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Yngling

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I believe what Yngling meant is, Shani and her interactions, engagements (or relationships) with other men, NOT SHARING meant Shani is exclusive to Zaton (MC) which means that Shani will not have any relationships with other men except for Zaton.
Exactly, that is my opinion. Although I am fine with Shani getting some lesbian action either within the harem or (at the choice of the player) outside of it. Other players may not be ok with that (due to weird Japanese three-letter acronym), but I do think that involving Shani in the action at home is pretty much unavoidable by now.

but that means Shani (as a character or main character) lost a bit (but a major part) of her individuality.
That is indeed also my struggle, but, as you say, at the moment Shani is infatuated with Zaton, so I guess it's fine...

My other concern though, is about the long term. If Shani inherits Zaton's House (not the building but the family), then she must at some point have children of her own. I suppose Zaton could be the father but I'm not sure how desireable that is. We talked about genetics enough already (and it's a porn game so who cares anyway?) but there is also the point of dynastic alliances among other major Houses.

Yeah, same here. I actually had Zaton not pursue Shani (and avoid Ain sexually as much as possible) partly because I'm not particularly into incest but mostly because I just enjoy role-playing loving dads who aren't into boning their children. If I remember right, I actually had to save scum to keep a sex scene with Ain from auto-triggering, but I was able to do it though there's some borderline stuff with her that didn't seem to be completely avoidable. My version of Zaton was one seriously proud papa when she expressed an interest in training recently!
I have to say I really respect that play style. Good job Sir!

Anyway, I would be completely fine with Shani finding someone to love; if it happens, hopefully it'll be someone dear old dad can respect. To be sure, I'd personally much prefer to see her end up with a fellow badass lady warrior than a harem of decayed gents, but at the end of the day you can't control your kids...or can you?!
Agreed with this as well. I do see potential for romance between the Queen and Shani, which would solve the dynastic alliance issue I talked about before. But there is the problem with having children.

Does the game lore already say something about how the dynastic inheritance of the Kingdom (Queendom?) is handled? Does the oldest daughter of the Queen automatically inherit?
 

BigDaddyDom

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I am secretly hoping tho... once she "officially" a desert walker and finished her training. She demands to be fucked by daddy.
This is it for me too...I'm all for any and all Shani content, whether that be her own route, spinoff etc., but hope she never loses her devotion to Daddy

I'm not particularly into incest but mostly because I just enjoy role-playing loving dads who aren't into boning their children.
What kind of a weirdo are you? :LOL:
 

FunFuntomes

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I am secretly hoping tho... once she "officially" a desert walker and finished her training. She demands to be fucked by daddy. As thats hopefully the distain and jealously shes held for her sister (even tho she kill anyone who harms her). Might not happen as it feels like the dev is trying ot make it not happen, but im going to keep hoping. Its a good enough time as any with reason. While I sitll consider the MC to be the main MC, as a side, I'd love to see her continue towards being an alpha bitch who kills, does and takes what she wants . Fuck up anyone from the influence imprinting of her daddy.
I think you hadn't finished the currently available content.
 

Kellermann

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potential for romance between the Queen and Shani
Wha?? The only thing Queen is getting from my household is put in her place. She can join her kidnapper friend in chains on the street. Shani can take over as regent of Zeta after we overthrow that uppity wench who is currently occupying our throne. Shani will be the start of my new imperial dynasty. Together we can rule the galaxy desert as father and daughter! Then Shani's upcoming daughter/sister can become empress-in-waiting. I am sorry Ain, I have other plans for you. :BootyTime:
 

FunFuntomes

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Wha?? The only thing Queen is getting from my household is put in her place. She can join her kidnapper friend in chains on the street. Shani can take over as regent of Zeta after we overthrow that uppity wench who is currently occupying our throne. Shani will be the start of my new imperial dynasty. Together we can rule the galaxy desert as father and daughter! Then Shani's upcoming daughter/sister can become empress-in-waiting. I am sorry Ain, I have other plans for you. :BootyTime:
why would Shani take away her sister's throne ? there was a line hinting that Meredith could be MC's daughter
 

Nulldev

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Wha?? The only thing Queen is getting from my household is put in her place. She can join her kidnapper friend in chains on the street. Shani can take over as regent of Zeta after we overthrow that uppity wench who is currently occupying our throne. Shani will be the start of my new imperial dynasty. Together we can rule the galaxy desert as father and daughter! Then Shani's upcoming daughter/sister can become empress-in-waiting. I am sorry Ain, I have other plans for you. :BootyTime:
Queen is way too fuckable to drop her on the streets :D
 
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i agree thats probably the one thing in this i havnt liked so far i like mantis so i wanted to go the route to get her but i really am not a fan of fang and would rather avoid her altogether
My thoughts exactly. Fang keeps butting in to everything. Even the queen had an option to not kiss the daughter. I get that people might like this kind of scenario with Fang so hopefully dev can just add an option for people who don't like Fang.
 
