Ren'Py Desert Stalker [v0.19.4] [Zetan]

[Kellermann]

I think you misunderstand what alpha male means.

It doesn't mean "take all the girls for myself".
It means being in full control of the situation, in the present but also in the future.

Therefore the scenes with Igor, I consider typical alpha male behaviour. By chosing to share his girls Zaton reinforces his alliance with Igor, who may prove a powerful ally in the future.

However, since Zaton is the alpha male, he does not need to share. He may just as well keep his girls for himself and respectfully add Katarczyna to his harem as a honourable second wife. This also strengthens his alliance with Igor. Like him marrying Zahra allied him with Omar.

So, both options can be correct.

However, forcefully taking Katarczyna to his harem as a "slave" (or in any other way without Igor's consent, which is not an option in the game) would weaken Zaton's position and is therefore not alpha male behaviour.

We have to remember: Zaton is not Attilla the Hun (yet), he's just an important officer under the Queen. He needs allies. And, coincidentally, Omar is a more important ally than Igor.

True, but a lot of people seem to want to turn the entire household into the Zeta bicycle just for funsies. At a certain point you can't really hide behind the facade of it being an "alpha male show of power and dominance" when you are whoring out your immediate family to anyone and everyone. I fall into the no sharing camp so granted I'm biased in one direction but even if you are pro share, not every acquaintance or person who happens to walk by is automatically worthy. Laws of Hospitality state that the status of a guest is to be considered. Igor is apparently regarded as an honoured guest because of his status within the city and his friendship with MC. Omar on the other hand is an outsider and a bit of a weakling.

That said I'm quite sure devs will eventually make the Omar option because a majority of the players apparently want it, but going by the rules of Zeta, he just doesn't seem worthy and deserving of that degree of "hospitality." At least not like Igor. Omar is lower on the hierarchal ladder, doesn't seem like a "close friend," and acts more like a beta anyway. But everything here is optional so people can just activate or ignore the content to their liking.

 

[punisher2099]

True, but a lot of people seem to want to turn the entire household into the Zeta bicycle just for funsies. At a certain point you can't really hide behind the facade of it being an "alpha male show of power and dominance" when you are whoring out your immediate family to anyone and everyone. I fall into the no sharing camp so granted I'm biased in one direction but even if you are pro share, not every acquaintance or person who happens to walk by is automatically worthy. Laws of Hospitality state that the status of a guest is to be considered. Igor is apparently regarded as an honoured guest because of his status within the city and his friendship with MC. Omar on the other hand is an outsider and a bit of a weakling.

That said I'm quite sure devs will eventually make the Omar option because a majority of the players apparently want it, but going by the rules of Zeta, he just doesn't seem worthy and deserving of that degree of "hospitality." At least not like Igor. Omar is lower on the hierarchal ladder, doesn't seem like a "close friend," and acts more like a beta anyway. But everything here is optional so people can just activate or ignore the content to their liking.

The mistake you're making is thinking the sharing crowd gives a shit about lore and rules and all that, they just want the girls to get fucked by anyone and everyone as often as possible.

 

[Kellermann]

The mistake you're making is thinking the sharing crowd gives a shit about lore and rules and all that, they just want the girls to get fucked by anyone and everyone as often as possible.

Yes a lot of people are hiding behind the Zeta rules when, as you say, they just want to see everyone get fucked.
No shame in that, but a little more honesty about it would be encouraging to see.

 

[SlapE]

Played it and I must say, was amazing. I played Hot Sand of Antarctica before this game, and I definitely get a somewhat similar vibe; however, the obvious difference is that this game is a sandbox and HSoA is fully VN. While I do prefer pure VN experiences, for a sandbox game this is still amazing.

The sandbox element in this game isn't some grind fest first off, which is a major plus, secondly it's very straightforward and not jarring at all. Most sandbox games start to lose direction and everything starts to become jarring and confusing, but luckily this game doesn't have that issue at all.

The characters in this game are top-notch, I mean seriously amazing cast of characters, almost none of them feel dull (the prominent characters at least) and all are interesting in one way or another. The renders are beautiful and the atmosphere/setting is great. I have almost nothing to complain about with this game, except that I ran out of content to play.

Looking forward to future updates and more time with the daughters especially.

 

[JohnF95zone]

The thing with Omar is that I feel he is really a good candidate to be dominated by Zahra. So, the 'sharing' part is not like Omar gets to fuck Zahra like the case with Igor but instead, Zahra dominate (and/or humiliate) Omar femdom BDSM-style (not sure exactly if BDSM getup is available in Desert Stalker universe or not but I hope most of you get the point). It seems like a fantasy that Omar would like considering his character.

