ptahn

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I will try to clarify from my bad English that I constantly use a translator.
1- Claire's scene ---> I show the first part so that the user knows that the teacher is blackmailing her and she accepts because it is convenient for her. (2nd part is avoidable).

2- The second time Claire goes to see the director: ----> The first part I show you because I want to show the user that the MC has caught them. Why? because it's a gap in the story where from then on paths like blackmail are opened (2part is avoidable that by the way I made a vote in patreon and the patrons pied it).
I should have put a warty old woman to see if she is also a Li....

3- You won't see any scene where another character fucks another character.... (The first scene of the director looks like he fucks her but I cut it. So maybe he fucked her or he kicked her and left. Your imagination decides). If you will see any attempt or any touching.... Why? because of what I said before, the idea is to turn it around with trickery, revenge, manipulation or some surprise? But there will never be penetration and if there is, which I doubt, there will be a label if you want to avoid it (that's why I ask when it becomes NTR? caressing the belly is NTR? caressing the ass is NTR? looking with the eyes is NTR?...).

If I don't show that it's impossible to create a story, it's that clear.
I am constantly reading very nasty comments. NTR death, to the stake!!! you fucked up your game! Dreams fuck up your game... I give you one star less because there is no discord.
The reality is that the MC will take all the girls one way or another....
But as I said the game consumes me an impressive amount of time and the comments in 90% are toxic and dent my morale.
I was warned about the NTR but I didn't know to this extreme level.
(Which for me is not NTR because the MC barely knows Claire but for you guys it is because every girl you see is a li.... )
For you guys touching a boob is NTR? at what point does it become NTR? It is not clear to me. I try to give life to the story but if the MC is the only man in the game then I can't develop much of a story...

4- I've been animating practically the whole game and making renders for each conversation. Other games don't do that even as a joke. I have seen that it has not been valued so I discard that from now on.

5- I would have preferred, hey Dev, add another block to not see Claire at all.... But no, just shit after shit... so you only win that I don't want to do the game.

6- . We believe that we have made impressive and very worked sex scenes that we haven't heard anything... The first scene of Claire has hundreds of renders and the second scene almost the same. We play with the clothes with the difficulty that it takes, in other games magically disappears and an endless number of other things ...
I understand that those scenes are not important because it is not the MC, but it was a demonstration to show the quality of them. And the one who says they are redundant is right.

7- If there were no dreams and if there were no things like this we would be on the subject that there is no sex... and another war... The one who says the dreams fucked up the scenes has no idea. When you see a scene from the real MC we'll give it all away. In the dream you didn't see the pussy or anything.... We only tried to transmit the obsession of the character.

I had very clear that this game would be very expensive to make because there are many areas, many girls, courses, objects and many things more and that has the handicap that I can only focus on 1 girl or 2 ... because if I focus on all would not see anything until version 10.
Why did I say that if you like it, support it? For the same reason that I can't spend 1 year making a game until the stories of the girls are more or less in order and the people will support it or not... Because for that, I focus on another project if I see comments like that.

8-There are many girls and each one has her story and her way to get it, so your crystal ball works badly.

I'm probably leaving something out and every time I say something it seems like we start another debate as if it were a salsa rosa show.

In reading this comment from the developer, I don't think he gets it. He will probably make some small effort to appease those who don't like the rape and NTR elements in his game. He will make it so players can avoid seeing it, but it still happens. He will probably give up at some point out of frustration on making a game that does not generate enough income to allow him to continue making it. He may even try making another game that will likely have similar issues as this one. When he asks if it's NTR if some one grab's your LI's boob or caresses her ass, it tells me what he is wanting to write; and he will never make any money in doing so. This game is always going to be an NTR game (maybe with some skippable content) until the day it dies.
 

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What's the nature of the i-patch? Are they blood related, or step? Which family members do you get to pound?
 

Harem Trooper

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2.7k dollars a month for an rpg game with no art outside of pixels and sprites animation. That's not big league? To me that is big league. I don't count devs who had to spend years on their projects to build where they are. Neither should you. Also, when you get a face palm from me know that you are in the wrong.
Damn! For only sprites of pixels 2.4k a month ?
Checked his patreon and his project. Personaly its nothing for me, even if he promises there will be a path where you can avoid it. But it seems its full hard NTR in the first place and Im pretty sure people who support him knows it.
From what the dev said in his logs It seems its more about the story and build up which people like his NTR story.
I tried some NTR games, mostly just for the sex scenes since I didnt even bothered to read it but from the reviews even NTR fans kinda are harsh towards these games.

