Harkonnan

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I'm playing 11Beta. And no, I don't have that. Here's the save file. Try and check.
right off I looked at your quest log and read how you handled some of the quests. The main difference I've noticed is you returned Mantis to the Hive which she didn't want to do, hence her escape from them. Maybe Ivy didn't like this and wont trust you enough to trigger the next quests? I will continue looking at your quests and try playing the game a little bit on your save and see what happens. For now maybe load an earlier save and keep Mantis with the Mutants and see if that changes anything. I'll let you know if I find a way to trigger the Ivy quest.

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I went back on a previous save and left Mantis at the Hive and I still got the Ivy quest. The only thing I can think of at this point is you must have somehow messed up on your conversations with Ivy. Try redoing your choices with Ivy and be as patient/understanding as possible and see if that fixes it.
 
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Kellermann

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Was Zion's arm always missing.....
I think so. At first I thought she was the chick (with two intact arms) that interviews you at the beginning of the game, but on second glance the two don't look quite the same, aside from a mask.

I like that they added an amputee with no prosthetics. The usual route is to give them a sci-fi robo arm or something, but here it fits better with the setting and with the gruesome nature of the raiders. Hope we get to find out how Zion lost it. Probably explains why she is so angry all of the time. She really needs some dick and a desert ale to calm down.
 

JohnF95zone

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she was the chick (with two intact arms) that interviews you at the beginning of the gam
Edit: Sorry, mouse issue, posted before I type the reply (below).

For me, the first person the player see and interviews him/her is ZetanDS, the developer himself (the in-game representation of himself).
 
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I think so. At first I thought she was the chick (with two intact arms) that interviews you at the beginning of the game, but on second glance the two don't look quite the same, aside from a mask.

I like that they added an amputee with no prosthetics. The usual route is to give them a sci-fi robo arm or something, but here it fits better with the setting and with the gruesome nature of the raiders. Hope we get to find out how Zion lost it. Probably explains why she is so angry all of the time. She really needs some dick and a desert ale to calm down.
Huh. I didn't even notice she was missing an arm last update, guess I was too distracted by the human battering ram to notice it
 

JohnF95zone

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Huh. I didn't even notice she was missing an arm last update, guess I was too distracted by the human battering ram to notice it
Probably someone chop off her arm between the updates and I wonder who did that :unsure:? Sorry, just kidding:ROFLMAO:.

You just have to load a save before the 'outpost' quest and replay the quest to find out (I don't remember the exact quest name). This is where I believe a 'read only' Replay Quest* (for completed) and Restart Quest (for ongoing) features would come in handy, but it is just too much work and probably not worth it (since there is already save file for that).

*Replay Quest works in a similar fashion as Replay Scene in the Gallery (but extended). Let's the player replay quests/missions without changing his/her game state.
 
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Paz

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Zion's arm has always been like that indeed, a keen eye might even spot an appearance quite early in the game.
 
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Probably someone chop off her arm between the updates and I wonder who did that :unsure:? Sorry, just kidding:ROFLMAO:.

You just have to load a save before the 'outpost' quest and replay the quest to find out (I don't remember the exact quest name). This is where I believe a 'read only' Replay Quest* (for completed) and Restart Quest (for ongoing) features would come in handy, but it is just too much work and probably not worth it (since there is already save file for that).

*Replay Quest works in a similar fashion as Replay Scene in the Gallery (but extended). Let's the player replay quests/missions without changing his/her game state.
You know what, I actually thought she got her arm chopped off when they were taking over or something
 
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MrDeos

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I don't have any insecurities that I have to get past. I make no judgements on those who activate the content. I just don't fancy sharing my toys. I am selfish, though more than happy to take (temporarily borrow!) another person's toys. I am terribly hypocritical. :giggle: My in-game MC is a violent, brutish, arrogant, grapey motherfucker, but he still believes in cherishing his marriage and his lovely wife above all others....

....except when he is out on patrol, or in town, or at a friends house, or just generally whenever he is within a 50 metre radius of an attractive female. Fortunately (or unfortunately), every female in this game is attractive.

I am just happy that the devs give us options. You can tell it is a good game when two players like us, with diametrically opposed opinions on the matter, can equally enjoy the experience.
I fully identified
 

JohnF95zone

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Intermittent Coherence

Unfortunately for you, you (and we) will (most likely) never found out (anytime soon) why this mysterious anomaly happened. As with any BETA releases, there will be no support provided. BETA testers were only requested to report all the bugs, typo etc. and the game developer obligations (and utmost priorities) are to fix those reported issues.

Investigating corner cases like this one falls short within the limited timeframe that the developer has. Hopefully, the issue is somehow fixed (as a byproduct result of the other fixes that went into the game following the BETA bug reports) when the official version is released. By then, as more players have access to and play the (official release) game, we will find out if this is a big problem for many and wll be able to pinpoint the issue for it to be fixed.

In the meantime, just be patient all I can say to you. Cheers.

Edit: DS team gets around to investigate the issue and it is not a bug as confirmed here.
 
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Kokodeska

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whats the difference with this beta and Official it is okay to play beta now or i wait the official release??
 

applepie68

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storytelling allows you to choose characters you'd like to interact with and content you'd want to see. So the game has parts that you can miss, or content blocked due to choices you've made, eventually influencing whole parts of game or maybe endings
all for game replayability and player's choice
I played enough VNs to understand that but I am simply pointing out that as of right now the content that exist is heavily in favor of saving the elf. Since there appears to be no consequence to saving her. At first the game makes it seems like you miss getting a reward from the queen but then you get a new slave anyways. Meanwhile if you don't save the elf you simply just miss a bunch of content. As far as I can tell right now there is no reason not to save the elf unless I missed a scene or two that gets unlocked by not saving her.
 

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whats the difference with this beta and Official it is okay to play beta now or i wait the official release??
A few definitions:
Beta software that has not yet been released but has received an alpha test and still has more bugs than a regular release.

Beta software refers to computer software that is undergoing testing and has not yet been officially released. The beta phase follows the alpha phase, but precedes the final version. Some beta software is only made available to a select number of users, while other beta programs are released to the general public.

Beta refers to the phase in software development between the alpha phase and the release candidate phase. The software is generally considered "complete" by the developer but still not ready for general use due to a lack of testing "in the wild."
I don't know the exact definition that the Desert Stalker team uses but it not that different from the ones I listed above. Also, I am not aware of any Alpha release, so most likely DS team lumps Alpha and Beta release together into Beta (and Alpha is just basically ZetanDS playtesting as he develops the game) to simplify the release cycle.

It is up to you if you want to play it now or wait. Just my 2 cents, if you download and play it now then you will most likely have to download and play the game again when the Official version is released. Cheers.

Edit: If you read posts by other members on this thread about the BETA, then you will also have better reasons either to play now or wait. Do you want to risk of not being able to play Ivy quest similar to what Intermittent Coherence had experience and not knowing why? (Okay that one appears to be a bug but is not) Usually, the Official Release will be available to the public (broke ass pirates free) less than a week after it was released to Patreon subscribers (paid).
 
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