But the question remains, do the dev team wants that type of contents and do the players want or like to see such contents? Does it even make sense in that universe in the first place? Personally, I don't know.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

The mistake you're making is thinking the sharing crowd gives a shit about lore and rules and all that, they just want the girls to get fucked by anyone and everyone as often as possible.

Please don't confuse the sharing crowd with the ntr crowd. The latter wants the girls to be humilated and fucked in the worst way possible, they crave the homeless guys, interracial, forced sex, gangbangs, stuff like that. The former is fine with strong narratives with hot group scenes. I'd argue the pure harem lover or pure ntr lover is a bigger threat to lore consistency than the middleground.

 

[Kellermann]

Played it and I must say, was amazing. I played Hot Sand of Antarctica before this game, and I definitely get a somewhat similar vibe; however, the obvious difference is that this game is a sandbox and HSoA is fully VN. While I do prefer pure VN experiences, for a sandbox game this is still amazing.

The sandbox element in this game isn't some grind fest first off, which is a major plus, secondly it's very straightforward and not jarring at all. Most sandbox games start to lose direction and everything starts to become jarring and confusing, but luckily this game doesn't have that issue at all.

The characters in this game are top-notch, I mean seriously amazing cast of characters, almost none of them feel dull (the prominent characters at least) and all are interesting in one way or another. The renders are beautiful and the atmosphere/setting is great.

Yes, HSoA similarities are striking. They were clearly fans of DS.
I am not normally a sandbox devotee, but it is done well here and as you say, no grind at all. I enjoy being able to wander around my villa and then return to VN mode for missions.

I have almost nothing to complain about with this game, except that I ran out of content to play.

Looking forward to future updates and more time with the daughters especially.

Same mate.

 

[Puma1978]

Does anyone know if the new version is already available on Patreon?
I would buy it and can see on patreon that new version will get released middle to end of january but in his progress reports only for supporters Dev is very good hiding the content.....

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Does anyone know if the new version is already available on Patreon?
I would buy it and can see on patreon that new version will get released middle to end of january but in his progress reports only for supporters Dev is very good hiding the content.....

I don't see anything posted for my tier (Legates), and no hidden posts, either. Haven't heard anything about beta testing, yet. Though, I don't think we're too far off based on the last dev update.

 

[Yngling]

True, but a lot of people seem to want to turn the entire household into the Zeta bicycle just for funsies.

Unfortunately....

At a certain point you can't really hide behind the facade of it being an "alpha male show of power and dominance" when you are whoring out your immediate family to anyone and everyone.

So far, the sharing was only with Igor. And like I said, for Zaton's position it shouldn't really matter if he does share or not. So I think you are grossly exaggerating here.

I fall into the no sharing camp so granted I'm biased in one direction but even if you are pro share, not every acquaintance or person who happens to walk by is automatically worthy. Laws of Hospitality state that the status of a guest is to be considered. Igor is apparently regarded as an honoured guest because of his status within the city and his friendship with MC. Omar on the other hand is an outsider and a bit of a weakling.

I disagree on your assessment of Omar. He appears, indeed as a weakling, but as a wealthy merchant he is probably more powerful than Igor and perhaps also more than Zaton.

But, perhaps, Omar's sexual preferences make him more of a cuck. That doesn't mean he is not powerful, it just means that he gets turned on by his wife / daughter getting fucked.

It seems that this is not extremely uncommon. I'm not a psychologist but perhaps having (too much?) power makes some people want to be submissive when they can do so without being exposed for it. Apparently there is a good number of CEO's who like to be subs and be dominated by some mistress every once in a while. It could be a nice research topic: find out if there is a correlation between somebody's wealth or income and whether he like NTR or harem games....

 

[cheesetriangles]

If you are going to defend a ridiculous position, you might want want to at least use the right words. Go back and edit, please. It's driving me crazy. Here:
We need more sharing content, it's time for sharing the wife and daughter with Omar.

Maybe he wants them shared with the entire country of Oman (population 4.52 million as of 2021)?

 

[Kellermann]

So far, the sharing was only with Igor. And like I said, for Zaton's position it shouldn't really matter if he does share or not. So I think you are grossly exaggerating here.

That was more a generalisation, not directed at any one poster. The recent influx of three letter people aside, I was earlier seeing several referencing the culture of Zeta and the Laws of Hospitality and using it to shield their more basic kink desire to just see some household cheeks clapped by another dude. Again no shame there, I just don't think that former assertion was entirely candid representation of their choices.

I disagree on your assessment of Omar. He appears, indeed as a weakling, but as a wealthy merchant he is probably more powerful than Igor and perhaps also more than Zaton.

