Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.19.4] [Zetan]

[hagare]

I don't think it would fit her character at all, especially in the Zone where she'll be fighting for her life against nature and fallout. Now her teacher did tell her not to be afraid to use her sex appeal to win a fight but that would be her tricking someone so she can kill them. Honestly outside of maybe the raider sisters everyone the MC can get as a love interest just seems way too loyal to be with anyone else without him being the one to tell them to. And even the raiders seem to be more discerning about who they have sex with, like they only do it with someone they respect or they control utterly and it seems the MC is the only one who fits that first category, and I can't see them settling for a lesser man now.

using sex to get an upper hand is not something far fetched though.
Hell, it's used a lot in the real world.
In a survival scenario, sex, like any other thing is a tool in your bag.

 

[varage]

After the scene with the MC and Shani is quite clear that their relationship is different and special. that's why i'm not interested in seeing her get fk by a bunch of men.
About the queen I also chose the kiss and it didn't bother me. but you know how it goes with women it's ok

Well yea judging by the fact that it probably not everyone's thing to slam Asha's face into the trunk of the car rape her mouth and then piss in it. It's not everyone's thing but it does exist that's all I'm saying.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

using sex to get an upper hand is not something far fetched though.
Hell, it's used a lot in the real world.
In a survival scenario, sex, like any other thing is a tool in your bag.

Exactly, her teacher, whose name I forget, even told her to be ready to use her sex appeal. But that's different than having sex indiscreetly. Getting boned isn't a tool in a survival scenario, it's a loss in that scenario. That's what a woman who is trying to survive is trying to avoid. Shani isn't a sex starved nymph, she's been trained to be a badass, and is trying to survive in one piece. Her seducing someone and slitting their throat when they let their guard down to save herself would be within the bound of appropriateness. Her giving up, getting boned and then killing them or running off is essentially a failure state in this kind of game.

She strikes me as the kind of person who'd fight to the death before letting someone take her cherry (if she isn't with the MC) and would definitely never cheat on the MC if she is with him. Now, she might feign surrender to save herself, but that would end in one of her dozens of knifes in the enemy's neck long before they got near her prize.

Feel free to disagree of course, but from how I read her character, it would stretch credulity too far for her to have sex in the zone or afterwards for many reasons (not least of which is the nature of the zone itself). Except perhaps with the queen when she gets back, but then it's basically two members of a harem together so that'd be whatever.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

At most, I see Shani doing something like flashing her tits as a distraction or flirting to lure someone in before ultimately going for the kill. I think anything else would be out of character. She undoubtedly loves MC and the women of MC's house don't do anything with other men unless he tells them to.

 

[varage]

I find it kinda funny how so many people are against infidelity but also inlove with harem games lol.

 

[varage]

Exactly, her teacher, whose name I forget, even told her to be ready to use her sex appeal. But that's different than having sex indiscreetly. Getting boned isn't a tool in a survival scenario, it's a loss in that scenario. That's what a woman who is trying to survive is trying to avoid. Shani isn't a sex starved nymph, she's been trained to be a badass, and is trying to survive in one piece. Her seducing someone and slitting their throat when they let their guard down to save herself would be within the bound of appropriateness. Her giving up, getting boned and then killing them or running off is essentially a failure state in this kind of game.

She strikes me as the kind of person who'd fight to the death before letting someone take her cherry (if she isn't with the MC) and would definitely never cheat on the MC if she is with him. Now, she might feign surrender to save herself, but that would end in one of her dozens of knifes in the enemy's neck long before they got near her prize.

Feel free to disagree of course, but from how I read her character, it would stretch credulity too far for her to have sex in the zone or afterwards for many reasons (not least of which is the nature of the zone itself). Except perhaps with the queen when she gets back, but then it's basically two members of a harem together so that'd be whatever.

So your point is you'd be upset if she came home raped and alive but okay with her fighting to the death and being taken out of the story all together?

 

[Deleted member 1403292]

I find it kinda funny how so many people are against infidelity but also inlove with harem games lol.

Ppl love movies about bank robbers... Not so much about bankers being robbed xD

 

[JoeTheMC84]

I find it kinda funny how so many people are against infidelity but also inlove with harem games lol.

I'm not against infidelity, it just needs to fit the setting and/or character, and in this setting with these characters it just doesn't seem like it makes sense. So many games do it terribly. A woman who is so careful not to bang the MC until he does all these tasks then suddenly bangs a stranger, or an ex-boyfriend she dumped for a good reason, or someone like that all because the MC didn't get the right flowers or something one time. It makes no sense and that's usually how it happens in games where the MC gets cucked. It either doesn't fit the character or feels forced and such.

 

[varage]

I'm just saying if she went to the zone a virgin and got sexually assaulted wanting to give her virginity to her father it would add to the story as well because you would have the discussion where you decide if she's worth "less" because she was raped.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

So your point is you'd be upset if she came home raped and alive but okay with her fighting to the death and being taken out of the story all together?

That misses the point of my response entirely. No, I was saying that those are both fail states for a game like this. And that based on her character I think she'd rather die than get raped.

