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Gotta say this is one of the best I played so far, decided to try it for the theme and had a lot of fun.
Never really enjoyed incest stuff but the way the cultural ambiance was portrayed created a setting that made it quite fun and acceptable for my taste.
It's evident how much effort was put in this game so far, hope devs keep up the great job.
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"reference". One of my favorite movies ever, it was an awesome surprise.
 

AlienEDM

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One of my post was been deleted from this thread. I just ask the moderators to explain to me the reason of that? As far as I known, my post wasn't violating any rules of the thread.
 

Yngling

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There is a part in me that enjoys being submissive to arrogant naive women out of my own volition and knowing very well that I could just flip the switch at any moment and she could do nothing about it. The Queen is great for this and that's why my current playthrough works on absolute loyalty to her and her whims.

But there is another aspect I enjoy in this game, which is chewing bubble gum and kicking ass... And MC is all out of bubble gum. No, but seriously, spreading influence, absorbing people or even groups into your command, training next generation to continue your legacy, conquering and plundering - all top notch stuff, that is not so common to explore in such well designed setting.

What pains me is that at some point I won't be able to have both. At some point I would either have to take over The Queen or do something inevitably stupid for The Queen and lose otherwise beneficial thing for myself. This is a positive for game's replayability, but the perfectionist inside me is torn apart almost literally.
I agree with what you wrote but I don't see the contradiction.
Most great rulers have one or more people behind the throne who are actually making the decisions.

I think Zaton is a character like that. I don't think he would be a good king for various reasons. Most importantly it doesn't fit the lore: he wouldn't be pharaoh, he would be just some usurper / dictator. Secondly I don't think he would be good at it. Thirdly I think he wouldn't like to sit in a throne room all day.

And that your Zaton is acting submissively towards the Queen in the bedroom doesn't mean he can't have political influence.

Just another guy throw his two cents at the Shani and sharing discussion, but here it is: why so much fuss about this? All the sharing that happens in the game is optional. I would assume that every sharing that might happen in the future will be optional too. Every sex interaction is optional, actually.
Did I enjoy the sharing scenes? Absolutely. Am I into sharing? Not really. But the way the scenes were made was right up my alley. So, even not being a hater or a lover of this type of scene, I am very much a fan of how they were done in the game, to the point that I want the Dev can put some more in the game.
As for Shani, would it make sense to have a sharing scene with her like we did with Ain and Kat? I don´t so. Would I play that scene if it ever gets added? Hell yeah! But to her character, it would probably only make sense if it was something like what happened with the Queen in the bathhouse and I´m pretty confident the person writing this game knows that too.
And if for some reason Shani ever has a sexual experience with another man, with or without Zaton´s presence, I´m very certain that it would be her choice to do so.
I fully agree with you. To add a Shani rape scene would also be out of character for her.
Honestly I think it would be the same as if Zaton would be ass raped.
Realistically it's possible but it would not at all fit the game.
 

PaxHadrian17

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Simple everything what is considerd antagonizing is deleted, like one of mine following yours.
Same - no reason given like thread cleanup upstream etc.

Oh well, back to the important discussions about when Zaton and Shani can advance the Queen's corruption a bit and have Her give Zaton a hand, and if Shani wants to give the Queen a hand at the same time - even better!

Now, will the Queen want Shani to make sure that Zaton's finish does not create a mess in her thermae, or will she take responsibility for preventing the mess herself? :unsure: :love:

Cheers!! :coffee:
 

damiandik

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Anyone knows when the next update coming? I won't download it if it comes within 2 months. Its a hassle downloading games multiple times. I have a habit of deleting games after playing it
 

slightchance

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The cool thing about non-sharing paths is they complement the sharing paths. The better the former, the more intensive the latter. It's like a well made classic, a pizza Magherita, for example. Delicious on its own but also great with other toppings. I happen do enjoy both. The trick is not to put ham and pineapple on it if you can't stand the heat.
 