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goulet1995

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My thoughts exactly. Fang keeps butting in to everything. Even the queen had an option to not kiss the daughter. I get that people might like this kind of scenario with Fang so hopefully dev can just add an option for people who don't like Fang.
ya my guess is mantis i likely more of a side charactor so pronanly didnt want to make multiple variations still hope down the line we get an option to put fang in her place
 
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I think there is a lore/narrative reason why the bunker night scene with Mantis had to involve Fangs, actually it is the other way around Zaton (MC) is encouraged and 'allowed' to join the Fangs and Mantis hot night together. Fangs is the defacto leader of the Mutants faction, she is bisexual I think or not but she makes exception for Zaton (MC), she is known to be involved sexually with the females (Pepper at least). So, basically as the leader (alpha), Fangs had to be the first to unwrap the present while did not completely ignoring or forgetting about Zaton (MC). Zaton (MC) will have his one on one interactions with Mantis, Pepper, Ivy or others later on;).
 
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I think there is a lore/narrative reason why the bunker night scene with Mantis had to involve Fangs, actually it is the other way around Zaton (MC) is encouraged and 'allowed' to join the Fangs and Mantis hot night together. Fangs is the defacto leader of the Mutants faction, she is bisexual I think or not but she makes exception for Zaton (MC), she is known to be involved sexually with the females (Pepper at least). So, basically as the leader (alpha), Fangs had to be the first to unwrap the present while did not completely ignoring or forgetting about Zaton (MC). Zaton (MC) will have his one on one interactions with Mantis, Pepper, Ivy or others later on;).
Yes I hate it and it goes against the main idea of the game as power fantasy. I understand other people have different interpretation though. I'm sure some people also have same opinion as me and we will be happy if dev give option in the future to put her in her place or just execute her.
 

Evil Earthworm Jim

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I must admit Fangs attitude is a huge deal breaker for me. I've enjoyed playing this game! and I've tried as hard as I could to play the game my own way (as paragon as the game permits) whilst still reminding people that I'm top dog but I finally broke in the last scene with Fang. It got so bad for me that I finally gave up and decided to reload a earlier scene to have as little reason as possible to interact with her which sadly meant, Mantis had to go, I mean after all at least I can control that. To be honest, if I thought it would make a difference I would give up Ivy. I respect that this is just my solitary opinion and care not a jot if people agree/disagree but I have that freedom to express my opinion, I just wish I had something better to say. I'm not look to affect the creativity in the devs narrative, There are huge parts of this game that have just been amazing but with that said, I would like as much power of choice in dealing with Fang (without having to miss out and avoid that content entirely) as I have enjoyed in previous scenes.
 
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Francis Blast

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The story isn't the best but the girls are great. I need more of them in my life. Especially Ain, her scenes are way too short. Please.
 
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If I recall right there’s going to be an update this weekend? Anyone know if it’ll be Saturday or Sunday?
 

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I was going to stay out of the Fangs debate because I respect the freedom of the players to have their opinions and dislike her, but since I've been quoted, I'd like to express a couple of thoughts.
Nowhere in the definition of male power fantasy does it say that means he automatically gets to dick anything that moves and that everybody automatically submits to him at their first meeting. That would, in my opinion, be lazy writing. There are literally hundreds of games where the MC has a magic dick that every woman in the game goes to extreme lengths to get.
I like to think that we are writing characters that have their own, well, character... and that Zaton interacts with them in a somewhat credible way, in some cases through a progression.
Will Fangs eventually submit to Zaton? Will the Queen? I make no promises in either direction.
(I literally can't, Z is the one calling the shots, but I wouldn't anyway because spoilers)

That said, not every woman in the game, even if they do have sex with Zaton, has to have a submissive nature, for him to shoot his shot with them.
So far, Fangs in particular, treats him like a potential/valuable ally with whom she has fun on her own terms. Her sexuality is more dominant and physical, adrenaline playing a big role. She shares liberally of what are her own moments of intimacy, alone or with one of the women she has a thing going with.
Narratively speaking, for Zaton to jump into Mantis her bed out of the blue without a lead up, would have made little sense if not for the opening offered by Fangs.
Does that mean we are forcing Fangs on people? No, if you don't like the dynamic of their interactions you are still free to choose to sleep through it, even if it means you don't get to experience the threesome with her and Mantis, much like, if you don't like urination, you are free not to pee on Asha. The scene is more about Fangs than it is about Mantis anyway, at least in my mind.

FOMO is just not something we can account for in writing a scene, if we want to make characters that (to us) feel believable and different enough from one another.

I appreciate that this means not all players will like all characters and frankly, that's perfectly fine. There's about 20 female characters moving about in the game. If we can manage to have the average player like most of them, I'd say we're doing a pretty good job and I'm satisfied with that.
The fact that you might not get to boink each and every one of them on your terms should, in my opinion, not detract from the notion that in general terms the game is still a male power fantasy.
Nor can we expect that all players will like every declination of human interaction and sexy times we have in mind to portray. Sure, we could achieve that by finding a few interactions that work and just replicate those with different looking girls, but to me personally that's just boring (and it would limit the appeal of the game to only those that are into that specific combination of ingredients).
This site is full of games that do that already.

Does that mean that occasionally there will be scenes where some players won't be able to get their rocks off? Probably, but that's really not my concern.
Sure we're human and it's very possible that we just write a scene that is a miss, that falls flat narratively speaking, but we do make an effort to remain coherent with the characters, the story and the context in which sexy times happen.
 
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