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frozenfeet

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I found a mega link for the old Ain if anyone wants to check it out

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Thanks for the download. I compared them and the new Ain is quite a bit taller as well. But I still like the new Ain I think she is still very pretty. She is still daddy's little favorite :love:.

One thing that disappointed me in the newer version though is in the first scene when the MC goes to his bedroom and Ain is standing in front of Zhara. The dev shifted the angle of the scene and we don't get to see the round curve of Ain's cute little ass anymore. :cry::p
 
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Famescua

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Yeah the old Ain was hotter. So I downloaded 0.3 and replaced all the day 1 and 2 pics that have Ain in them. I know that later on she looks different but damn she looked hot in those scenes.
 

desmosome

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I love the relationship dynamics with dominating MC and wife/Ain. This is my ideal type of incest. Great setting to enable the breakdown of norms in society and make the darker paths seem realistic. It's also kind of fresh to have a favored daughter that MC is training to take over one day while the other one is being groomed for sexual relief.

The only thing that makes me uneasy is the sandbox elements and how the scenes are just repeating. Let's hope that scenes only repeat at the end of an update when you run out of material. Sandbox also has a tendency to make the different story segments feel disjointed. These are not insurmountable problems so I hope the dev can keep it in mind. Good luck, I am definitely looking forward to more.
 
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Cynicaladm

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The only thing that makes me uneasy is the sandbox elements and how the scenes are just repeating. Let's hope that scenes only repeat at the end of an update when you run out of material. Sandbox also has a tendency to make the different story segments feel disjointed. These are not insurmountable problems so I hope the dev can keep it in mind. Good luck, I am definitely looking forward to more.
the repeatable scenes are indeed set on a loop. they are written to make sense independently from when in the story you decide to go back to them.. moments of intimacy that are for the most part not tied to the main plotlines. we've gone a small step further by rewriting the dialogues... by which I mean that the first time you encounter a scene destined to become a repeat event, it might include dialogue that is relevant to the moment in time that unlocks that scene... further visits however, will have small alterations to the dialogues that remove those plot relevant details, to turn it into an isolated event, detached from a specific timeline. (still the same scene, but the context becomes more generic, precisely to counter the alienating sensation of a scene feeling like it's out of place).
Following the same logic, the repeat events are the main thing that is sandbox..the core of the game is a multiple choice sequence of events that leads to different outcomes but has a somewhat linear structure.
 

longjohngold

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This was great... I like this kinda of family domination, making the mother blow you while the daughter watches, and groping her all the time and whatnot... I knew it'd probably work for me when I could mess up tht one girl at the start then force her to blow me before pissing on her... shame I've lost 2 hot potential slaves now (damn elves), but hopefully in a future update I'll at least get to do stuff to the new one I took from the zombie folks... the loop at the end threw me but it looks like that's just how the sand box is supposed to play out, so it's no bother.

Really want to fuck both the daughters even the one the MC's raised to be different... I'm very curious as to what the old version of the youngest daughter looked like now that I see some complaints about it, was she that much hotter?... new one is a bit over-boobed for my tastes, couldn't say if that was true before or not though...

I wonder how much I'm screwing myself over by constantly trying to have my cake and eat it and acquire all the women... but I guess I'll just have to see how it plays out later on.
 
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alexrieper

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Looks to me like Ain had a growth spur overnight but that is about it. Honestly kind of funny loading the save from 0.2 where you go to bed and wake up with her "grown up". She's a bit taller and definitely older, doesn't bother me but I can see the difference and the point people are making.

BTW Cynicaladm if you're making edits for the public version you should know there is a dialog inconsistency in the Decayed base when you talk to their leader. If you opt for the hostile route he offers you the raider girl in the cage in exchange for their lives but when you want to leave he says "Hey wait a minute, you can't just take her!". That doesn't make any sense.

Edit: I'll be keeping my V0.2 version of this as well, like the old Ain too so I'll keep a separate folder for her. Also, how do you have a scene where Ain and Zhara talk about cleaning the mess and cut it off without letting us watch?! That's borderline criminal :ROFLMAO:
 

desmosome

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the repeatable scenes are indeed set on a loop. they are written to make sense independently from when in the story you decide to go back to them.. moments of intimacy that are for the most part not tied to the main plotlines. we've gone a small step further by rewriting the dialogues... by which I mean that the first time you encounter a scene destined to become a repeat event, it might include dialogue that is relevant to the moment in time that unlocks that scene... further visits however, will have small alterations to the dialogues that remove those plot relevant details, to turn it into an isolated event, detached from a specific timeline. (still the same scene, but the context becomes more generic, precisely to counter the alienating sensation of a scene feeling like it's out of place).
Following the same logic, the repeat events are the main thing that is sandbox..the core of the game is a multiple choice sequence of events that leads to different outcomes but has a somewhat linear structure.
I see. This could be up to personal taste, but I find repeat events kind of takes me out of game immersion wise. You had the good sense to change the dialogues a bit to remove the plot specific stuff, but there is still the problem of people having the same conversion and same actions day in and day out like they are stuck in a time loop whenever they enter the kitchen. The only repeating events that I could tolerate (again, in terms of immersion into the world) is ones that have no dialogue and just descriptive text. "We watched TV and fooled around a bit." Something like that could be repeated a lot without causing too much issues.