I dont know what counts as "Big Leauge". Is someone like DrPinkCake who make at least 12.7K a month and probably 100k ?
IMO, some one like Caribdis, who only made "Once in a lifetime" and is doing his new work "Eternum" has already over 1.5k subs.
Nothing special really, even had dumb jokes and a laughable story. But Full Harem without any NTR.

I dont know the real numbers how much he get paid, but its clear to me that people like him who focus on Harem/Vailla and never will impliment NTR in the first place will always have it easy to rise up from the others one.
 
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Damn! For only sprites of pixels 2.4k a month ?
Checked his patreon and his project. Personaly its nothing for me, even if he promises there will be a path where you can avoid it. But it seems its full hard NTR in the first place and Im pretty sure people who support him knows it.
From what the dev said in his logs It seems its more about the story and build up which people like his NTR story.
I tried some NTR games, mostly just for the sex scenes since I didnt even bothered to read it but from the reviews even NTR fans kinda are harsh towards these games.

I dont know what counts as "Big Leauge". Is someone like DrPinkCake who make at least 12.7K a month and probably 100k ?
IMO, some one like Caribdis, who only made "Once in a lifetime" and is doing his new work "Eternum" has already over 1.5k subs.
Nothing special really, even had dumb jokes and a laughable story. But Full Harem without any NTR.

I dont know the real numbers how much he get paid, but its clear to me that people like him who focus on Harem/Vailla and never will impliment NTR in the first place will always have it easy to rise up from the others one.
Harem will always do well because the majority of people wanna live inside the games. It is what it is. But i was just telling the other guy that NTR does get a good amount of funding. If the NTR game is done right and isn't shit. Story is crucial in a NTR game next is the sex.

Side note - Just came back and saw that all 5 of my posts got deleted. Mods here have it in for me for whatever reason(feelings got hurt most likely). 20 pages of off-topic shit but they come for my posts only. Glad to see F95 never changes no matter how long you go without posting a counterargument to people hating.
 

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Harem will always do well because the majority of people wanna live inside the games. It is what it is. But i was just telling the other guy that NTR does get a good amount of funding. If the NTR game is done right and isn't shit. Story is crucial in a NTR game next is the sex.

Side note - Just came back and saw that all 5 of my posts got deleted. Mods here have it in for me for whatever reason(feelings got hurt most likely). 20 pages of off-topic shit but they come for my posts only. Glad to see F95 never changes no matter how long you go without posting a counterargument to people hating.
dont worry u r not alone :D

true that this thread became shit to be cleared....
 
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Harem Trooper

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Harem will always do well because the majority of people wanna live inside the games. It is what it is. But i was just telling the other guy that NTR does get a good amount of funding. If the NTR game is done right and isn't shit. Story is crucial in a NTR game next is the sex.

Side note - Just came back and saw that all 5 of my posts got deleted. Mods here have it in for me for whatever reason(feelings got hurt most likely). 20 pages of off-topic shit but they come for my posts only. Glad to see F95 never changes no matter how long you go without posting a counterargument to people hating.
I agree that story is crucial. Without it we wouldnt play a porngame but move to animated clips of people banging.
The thing is that how the dev. is planing his approach wont make anyone happy.
If we read the comments here, the No-NTR people (like myslef) are not happy what the dev. did.
And if we also read the comments and some reviews people who like NTR are also not happy what they got delivered.

He wants to make a Story where a MC will get all the LI in the game by Blackmail and Romance so from that point you wont satisfy the NTR loving part of the community since its not what they want.
But also on the same hand, with the sex scene with the ongoing Chlair and Director you already lost the support who dont like NTR. I wont touch the whole talk that dev. dont think it was NTR. But that his patreons from 19 got reduced to 11 in just a single day shows me his audience and supporters dont see eye to eye with each other.

Plus Dev. says contradicting things and I dont belive its just the language barrier anymore.
 

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As I said I did not understand what you were referring to.
You use a slang or technical terms that no matter how much I translate, strange things come out.
It's my first game of this type and I didn't know what people like or dislike. Or the things that should not be done?
At the beginning the game didn't have fast travel, and I was told. Dev adds fast travel and the next day they had fast travel.
I listen to people and take note but always politely.
Wait 5 minutes I'm uploading the game and watch.

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That is definitely awesome question:D

ok my last comment it is geting to get mods attention and dont want get ticket in crossfire :)

it is nice patch but not realy efective u could already write....your love interest will be banged on desk do u want to see it?

skip vs avoid.... theese are words u should google and translate.....

it is not impossible to made two different ways of one game, but even skilled developer alone would have problem to made two story lines independend to each other....
 
