Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.17.1.2 Steam] [Zetan]

[jimmyjoo]

Scroll back and make the other choice.. that IS a dead end with no resolution.

could you explain a bit more? are we still talking about the raid in the pyramid?

I didn't get this ending but I'm assuming that that's because I told her to take care of herself, right? The game doesn't really seem to end for me. The day starts with nothing to do and then loops from that point.

 

[Cynicaladm]

I didn't get this ending but I'm assuming that that's because I told her to take care of herself, right? The game doesn't really seem to end for me. The day starts with nothing to do and then loops from that point.

mmh. there should be a couple of replayable events at home.. and the main event shouldn't be replayable (but it may have been Zetan's choice to leave that loop open..I'll have to check.)

but yeah.. there is not a great deal of content yet.. so it might be you've reached the end, for now.

 

[jimmyjoo]

mmh. there should be a couple of replayable events at home.. and the main event shouldn't be replayable (but it may have been Zetan's choice to leave that loop open..I'll have to check.)

but yeah.. there is not a great deal of content yet.. so it might be you've reached the end, for now.

I get the after dinner scene and the massage scene, but that's it.

 

[Cynicaladm]

I get the after dinner scene and the massage scene, but that's it.

good.. that's how it should be.

 

[Haikuru]

because that's what people do when they have unprotected sex

that wasn't his point..Ain's character was revised from a graphic point of view to eliminate every concern the Dev had in terms of what the laws in his country could potentially do with regards to underage implications. The gore filter is for other aspects of the game that have more to do with personal preference of the players. Playing with the gore filter on will however always be a less complete experience than without.

Patreon concern was circumvented with the old disclaimers and naming the relationships yourself. This really had to do with the Dev not being comfortable even hinting at possible underage factor because of local laws (and yes, we are all aware that age of consent varies...but still. it was possibly and excess in caution, but if it makes him sleep better, I'm all for it).

The game is still fairly short.

The late realisation comes from the fact that neither of us has ever done this sort of things before, and that the Dev has spent so many hours on the renderings and other aspects of the game, that wondering about the local laws just came up later down the line.


Finally the "if you're going to disallow underage you might as well take out the rape" argument.

I get it.
I really do.
We're not going to, and here's why:
The underage thing is a big scare for multiple reasons, and it's also something that neither of us are comfortable with (that is, the extreme loli with early teens or even preteens..and yes, I know, this was not the case here).
I have actually argued against changing Ain, citing some of the same arguments (aesthetical) I have heard both here and privately. Since the Dev was still worried about it and would have had this nagging at him going forward, the decision has been made to change the looks.
Since this is still a work in progress and a learning experience for all parties involved, there's a possibility that she will be finetuned further, as we develop more content, and that some happy medium will be reached (happy for the Dev, which is my primary concern over the happiness of the players.. I know, counterintuitive, right?).
As for the forced sex content... we know we're riding along a similar line/grey area.
That said, this game takes place in very much a Mad Max/Fist of the North Star kind of world.. one where might makes right and once might is established, it helps every party involved accept the power balance.
Sex is a normalised and integral part of establishing rank and regulating social interactions.
Think of the Bonobo chimps that use sex pretty much in a similar way, to navigate uncertain social situations, to show affection, dominance, rank, grooming, friendship, education and sometimes just for fun.
It's a warrior society with limited resources and a somewhat liberated sexuality (we could/would just as easily tell this story without the sexy content, if the Dev hadn't taken the initiative from this forum but say, one dedicated to dystopia or sci fi).
We are also interested in exploring or at least representing the edgier side of sexuality (sexuality is not the same as sexual activity or act), in terms of bdsm and such, or at least characters who normalise that sort of thing. The raider girl explicitly states that she'd like a dominant guy to look up to (in what is a bit of probably hamfisted exposition, I agree, but it was a tricky message to convey in casual conversation anwyay).
Basically we will be coasting between the lines of CNC and RACK, for those who are familiar with those terms.

These are themes we've made integral part of how this society works and you could say that the normalisation thereof is, other than the novel setting, the distinctive trait of the game that has appealed to me and made me take an interest and participate in its development.
So removing them is not really an option, for me at least, and the subject is a much greyer area than it would be on the loli front, which allows us to explore.

Of course, we're well aware that in the real world the scene with the raider would be counted as rape by almost every external observer, given the context in which it occurred, but in universe precisely that context makes it so that it wasn't, and that's how we justify depicting it in the first place.
As a matter of fact, the depiction of "forced" situations will always be within the logic of social dynamics that reflect what I've tried to describe above, and the MC has his own moral code that will never condone straight up rape, but will still have to parse it with the world he lives in.
And the player will always have the possibility to opt out of making the MC perform sexual acts he doesn't think are acceptable from that point of view, by making a different choice.

I'll be honest, I'd love to read all this, But we have to work to live here in Japan, So looks like I don't have time, Mind shorting what u said?