I wouldn't be surprised if many people don't have such hang ups and are happy to have the scenes at their disposal. Personally though, once I see a scene once, repeated viewings do absolutely nothing for me. You have a certain system in mind when it comes to game mechanics, so I wouldn't expect it to change at this stage. Just adding my 2 cents. Not a huge problem and I can just not do the repeated events all the time.

edit: wait I thought you were the dev based on the response lol. Maybe not.
 
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myuhinny

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Is it me or is MC's dick getting faker and faker looking with each update? This update it seems like it has grown another foot or so. Either way I spammed past the BJ scene if you've seen one horse cock BJ you've seen them all.

Not sure why Ain was changed as there was nothing wrong with her now she looks like she plastered a lot of make up on to try to hide something.

Maybe I can make Ain and the slave trade places where the slave will be the new daughter.

Well at least we still have the older sister and hopefully she doesn't get changed as well. I think she'll be the one that I'll be going after now and I'll just ignore Ain.

Also scenes like a BJ or titty scene you could make a loop in the script where the images loop to where it looks like a gif so we don't have to click each time to move a scene forward and can instead sit there and watch it play.
 
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redwind21

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I keep having problems with this game. Every time it comes time to save Shani, I get an error. I can't make a choice because of it. If I roll back, it produces the error again. If I ignore, Shani dies and the game ends. What the heck is going on? This also happened with the prior release.
 

Haikuru

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agh..summing up things is the one thing I suck at most... I'll try.

Snowpeak wasn't talking about the gore censorship but about the fact that we changed the looks of Ain to make her a little more mature, despite knowing this would displease her many fans (I'm one of them).
this was done to give the Dev peace of mind with regards not to Patreon but to the laws about underage porn in his country, a much more real and pressing concern for him.

what followed was an argumentation of why we have done that but done nothing about the rather violent sexual (and non sexual) content, bordering on rape.
in short, it's consistent with the theme of the game, the setting and the type of content we want to explore and, in the setting, normalise.
it's a much more undefined and grey area, and we're happy to explore it, but there will never be an active support of straight up rape (which that scene was not..and I'm not going to explain or this summation will become just as long.. read it, if you want, when you have time).

that said, thank you for the walkthrough, but I do feel the need to say that making it now was too soon. most of the decisions that are relevant to the plot will come to fruition several updates from now, so making an informed choice for either a player or a modder is just not feasible.
for instance, this


is in fact not right because "spoilers". It is either a misinterpretation by Matt or something that has gone wrong in translation.
Alright, Thank you very much, I understand now.
 
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FormerlyknownasOlheden

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I'm going to go ahead and say it. If you think the difference between the two Ain models is negligible, you're blind. People pointing this out aren't "whining", they're just understandably disappointed. Seems strange to not have realized the implications of your original design if it was that serious of a law.

There's a completely different aura and sense of personality from the original Ain. If the author has law issues, understandable, but these random damage control comments trying to convince people that there's no real difference is just pointless. It is what it is. A complete downgrade. But, apparently a necessary one and that's fine. The main offender is the face. The softer features and adorable look of the original model was just better. The new one lacks the same personality and looks more vanilla. It's not that it's bad, it's just not as striking.

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Meh, disagree. Sure, there are some differences but not that dramatic. I slightly preferred the previous model but she’s still crazy hot. If there’s even a small chance that dev will get cold feet and abandon the project out of concerns with local laws, then I’ll happily take the changes. And hope for a post-completion patch like Parental Love.
 

Cynicaladm

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I see. This could be up to personal taste, but I find repeat events kind of takes me out of game immersion wise. You had the good sense to change the dialogues a bit to remove the plot specific stuff, but there is still the problem of people having the same conversion and same actions day in and day out like they are stuck in a time loop whenever they enter the kitchen. The only repeating events that I could tolerate (again, in terms of immersion into the world) is ones that have no dialogue and just descriptive text. "We watched TV and fooled around a bit." Something like that could be repeated a lot without causing too much issues.

I wouldn't be surprised if many people don't have such hang ups and are happy to have the scenes at their disposal. Personally though, once I see a scene once, repeated viewings do absolutely nothing for me. You have a certain system in mind when it comes to game mechanics, so I wouldn't expect it to change at this stage. Just adding my 2 cents. Not a huge problem and I can just not do the repeated events all the time.

edit: wait I thought you were the dev based on the response lol. Maybe not.
The repeated events are entirely avoidable. Not doing them won't interfere with the game progression, so you can indeed choose not to revisit them.
I'm not the main dev. I do help him out, write some of the content and do the editing.
 

damien_sensei

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Yo so i found this game and got hooked, just got a doubt i see developer mentions "whoring out the girls", and the first meeting with daughter, she says she will let others grope only if the MC tell her too... so i guess there would be sharing your girls down the line? i am asking cuz there is no mention in tags and genre...cool game but i am more about the one cock rules them all setting ;)
 
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