Edit: By the way, I think her father, who trained her to survive in the Zone, would also rather die than get raped.

 

[varage]

Ppl love movies about bank robbers... Not so much about bankers being robbed xD

Um, not the same thing the closest comparision i could think of is people like to get blow jobs not necissarily giving them. Watching something happen and doing something is different things in this case you're saying infidelity is bullshit while being a cheater lol.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

I'm just saying if she went to the zone a virgin and got sexually assaulted wanting to give her virginity to her father it would add to the story as well because you would have the discussion where you decide if she's worth "less" because she was raped.

For the record, I'm not against Shani having sex with others. But...she's a stalker. I don't think MC would send her to the zone if he wasn't confident in her ability to handle herself.

 

[varage]

That misses the point of my response entirely. No, I was saying that those are both fail states for a game like this. And that based on her character I think she'd rather die than get raped.

Shani not surviving doesn't take away from the story though it adds to it not idealy but you're impling if she's killed off or raped the games a failure then? It's no longer a personal failure on Shani but a personal failure on the designer of the story?

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Shani not surviving doesn't take away from the story though it adds to it not idealy but you're impling if she's killed off or raped the games a failure then? It's no longer a personal failure on Shani but a personal failure on the designer of the story?

Imagine it wasn't her but the Mc, if he got anal raped wouldn't you consider that a fail state in a game like this?

 

[varage]

Yea im not changing no one's mind anyway but this game INCLUDES allot of things that people would hate to see i just hope he keeps that up aka Asha scene Aka sharing Ain with your best friend etc these things aren't ideal for most but they are still included and i just hope the designer keeps up with that.

 

[Canto Forte]

Anyne can make the most fnatastic movie/series/game/novel/story/idea.
When you splash it against the reality of gaming, reading, acting, feeling enjoyment, getting release out of it, they may all be failures to mankind and to everyone.

Shani not surviving doesn't take away from the story though it adds to it not idealy but you're impling if she's killed off or raped the games a failure then? It's no longer a personal failure on Shani but a personal failure on the designer of the story?

Imagine it wasn't her but the Mc, if he got anal raped wouldn't you consider that a fail state in a game like this?

A beautiful lady who is a horrible person will still be a hard sell for anything longer than a glance.

 

[JoeTheMC84]

Yea im not changing no one's mind anyway but this game INCLUDES allot of things that people would hate to see i just hope he keeps that up aka Asha scene Aka sharing Ain with your best friend etc these things aren't ideal for most but they are still included and i just hope the designer keeps up with that.

Yeah, but none of those are failures, none of those events happen without the input of the main character, none of those events happen because the character is weak and gets beaten. Like I asked, if it was the Male MC, not the secondary female MC would you consider it a positive outcome for him to be raped for the story? I doubt it, it is a failure in the story for that to happen.

If you really can't see the difference between the MC defeating an enemy in battle, Asha, and sharing someone with a good friend, Igor, and a main character being beaten and raped then idk what to say.

 

[varage]

Imagine it wasn't her but the Mc, if he got anal raped wouldn't you consider that a fail state in a game like this?

I can't think of a scenario where the MC would be raped but i suppose it could lead to a game over as the MC would kill that guy or be killed by that guy. And i suppose our new mc would be his daughter. The story would continue but i don't think anyone wants that. BUT this is all speculation all I want is the Developer to continue doing what hes been doing all game.
Letting people choose to do things that people dont like. Your treating shani rape/sex with others as if it's not a choice on the PLAYER of the game to choose wether it should happen. I want it to be a choice. Like the Queen scene. So, everyone who doesn't want to see this can choose to beat the fuck out of rapist or choose to not sleep with persons who saves/is saved by her.

This is all hypothertical anyway as i have no idea if any of this will even have humanoids in the zone at all it could be strictly monsters for all i know.

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Imagine it wasn't her but the Mc, if he got anal raped wouldn't you consider that a fail state in a game like this?

I kind of hope they add more training content with Shani at some point. Right now, I get the vibe of Rey from Star Wars where it feels like she goes 0 - 100 in 60 seconds in terms of being a bad ass Jedi.

 

[varage]

Yeah, but none of those are failures, none of those events happen without the input of the main character, none of those events happen because the character is weak and gets beaten. Like I asked, if it was the Male MC, not the secondary female MC would you consider it a positive outcome for him to be raped for the story? I doubt it, it is a failure in the story for that to happen.

If you really can't see the difference between the MC defeating an enemy in battle, Asha, and sharing someone with a good friend, Igor, and a main character being beaten and raped then idk what to say.

Yes thats my point i never once said this should happen me know better then writer of game. me hit rock with head. I have been advertiseing choice sense my first comment speaking of the queen's make out session. Though I have to say If the designer of this game kills off Shani in the zone. I would not consider this game a failure and I would continue playing.

I'd be upset yes but the game could stand without her.
But i'll concede yes if they anal raped the male protagonist and killed him off then yes the game would be over because i prolly wouldn't stick around to play the female the rest of the game but female protagonist aren't my cup of tea. Doesn't mean there no one's cup of tea.