Have to agree to disagree on Omar/Igor. The term "honoured guest" was directly applied to Igor, putting him on a higher level than Omar regardless of which pulls in more coin per week. Also you have the two characters' differing personalities. Igor seems much more like a 'might makes right' practitioner than Omar who is an out-of-towner who is still learning the ways of the Force Zetans. It is clear MC respects Igor much more than he does Omar. MC is likely Nadia's real father. That isn't something you secretly do to a person you respect.

But, perhaps, Omar's sexual preferences make him more of a cuck. That doesn't mean he is not powerful, it just means that he gets turned on by his wife / daughter getting fucked.

It seems that this is not extremely uncommon. I'm not a psychologist but perhaps having (too much?) power makes some people want to be submissive when they can do so without being exposed for it. Apparently there is a good number of CEO's who like to be subs and be dominated by some mistress every once in a while. It could be a nice research topic: find out if there is a correlation between somebody's wealth or income and whether he like NTR or harem games....

No idea about any of that. Not my area of study or interest at all. I just like seeing t&a and leave the sharing theory to the experts.
The main thing I do in this game (aside from really enjoying the story and setting) is act as evil as the devs will allow and have lewd time with as many of the ladies as possible. I fully admit that my MC don't follow the rules of Zeta. I am a bad citizen but sometimes you need Stalkers like that for the disgraceful jobs. Maybe that is what secretly arouses the Queen when my MC appear in her presence.

 

[muschi26]

MC is likely Nadia's real father.

Do you have any evidence for this? That sounds like speculation to me.

 

[the3m_dude]

hey everyone, sorry to interrupt i just wanted to say that i hope my man Omar can finally have the time of his life with Zahra

but on a more serious note, we all know Omar is dying to have sex with Zahra and he has not had a good sex for a long time so i think a scene where Zahra let Omar fuck her out of sympathy and Zahra actually enjoys her time with Omar would be pretty hot... just my opinion and of course it should be optional

 

[Kellermann]

Do you have any evidence for this? That sounds like speculation to me.

I don't have access to dig into the text rn, but wasn't it hinted at during the Nadia visit/interaction?

 

[Bloker997]

Do you have any evidence for this? That sounds like speculation to me.

Nadia herself said that Omas isnt her real father and we know who was banging Rabiah before. Of course there are no proof, but it's a possibility.

 

[punisher2099]

hey everyone, sorry to interrupt i just wanted to say that i hope my man Omar can finally have the time of his life with Zahra

but on a more serious note, we all know Omar is dying to have sex with Zahra and he has not had a good sex for a long time so i think a scene where Zahra let Omar fuck her out of sympathy and Zahra actually enjoys her time with Omar would be pretty hot... just my opinion and of course it should be optional

That's not Zahra's decision to make. It sounds like you want straight up ntr.

 

[Yngling]

Have to agree to disagree on Omar/Igor. The term "honoured guest" was directly applied to Igor, putting him on a higher level than Omar regardless of which pulls in more coin per week. Also you have the two characters' differing personalities. Igor seems much more like a 'might makes right' practitioner than Omar who is an out-of-towner who is still learning the ways of the Force Zetans. It is clear MC respects Igor much more than he does Omar. MC is likely Nadia's real father. That isn't something you secretly do to a person you respect.

I think that distinction ("honoured guest") could not be used for Omar because he is, in a way, family. Don't know, but I don't disagree with you here.

Regarding Nadia being Zaton's daughter: in a way I hope not, because in that case Zaton will have his job cut out for him while trying to get her back in line. She's way too slutty for my taste... (and also when compared to Shani and Ain). Nadia is hot as a casual fuck but not as a daughter. As a niece it's already borderline. In my opinion of course...

 

[Lurcher1]

The thing with Omar is that I feel he is really a good candidate to be dominated by Zahra. So, the 'sharing' part is not like Omar gets to fuck Zahra like the case with Igor but instead, Zahra dominate (and/or humiliate) Omar femdom BDSM-style (not sure exactly if BDSM getup is available in Desert Stalker universe or not but I hope most of you get the point). It seems like a fantasy that Omar would like considering his character.

Actually kind of hoping Ain has that option. I mean that if the MC is too lenient with her with the punishments, she starts to get a lot more bratty and demanding. Has ideas of positioning herself above Zahra as she has the MC wrapped round her finger. That way she can start dictating what she wants out her interactions

 

[KekWGgWP]

hey everyone, sorry to interrupt i just wanted to say that i hope my man Omar can finally have the time of his life with Zahra

but on a more serious note, we all know Omar is dying to have sex with Zahra and he has not had a good sex for a long time so i think a scene where Zahra let Omar fuck her out of sympathy and Zahra actually enjoys her time with Omar would be pretty hot... just my opinion and of course it should be optional

Bruh just because you care about fucking Omar doesn't mean everyone else does it too, but i guess it's your business.

Also everything related to NTR is optional anyway.