or that, great for you but could you stop virtue signaling? All you have to go on is 1 message. Thank you, I'm moving on.
 

xxx_chris2018

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If you think I am speculating towards the negative, you are explicitly speculating towards the positive. You also know nothing of their relationship. This person could be in an abusive situation of some sort and need help and here you are wringing your hands about how you respect this or that, great for you but could you stop virtue signaling? All you have to go on is 1 message. Thank you, I'm moving on.
I knew Unruly fairly well, better than many. We had many conversations with each other about our personal lives. He never gave me any indications that his partner was abusive. He always described their relationship in a positive light, as very loving and committed. I didn't read the back and forth above, so I'm not engaging in that. I just wanted to add that it's unlikely that the relationship was abusive.
 
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aizzen

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I just downloaded the game. It looks like the project has been discontinued, but would I still be able to play it? None of the pictures are displaying for me
 

GS523523

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-People have pasts and it's beyond absurd that you guys seem to believe married people know or should know EVERYTHING about each other.
There's a huge difference between having a past secret you're afraid of sharing and actively leading an online double life. Marriage requires trust; if the trust is gone the man is justified in breaking it up.

Especially a double life as a porn writer. I'm typing as someone who has been off of porn for over a year, and now the thought of my hypothetical husband fantasizing about other men continuously would be incredibly hurtful, to the point I'd maybe even consider it cheating.

Nothing against Unruly, he was making a great game and he was very nice, as everyone else pointed out. But IMO he's in the wrong here. Hope everything worked out for the best.
 
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