 

[Majindevil]

hmm call me crazy i think im too big a fan of the old ain model -,- so i tinkered a bit with an image from the new version and was quite shocked how easy it was to let the new version look like the old one(im snowed in dont judge me)
the difference is really small but changes her appearance a lot.

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not perfect but only with a morph tool an a few minutes and the effect is quit drastic maybe the dev finds a nice middleground to the older more innocent face and the newer more mature one.

 

[The ArcKnight]

I cant comment on the new material yet as I'm playing fresh and just got to Ain but honestly, I have no idea what people would complain about, visual changes are super minor. Still love Ain, she's daddy's favorite.

 

[Cynicaladm]

I'll be honest, I'd love to read all this, But we have to work to live here in Japan, So looks like I don't have time, Mind shorting what u said?

agh..summing up things is the one thing I suck at most... I'll try.

Snowpeak wasn't talking about the gore censorship but about the fact that we changed the looks of Ain to make her a little more mature, despite knowing this would displease her many fans (I'm one of them).
this was done to give the Dev peace of mind with regards not to Patreon but to the laws about underage porn in his country, a much more real and pressing concern for him.

what followed was an argumentation of why we have done that but done nothing about the rather violent sexual (and non sexual) content, bordering on rape.
in short, it's consistent with the theme of the game, the setting and the type of content we want to explore and, in the setting, normalise.
it's a much more undefined and grey area, and we're happy to explore it, but there will never be an active support of straight up rape (which that scene was not..and I'm not going to explain or this summation will become just as long.. read it, if you want, when you have time).

that said, thank you for the walkthrough, but I do feel the need to say that making it now was too soon. most of the decisions that are relevant to the plot will come to fruition several updates from now, so making an informed choice for either a player or a modder is just not feasible.
for instance, this

Yeah, Something about that, In the current state, You don't see anything really bad for hurting the Asian girl etc, But trust me, Your actions will fuck you over, And its better in the long run to just toss her down.

is in fact not right because "spoilers". It is either a misinterpretation by Matt or something that has gone wrong in translation.

 

[Akifai]

Ain is different, and it's noticeable. The dev feared that the old version of Ain would cause trouble by the law. I doubt that only making a "super minor" change would be enough to alleviate the dev's concern of being hunted down by the law. I played both versions side by side.

Her introduction, and mannerism are different, the way she acts, and the way she looks is in better conjunction in the previous version. It's not really a surprise that many people prefer the older version.

Afterall, it is how the dev originally envisioned her. This version of Ain is just a tweak as a result of necessity. The fact of the matter is that Ain wasn't changed to make her look better for the player.

 

[KaneB.C.]

awesome game. hope to see next update sooner than
later.

 

[VN..reader]

Hail Zetan, i would like to ask for your daughter 'Jasmine' hand in marriage ...

 

[AlexTorch]

Well...so far is a really good game, i cannot tell anything about the changes (since i only have seen this game now) but the history so far is really good, is nice to see some really good games coming back here, i just hope that the game have regular updates.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

Well...so far is a really good game, i cannot tell anything about the changes (since i only have seen this game now) but the history so far is really good, is nice to see some really good games coming back here, i just hope that the game have regular updates.

Same...at this point i laugh about how similar our tastes are XD

 

[Cynicaladm]

A recent phenomenon where people have grown to think "a lot" should be spelt "alot" even though it generates a red wiggly line when typed

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Also "eraze" - where'd that come from? New one to me. Should be "erase".

gotcha.. we're actually in the process of editing and correcting the texts.. I did catch this one and in the next patch it will be fixed. we weren't expecting the early release to be outed so soon, without the complete editing... my mistake.

 

[The ArcKnight]

Update was short but meaningful. Loved the new lewd scenes, especially with the new slave. I really hope we can knock her up. I am interested to see what happens to the raider lady we picked up and that other slave we "liberated" from her former master, (once we get her and the elf back). I think the game hits a tone that i've found missing in other games that just try to pad out things between action, this game cuts through the bullshit and gives you an interesting story and doesn't try to bullshit you on the naughty scenes. Good job to the Dev.

Love the direction that the game is going. How often will updates be from here on out?

 

[Nulldev]

Nice, need more!

 

[Orzammar]

Yeah, Something about that, In the current state, You don't see anything really bad for hurting the Asian girl etc, But trust me, Your actions will fuck you over, And its better in the long run to just toss her down.

I haven't played since 0.001, but I gotta say that's kinda disappointing to hear. Guess I'll keep two saves just so I can see that scene anyway lol

EDIT: disregard what I said, tis scene almost changed entirely from when I last played and I misunderstood what choices you were talking about haha

 

[JB08]

Was Ain redesigned? How did she look before I forgot. Do we have a comparison picture?

 

[dumbass55]

I'm glad there's no incest tag tbh. I hate sex with biological family members.

 

[AlexTorch]

Same...at this point i laugh about how similar our tastes are XD

Hey...someone need to have a great taste to see others with great taste too...I'm really a fan of great history, characters development, and a good sex scenes. To see only porn i can go to pornhub.