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ptahn

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As I said I did not understand what you were referring to.
You use a slang or technical terms that no matter how much I translate, strange things come out.
It's my first game of this type and I didn't know what people like or dislike. Or the things that should not be done?
At the beginning the game didn't have fast travel, and I was told. Dev adds fast travel and the next day they had fast travel.
I listen to people and take note but always politely.
Wait 5 minutes I'm uploading the game and watch.

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If the event still occurs and you just give the player the opportunity not to watch it, you will make none of the people who complained about the scene happy. I would suggest that you give the player the choice to interrupt the scene, walk into the office before anything happens, and stop any sexual activities between the two characters; or to just watch it happen. You will then make everyone happy.
 

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If the event still occurs and you just give the player the opportunity not to watch it, you will make none of the people who complained about the scene happy. I would suggest that you give the player the choice to interrupt the scene, walk into the office before anything happens, and stop any sexual activities between the two characters; or to just watch it happen. You will then make everyone happy.
Part 1 Claire:
NTR = NO
Claire is in the office. When the mc enters, the girl is not there.

Part 2 Claire:
The MC looks out the window and only sees that the teacher has touched his back.
He is interrupted by Jack.

END.

I will do it from now on. For me it's silly and gives me almost no work.
The story is not that of the Lord of the Rings. I can change 4 sentences.
Whoever wants to see it, yes. Who doesn't want to see it, let him interrupt it.
 
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Harem Trooper

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Part 1 Claire:
NTR = NO
Claire is in the office. When the mc enters, the girl is not there.

Part 2 Claire:
The MC looks out the window and only sees that the teacher has touched his back.
He is interrupted by Jack.

END.

I will do it from now on. For me it's silly and gives me almost no work.
The story is not that of the Lord of the Rings. I can change 4 sentences.
Whoever wants to see it, yes. Who doesn't want to see it, let him interrupt it.

First of all: Its NOT Avoidable, you just made the scene skippable. Current 0.3a version!
Avoidable - Evitable
skippable - saltable
Avoidable =/= skippable !

God damit, people like ptahn gave you a easy and understandable explanation why we hate it and whats the easy fix is.
I dont belive you that even with google translate you cant get that right. I translate Korean Mamhwas from Spanish to English with this method and I always AT LEAST got the gist of what the core of the plot is.
Here its not even something of a hard topic. :rolleyes:

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Everything what happen with Chlair and Director STILL happen off screen. What the problem to understand it ?
There was no Dialog changes which says or hint that nothing one between them has happend!
There were no Renders which says or hint that nothing one between them has happend!

All what the dev did was just cut the scene where they have sex before MC comes in.
We already saw that Chlair was standing near the Director when we got the warning, so even when we dont want to play the NTR route, we STILL get the NTR off screen since Chlair is hiding under the desk.

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Even if I want to believe that NOTHING between them happen, you got facepalmed with the second NTR scene who contradicts thats its Player own imagination what happen between her and the director:

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And:

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But heres the best part:
Dev. says that since he cant or has to give the player the option to show or SKIP the NTR, that it " gives me almost no work ".
Meaning since he cant or show any these stuff since his creative freedom of creating a game is therfore limited. :KEK:

Also: " The story is not that of the Lord of the Rings. I can change 4 sentences "
-Then why dont you do it ?! Jesus I try not to vent here but I got fooled already twice to download this crap and only because I give the dev. the benefit of the doubt.

This is my last comment on this game project since not only you lied and fooled my twice, but it seems you dont or you refuse to understand the core of the problem people here have.
Please for the holy mother russia, dont at or ping me into this thread anymore. I want to leave this cesspool as soon I can.
For evryone who still enjoy it, I wish you best of luck (y)
 

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Its pretty simple, avoidable means it never happens at all. To keep the blackmailing the mc must interrupt them before anything happens, then she can tell him what the other guy wanted to do...that way he knows about it without letting it happen. ntr solved.
Skipable means you just dont see it, but the whole text, dialogues, story, questlog, whatever still says it happend. ntr not solved.
Golden rule to prevent ntr shitstorms: If you need a second guy for the story, never let him open his pants. If you dont need a second guy for the story, dont add one ^^
 

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Its pretty simple, avoidable means it never happens at all. To keep the blackmailing the mc must interrupt them before anything happens, then she can tell him what the other guy wanted to do...that way he knows about it without letting it happen. ntr solved.
Skipable means you just dont see it, but the whole text, dialogues, story, questlog, whatever still says it happend. ntr not solved.
Golden rule to prevent ntr shitstorms: If you need a second guy for the story, never let him open his pants. If you dont need a second guy for the story, dont add one ^^
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