It's a beta release. It's not a fully completed game just yet.Is this complete alread or what? 17.1.1 full. Realese? What's that mean?
Don't worry. Wholesome desert vibes all aroundreading the comments are kinda making me scared of updating lol. Is it safe or nah?
My question is why were some scenes apparently removed entirely? I get why you might have to alter a few scenes from angles or whatever, but I can think of 2 scenes that I've not encountered on this new playthrough (Specifically with Ain), that seem to have just been removed entirely? Sorry if you've answered this already, but why the one where you call Ain over near the beginning of the game, when you are saying hello to Zhara? When she's kneeling and you could call Ain over for a hug? And then a sleeping scene with Ain later on? Given all of the other scenes are still intact with her, that are even kinkier, often involving the same characters, I'm puzzled why those 2 were removed?I think this whole thing is blown out of proportions
Anyhow, I hope my answer satisfies you because that's all I can provide.
With the somewhat recent Patreon review (and the then-upcoming Steam review) some time ago, that particular scene with the render angles it had could be perceived as risky -for the wrong reasons imho- as it was too early in the game, before we've had a chance to establish characters or settings.
We were a bit uncomfortable about risking our presence on those platforms (and, frankly, the existence of the game) with this small part, so after much discussion we removed it.
Could it make an appearance again in the future? It's likely, but not in the exact form it was.
That's all there is to it. No grand conspiracy or something.
As for the dynamics, I agree it showed them nicely but we do have plenty of other scenes showing it, so the overall feeling is not lost imho.
I personally wasn't deflecting or anything, simply answered to a person that pretty much said "I fear they will slowly remove Ain from the game" that is this not the case.
See above, no excuse or anything, just a fact that adding more renders of Ain is pretty much evidence that we don't plan to remove her or whatever.
And in any case, if we wanted or were forced to remove her entirely, we certainly wouldn't do it 2 renders at a time. That would take ages.
To help fly under the patreon radar is the short answer for the first one. For the second, the only sleep events you can do with her is fuggin' her while she's sleeping or waking her up first. Are you talking about the Ain Massage event? If so, I think that got temporarily "commented out"/deactivated (people have said that it is still in the game files) because it's starting to show it's age and the devs didn't want something so raw for the steam release but couldn't find the time to work on it without causing more delays.Sorry if you've answered this already, but why the one where you call Ain over near the beginning of the game, when you are saying hello to Zhara? When she's kneeling and you could call Ain over for a hug? And then a sleeping scene with Ain later on? Given all of the other scenes are still intact with her, that are even kinkier, often involving the same characters, I'm puzzled why those 2 were removed?
My question is why were some scenes apparently removed entirely? [... Ain scenes ...]
Some bugs have been fixed, making scenes available that weren't in the beta.Is there any new scene compare to 0.17 beta?
There's netori & sharing. (Nothing has changed in that AFAIK.)Is the Ntr gone?
This is the final update for this version, unless any minor bugs are found and pushed out.when is the final?0.17
I mean Google/Bing/etc existthe actual patreon must have every older ver right, like just deep down the timeline somewhere?
It is NOT a beta, this is the release version, the same version you find on Steam.It's a beta release. It's not a fully completed game just yet.
When I played it the Ntr scenes were gone I think I need a new downloadSome bugs have been fixed, making scenes available that weren't in the beta.
Still, there seem to be some bugs left, so I'd expect a 0.17.2 or something in the near future.
Reportedly (see #21,553 *) 'Ain's massage' is still part of the game's content, but it doesn't seem to trigger in-game. May be a bug to be fixed.
There's netori & sharing. (Nothing has changed in that AFAIK.)
* @ a certain cynical adm: oh, hey, handy, now I can point users to that post ... (FYI, answering your questions: I played through the beta, waiting to play again / enjoy at a later point in time. I do love me a good table though!)
It is, as it is the same version that is on Steam, and Steam gets updates same time as Patreon/SS.Also is v0.17.1.1 the latest update?
Thanks but all the Ntr scenes are gone for meIt is, as it is the same version that is on Steam, and Steam gets updates same time as Patreon/SS.
They are not gone.Thanks but all the Ntr scenes are gone for me
progress to fairy and after you will have access to basement again. tho no clue what happens when you finish fairy basement quests if shes still there. so better finish kyra before that."Friends in low places" is still bugged :/ Kyra is still in the basement and can't access that area to start the quest chain. Any knows fixes ?
you need to activate sharing option in preference.Thanks but all the Ntr scenes are gone for me
Since this topic got a lot of traction now, maybe more people would beat you?Very true. It is still setting a precedent though and still a completely illogical stance and thing to cut given the rest of the 'daughter' content that is in the VN...but...*shrugs*
Putting it back in is actually a pretty simple process, if there really is enough interest then I'll be happy to make a RCM for this scene and this scene alone unless someone beats me to it.
I am referring to that sleep event with Ain, where you can either let her sleep, or wake her up, though it's heavily implied she's playing along the whole time. I don't see what's wrong with that scene from a visual standpoint. It was a great scene that was on my frequent flyer list of gallery scenes to peruse. Shame people thought it was somehow low quality. If that's why then I hope it gets returned eventually.View attachment 4346181 View attachment 4346182 View attachment 4346184
To help fly under the patreon radar is the short answer for the first one. For the second, the only sleep events you can do with her is fuggin' her while she's sleeping or waking her up first. Are you talking about the Ain Massage event? If so, I think that got temporarily "commented out"/deactivated (people have said that it is still in the game files) because it's starting to show it's age and the devs didn't want something so raw for the steam release but couldn't find the time to work on it without causing more delays.