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wildride69

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One thing seems clear in this thread the dev should explore both paths simultaneously or there will be a lot of pissed off people either way. There is constant bickering in this thread now and deciding on one path over the other will just lead to all out war:sneaky:
 

realhydra

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It's not that having more choices are bad.
The fact is, developer's time and resources are finite.
More of something I don't like means less for something I like.

For example, if the game have two irreversible routes. That means you get half the contents every update.
Even if the devs reuse the visuals. That still means double the narratives, and some may seem awkward.
Some devs may try to let the player switch between any routes. Then players will complain their choices mean nothing.

One may argue that you can play both routes to get all the contents every update.
But it's meaningless if the players don't enjoy the contents.

It's all about kinks, and arguing over it is pointless.
 

wildride69

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It's not that having more choices are bad.
The fact is, developer's time and resources are finite.
More of something I don't like means less for something I like.

For example, if the game have two irreversible routes. That means you get half the contents every update.
Even if the devs reuse the visuals. That still means double the narratives, and some may seem awkward.
Some devs may try to let the player switch between any routes. Then players will complain their choices mean nothing.

One may argue that you can play both routes to get all the contents every update.
But it's meaningless if the players don't enjoy the contents.

It's all about kinks, and arguing over it is pointless.
This is not a one man VN developer any long, and I'm betting there is a big team behind it currently. Multiple routes is what is needed to TRY and make MOST people satisfied. I say MOST because no matter what if Shani gets captured and put through her paces. like a lot of us want and they give her a second Temple Virgin New Queen Daddy lover ruler route the other half wants.

The Shani is the next coming of Christ people will still follow the first route and complain even though nobody forced them to follow that path but it will probably be the best way to satisfy mostly everyone but the Die hard Shani freaks.

The Dev hopefully has enough resources to do both.:cool:
 

Orlu

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One thing seems clear in this thread the dev should explore both paths simultaneously or there will be a lot of pissed off people either way. There is constant bickering in this thread now and deciding on one path over the other will just lead to all out war:sneaky:
There's a lot of dumb trolling, and a lot of people annoyed by the dumb trolling, so the dev should probably do exactly as the dumb trolls request. :rolleyes:
 

realhydra

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This is not a one man VN developer any long, and I'm betting there is a big team behind it currently. Multiple routes is what is needed to TRY and make MOST people satisfied. I say MOST because no matter what if Shani gets captured and put through her paces. like a lot of us want and they give her a second Temple Virgin New Queen Daddy lover ruler route the other half wants.

The Shani is the next coming of Christ people will still follow the first route and complain even though nobody forced them to follow that path but it will probably be the best way to satisfy mostly everyone but the Die hard Shani freaks.

The Dev hopefully has enough resources to do both.:cool:
This stays the same even for large studio with many devs.
Every branch out route will eventually thin out the story. Lead to less contents for each route every update.

Let the developers make what they want, and you will get the most out of it.
 
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Paz

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One thing seems clear in this thread the dev should explore both paths simultaneously or there will be a lot of pissed off people either way. There is constant bickering in this thread now and deciding on one path over the other will just lead to all out war:sneaky:
After some long and arduous deliberation, we have decided to change the release model of the game, in an effort to please everyone.
From now on, the base game will be free but it will be empty.

Instead, Character + Content DLCs will be available for $29.99 each, so each player can truly tailor their experience.
For the true connoisseurs, there will be a premium Battle Pass* available for only $69.99 which will gradually unlock content the more you play.

*cosmetic micro-transactions (altenative outfits, MC hairstyles, and more) will follow at a later date.

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sarcasm, because you never know.

This is not a one man VN developer any long, and I'm betting there is a big team behind it currently.
Not directed specifically at you, but it gives me a nice assist to try and and explain how things are, and maybe temper expectations of AAA-level branching (not that we won't try our best).
While on paper we are a 3-person team, the bulk of the work is still done by one person. If I had to put a number on that "bulk", it would probably be ~95%. It is effectively an one-man project.

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